If Leon buys Intel, then I will switch permanently to AMD or the loser is playing with the market.
switch permanently to AMD
So glad I switched to AM5 on my last main gaming rig rebuild last year lol
That’s a silly reason to pick a piece of tech IMO. I buy exclusively AMD because they offer great value, especially since they support their sockets for a long time. For their GPUs, they have fantastic drivers on Linux.
I honestly don’t care who owns them, I care that the quality is good for the price. I don’t find that to be true for Tesla, so I don’t own one. If he buys Intel, that won’t change my opinion of their products, I’ll still avoid them because he value isn’t there.
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I was about to get extremely upset, and then I remembered I haven’t used intel since 2012.
This is still extremely bad for the industry, regardless of whether you personally use it.
Meh. Maybe it will accelerate us to open hardware.
I have a 13700K that’s growing increasingly unstable due to their fuckup on voltage control. Never again. My next rebuild will be AMD.
havent built a new PC since 2019 but when I did, I specifically picked AMD because of the Specter problem that existed at the time. havent looked back since.
oh, I agree.
Does that include Wi-Fi or cellular modems or any of the other shit they make, or just x86 CPUs?
Please buy intel, its trash anyway. Musk is perfect fit since intel has been constantly fixing and bribing things to appear better than it is.
The modern Vanderbilt
As if Intel doesn’t have enough problems. That dipshit buying them would probably destroy them.
I worked at intel for a while. It deserves to be destroyed. But I live in an area with a lot of well off intel employees. It could tank my house value among other major impacts to the community. Like I am sure he would kill the matching donation stuff which would be a significant reduction of the amount of money non profits get in this area. So I hope the destruction is slow enough for other chip companies in the area to absord some of the workers.
It deserves to be destroyed.
I know we all hate our jobs but there has to be a story behind this…
Intel took their stapler.
I work with some Intel folks… The place just seems terribly mismanaged and the tech world would probably benefit if the technical folks would work elsewhere.
Eh, that’s just most large tech companies.
No no, it would work out,
You got to pay a subscription so your CPU doesn’t burn any transistors every month.
/s
He’s going to rename the i series to something ridiculous like i69, i420, i1337, and iX isn’t he?
The new Incel X series
That would be good news for AMD
I’m the short term it will be good for AMD, in the long term they will lose the need to invest in research and development, start cutting corners and up prices for sub par chips. Bad news for consumers.
I appreciate him doing this after intel lost their magic, otherwise, it would have been much harder emotionally.
They lost it in CPUs, but I think they’re actually nailing it in GPUs though (for once(at least for the budget/entry level))
Eh unless they have the most efficient overall, they won’t make inroads into the server market. The entry level laptop and desktop markets are getting smaller and has less margins.
Any source you can cite?
Do you mean the efficiency question? I’m just deducing if they were competitive in servers Intel would jump at that opportunity.
As for the PC market, just looking at unit sales: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_computer_vendors
And as for margins, well the exact information is a bit hard to find but in general lower end products have tighter margins and the buyers for them are more price sensitive.
Oh sorry, yeah that was directed towards the comment that the desktop market is getting smaller. I’ve heard that “the desktop computer is dead” for over two decades now, so that wiki page is quite interesting.
I’d love to see the 2024 number once it gets published, because the 2020/1 numbers are such an anomalies from COVID that it’s hard to tell if the market’s actually shrinking or just stabilizing.
It likely will stabilize, but it might become more of an enthusiast market. People don’t necessarily need a PC anymore.
They have what, 2 models? And in the GPU market, they aren’t even a pimple on the fly on the ass of nVidia or AMD
I’ve personally seen on at least 5 different Intel models on store shelves. The A380, A580 and the A750. Now the B580 and B570. The A380 stuck around but the others sold out fast from what I saw.
And though they aren’t nearly as large as the two giants, they seem to be aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market. Though I wish they’d publish more official numbers. A 6 day slice from a retailer isn’t a great view on trends.
aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market.
It’s already served by iGPUs and used dGPUs.
I shudder to think of the poor soul that is so clueless and not-actually-frugal that they look at their needs and say an intel dGPU is the best choice.
budget/entry level
Shit nobody cares about because we have iGPUs for that purpose.
iGPUs suck ass, better than they’ve been in the past, but for gaming they’re still just what you use while you wait to get a dGPU
iGPUs do not “suck ass.” They’re built for purpose and fulfill that purpose quite well.
If you’re gaming, you’re better off buying a used dGPU made by AMD or Nvidia than a new GPU made by intel. I legitimately pity the fool who is buying an intel dGPU for gaming over used or new options from the other two.
But hey, I guess people like you need to feel different somehow so that’s what the market is there for.
With handheld PCs’ resurgence, iGPUs are getting recognition. With my handheld PC, I can easily play most PC games, barring the latest AAA games, on it. It has basically transformed the way I play video games, and it is powered by a 12 CU RDNA 3 iGPU. I was blown away when it could play 2010s games at ultra settings, 1080p, 60 fps with just a 10-watt configured TDP.
Especially the latest Ryzen HX395. It’s an APU with a 40 CU RDNA iGPU. I think the current development is going on that direction.
For handhelds, a 720p resolution is very adequate, but not for a 27" Monitor
Issue is, Intel controls the x86 architecture which is in almost all desktop PCs…
Look at the way Tesla collects and treats customer data, and the way Musk seems to unilaterally abuse his control over the companies he owns for personal reasons.
Now think about the capabilities of the Intel Management Engine that pretty much every Intel CPU requires.
Bad vibes, I say.
For those feeling out of the loop, see here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
Tldr - it’s a little always on processor, running a Minix OS, with direct access to all board devices including the Ethernet Controller.
AMD has something similar in form of their Platform Security Processor.
Everyone is focusing on Musk but uh, Global Foundries wants to be involved in buying Intel?
The same Global Foundries that’s utterly incapable of progressing their tech stack?
The one AMD created when they got rid of their foundries and was happy to do so?
That amuses the shit out of me.
AMD wasn’t quite “happy” to sell their fabs, it was necessitated because they were facing bankruptcy. People forget but the prevailing opinion was that AMD was going to bankrupt within a few years.
Their pre-Su CEO, Rory Read, often gets shit online for being there during a bad period, but he made some difficult and necessary decisions that saved AMD. Part of that was the GF selloff.
I highly doubt Global Foundries is even in the position to buy Intel, they’d most likely want to give them a cash infusion in exchange for tech or for selling fabs (which intel would probably accept, since their fabs are currently under-utilised… in other words they have too much capacity, and yet are still building more because Chips Act says they have to). That would be good for GF.
Fuck. I’m just waiting for Haro Seldon to show up now.
Lmfao oh man because AMD wasn’t encroaching enough on intels market share, make your brand even more political than it already is. Hitching their trailer to a beneficiary of apartheid is notoriously on brand for them though, so there’s that.
Holy fuck no thank you
This rumor sounds like a crypto pump and dump.
Please buy Intel stock so we can sell ours!!
Mixed feelings about this as someone with a relatively (per my portfolio) huge investment in Intel. It would result, eventually, in the end of Intel. But so many dumb people with so much money keep throwing money at his crap companies so it might work out in the short term to get out with a profit.
If he buys intel surely he is buying your investment in intel to do so?
Youre going to short it?
Reads more like the investment tanked and he’s hoping for a recovery.
Shorting sounds nice though, long term.
I think the point is the stock would actually go up if Musk buys it because people think he’s a great businessman, despite all the evidence to the country. So no need to short it, just sell at the peak and duck out before he manages to crash and burn. Again.
Alternatively it could go up and up, Tesla style, as confusing as that is…
I only have a very passing interest in the stock market and that’s only because I have my pension as relatively high risk stock (it’s not really that high of a risk, that’s just what they call it).
But in the world with Apple, Google and and the traditional big car manufacturers, why on Earth when anyone invest in Tesla?
I agree. I keep hearing how terrible their cars are and we all know how much of a loon he is…surely anyone with any business sense would stay well away from that company, or companies affiliated with Musk? But what do I know…
On the social media front Elon literally knows nothing, but it’s impossible to deny that he hasn’t helped build 2 companies that know how to manufacturer complex hardware at scale. To deny that just shows ignorance.
So while Intel has so many problems, and there’s the whole politics disaster side of things, he might not actually cause the end of Intel from a hardware perspective.
I don’t know that he has helped build anything. He has helped hype 2 companies.
He did great PR when someone was managing him, but recently his PR is poison.
SpaceX is managed by someone competent, musk has - quite frankly - little to do with the company.
Tesla is riding the hype from before musk took off the mask. I give them 4 years, tops. If it’s not already on the way down.Intel needs to be run and managed by engineers. That’s what we want from core components. Not hype, not bubbles, not marketing speak, not fancy names and confusing part numbers. We want actual engineers who have thought through the implications of their decisions all the way to the end consumer. We want hardware that works and is predictable.
Tom Mueller the person who was at SpaceX at the start would wholly disagree with you and says so online, as have other people, but instead people just say they are saving face and rely on anonymous sources to say he does jack all.
So like I said, ignorance.
It’s blissful sure, but it’s ignorance.
Edit: there are plenty of reasons to hate and dunk on the dude, but people love to enhance it with stuff like he doesn’t and never did do anything to make their hate seem even more worthy. All it does though is make you look ignorant.
