Summary
Canada is preparing to retaliate against Donald Trump’s proposed 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, which could trigger the largest trade war between the nations in decades.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised counter-tariffs worth $37 billion, with potential for further measures, depending on Trump’s final order.
Canadian officials warn the tariffs could harm both economies, disrupting key sectors like automotive, energy, and agriculture.
Labor leaders expressed concerns over job losses and urged collaboration. Canada hopes to avoid tariffs by highlighting their mutual economic impact to U.S. lawmakers.
Eggs are going to be so cheap bro.
Just one more oil boom, bro. We promise not to piss this one away. C’mon, don’t hit us with oil tariffs on our marginal product we can’t get to market. Don’t be a dick bro.
some car parts cross the border as parts en route to assembly plants, and then back again in fully-assembled vehicles.
Some cars cross the border 5 to 6 times while being assembled. Car prices are going to sky rocket.
Please Canada listen to your best and brightest
It’s a good thought but much less practical than retaliatory tariffs. I don’t think there is precedent (in recent times) of Western nations overtly violating each other’s intellectual property rights.
Well now seems like a very good time to set a precedent
This is pure genius. Hit them where it hurts the most while simultaneously benefiting consumers.
I don’t understand why this isn’t the first option when a treaty is violated? Whybwould Canada continue to enforce their side of a now nullified agreement? How does Canada benefit from this?
Good, Do it. Every country should do it. Make it fucking hurt.
I can’t wait to not be able to afford diapers since racist rednecks elected a clown. It’s like being held hostage on a train that’s headed for a brick wall. Trying to raise a family through this is so hard.
Repeated prisoners’ dilemma. They have to threaten and they have to add tariffs if the US does, anything else would be bad strategy
It’s not helped by the fact that Trump is corrupt and might have different winning conditions like “make Putin happy”, but that doesn’t change what Canada has to do.
Do it. Isolate this evil shithole until it collapses. Please do it.
The US needs to be broken up the way the USSR was.
Didn’t that also give us Putin?
I’d like them to focus on taking all the Americans who can contribute to the economy. I volunteer for tribute.
I’m currently up in Canada for an extended stay, it’s honestly so much nicer than back home. I’m gonna be sad to leave. I too gladly volunteer as tribute.
Edit: also everyone here has been so incredibly welcoming
You should probably wait until after Monday to come home. Maybe something catastrophic will happen and you’ll get stuck there. Oh noooo
Nice, what part of Canada?
Ontario :)
OooOoooO fancy
You should stay in Canada, at minimum, until Jan 2029.
I wish I could. The culture and city feel uncannily familiar, it’s a lot cleaner, and I made so many friends in my first few days here
Nice! I spent like one day in Vancouver and it blew my mind how CLEAN that big city was.
And also it was the first foreign country I had ever visited. I expected it to feel a lot…stranger? But nah. It felt like home. Just with occasional maple leaf flags instead of 1000 Stars and Stripes flying off every building lol.
People were super nice, too.
I got the vibe I could never afford to live there in a million years. Lol
The problem is Canada doesn’t want a bunch of Americans.
We don’t want their guns, the litigiousness, the exceptionalism and the arrogance, but other than that, we actually love Americans.
Tell me about it. Buddy of mine married an American, a texan, she’s fairly liberal as far as they go…
She just had a baby and was granted 18 months maternity leave, didn’t pay a dime, had an in home nurse due to complications. All for free.
We just talked about how she would prefer to have to pay her employer for health insurance rather than “Lose so much to these crazy taxes.”
If a liberal minded, young person thinks like this, how many of them think like this? Stay to the south. Please.
Nothing is for free, taxation pays for the medical care.
Significantly less so when you don’t have to worry about copays, premiums and other services.
Civilised countries ask everyone to chip in and take care of one another. Your kid’s booboo tomorrow and your neighbours cancer the next. All taken care of because we can. No medical poverty.
The weirdest thing is that their thinking is so short-term. Like it didn’t occur to her that those “crazy taxes” would also cover someone else’s maternity process?
Texans seem to think they’re top of the world and unstoppable “without those pesky taxes” until some family-illness or accident shows up and threatens to bankrupt them overnight.
It’s all very short sighted and to be honest I can’t blame them for their brainwashing most of the time.
They hear if places with 30, 40, 50% tax rates and are appalled but they don’t realize that the combined income of a nation can more than subsidise education, healthcare and so much more while still affording an amazing quality of life.
They call Europeans poor because they don’t own 50 acres and a McMansion with 3 mud crawlers in the garage.
My buddy’s wife just doesn’t understand how far out tax money goes and thinks our government is just as corrupt as hers.
Like it didn’t occur to her that those “crazy taxes” would also cover someone else’s maternity process
It occurs to them fine. They don’t care. American attitude is “fuck you, I’ve got mine.”
Kind of. Some of my best friends and all that… lots of fabulous expats in my little exurban community. Usually great people with american cultural baggage that encourages a kind of heroic individualism that is no big deal until you’re organizing in a group or the like. Not smug, more… socially entitled? It grates on local sensibilities sometimes, and it’s hard to explain unless you apply an analysis of colonialism. We recognize the colonizers more than the other way around.
Are any of these lovable Americans in the room with us now?
I’ve some of them in my family and my friend circles, so, yes sure.
I dunno I’d like to think we’d get along. :) (wave)
But but, I have good job, no guns, no criminal record, aaaaaannnnndddddd I like hockey. So, maybe? Like a trial basis? 😅
Hmmm…are you from Michigan? Minnesota?
I will be from wherever you want me to be.
(whispers) “Go Knights, go!”
“Trump is more respected by other nations than Biden” part deux dipshit boogaloo
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Not homophobia. Just a observation that people who are extremely vocal and violent against the gay are usually in the closet. See j edgar hoover.
And like every hardcore anti gay religious leader too
It seems to be a halmark of denial and deception.
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I’m not but you are. I’m tired of having to worry about the feelings of everyone around me when Its clear the right and left are both hell bent on getting offended about something. Don’t tell me what I meant because it triggers you. Goodbye.
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What else would you call a relationship where 2 men love each other so much they share a bed?
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Watching the US dollar
Grabs popcorn
Watching the already shit Canadian dollar…
looks up best noose rope
rope prices too high
Just in case…
Nah it’s joke.
I hope I live long enough to see the petrodollar die.
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*was a world currency
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Well yea, the clowns aren’t in charge yet. It won’t survive defaulting on our debt and systematically alienating all our allies.
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That still doesn’t mean that what Trump is doing isn’t a dumb mistake
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The Orange Numbnuts will turn the USD into the worthless Ruble.
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My bad, I did not read your “edit” and I changed my response. All is good, carry on.
Gold, local currency, you dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out.
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Comical.
groceries
Maybe for Americans where groceries are highly highly processed let alone majority imported.
Grabs locally grown whole foods including popcorn and gets healthier
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Better start prepping then so you don’t starve
You’ll think back at this moment when you’ve got a full stomach.
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…it’s an economic depression! hope you’re ready for your grocery bill to quadruple.
complete economic meltdown.
Aw man I seem to vaguely remember a short time when this wasn’t happening ever since I’ve been of working age, but it already feels so distant now…
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I think you’re taking it too lightly.
Sorry, there was no way I could find to phrase that without it reading sarcastically but sincerely, I wasn’t trying to downplay your insights!
I was being mildly sarcastic, but also totally serious, in that the birthright of Millenials and onward has been on the “and find out” end of eroding social safety nets and a generally declining civilization.
The idea of living in peace without constantly playing the “weather the next socioeconomic crisis” roguelike dice game is basically a foreign concept at this point. (To anybody who must work for a living.)
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“Oh wow, what a major recession! The worldwide economy sucks! There’s no jobs! Groceries are expensive! Bosses are kings! Wages are frozen!” (Which year, amirite?)
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“Wow these natural disasters are crazy! Look, the water catches fire! Woah, everyone’s full of plastic!”
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Hey that thing there was a steady supply of? Everybody’s freaking out and ready to fight over it.(Jobs, toilet paper, gasoline, twinkies, silicon, whatever.)
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“Hey everything was alright for a while! Workers are winning raises and sick days! But corpos complain and fire everybody to make line go up. Unemployment at record highs again. Here’s 42 ways to suck up to your boss and beg to keep your income.”
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“Haha wow we were SURE that plague was extinct.”
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"Rents skyrocketing. Nobody’s having children. People who want them are increasingly infertile. People who don’t, make it an entire political identity.
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(Insert the entirety of 2020-onward here)
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Everything is hyper competitive and a requires luck. The lucky want to tell you it’s all about Just Working Harder and “everything is actually better than it’s ever been!”
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Hey remember when the whole world went to war against fascists? Ha they’re seen as legitimate again because they’ve got memes now.
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I agree with you, it’s like watching the fall of the Soviet Union, except instead of The Party chanting “everything is fine keep working”, it’s mainly private interests. And nobody’s learned anything.
I’m trying to keep my head up lol…
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LOL, gold… What year is it? If someone tried to give me gold for food in a global meltdown situation, I would tell them to fuck off.
Cool story, we are talking international currencies, Read the thread before looking like a fool
Have you traveled much?
As an American, I want the world to punish us for our bullshit.
That was my reaction exactly. “Good. Fuck us.”
Same
As an American, I really want to get the fuck out of here.
As a non-american, you’re doing about okay as everyone else.
For real. There is no escape unless you got a passport to a Scandinavian country. And then, it’s temporary. American nonsense is pervasive, it comes for everyone!
I’d say it’s time to leave the planet but I’m not a billionaire so… fuck me I guess.
as an american - yall need some laws against tech bullshit if you want to stop this
Do get out. I’m an Italian living in the UK and while no country is perfect, any first-world country is better than the US right now to live in. I can’t fathom the idea of dying for a miscarriage, or being forced to have a pregnancy I don’t want, or having my kids go through regular mass-shooting drills and actual mass shootings, or having to ration insulin, or going bankrupt for a cancer, or being shot by a neighbour, or having trials based on theatrics rather than law, or having for-profit prisons and for-profit hospitals, or not trusting our cops, or religious zealots making religion-based laws for everyone, or not having social services, sock leave, maternity and paternity leave, and so on and so on. Honestly our very imperfect countries are a social paradise compared to the USA.
Take it all please, leave the rest of us able to fix what needs fixing.
Spank us, daddy! We’ve been so naughty…
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As another American, most of us want you to leave.
We have no choice-- we must give California to Canada to assuage their anger. A tariff war would be bad for business. Its a shame its come to this, but jobs might be at stake here.
While I love the idea, they’d never go for it. It would double their population instantly and completely upend their political system.
Well okay fine, just SoCal then!
…damn, your point still stands. ._.
Make smuggling contraband across the great lakes great again.
god imagine how much worse the gang violence will get when the canuck mafia starts mowing down border patrol agents.
Canadian Mafioso: “sorry” machine gun noises, screams
Trump doesn’t understand that tarrifs go both ways.
It’s kind of amazing that his first priorty upon entering office is getting revenge and starting wars. What an incredible person and even more than that, an incredible leader. Amazing.
He doesn’t care if Americans get hurt or suffer his batshit policies. His moronic base will support him even if they’re suffering; they’ll blame it on the brown people.
I’ve said this before, the EU should just invite Canada into the Union.
Nice idea, but it’s not a good thing to distance yourself from your closest trading partner…just ask the U.K.
I’m.not saying Canada has to take the offer, just that it’s something that should be on the table for trump to chew on.
I see your stance now. Down with that mate.
I dream of this outcome. We’re more politically compatible with Western Europe than we are to the US.
Obligatory “Well, except Alberta” which you can literally derail any good idea with.
The Canadians can take the Blue States with them to the EU.
I’m not too sure they’d be such a great fit for the EU, culturally and socially. That sounds like we’d be taking in a Trojan horse.
Canada would have to switch to European standards instead of US ones. Their companies wouldn’t be happy.
How do Canadian companies like tariffs? Just saying, it’s not impossible…
