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Circlejerk ragebait thread.
Yes
I’m mad, but for the wrong reason. I’m mad we haven’t invested enough in research for cures to other things.
AIDS treatment has changed a lot though. It’s not the wasting death sentence it used to be.
Cancer is a trickier beast, because it’s so essential to what we are. Very closely tied to aging. But cancer treatment has changed a lot too. There are actually some cancers which are highly treatable and in some cases eliminated with a single shot. Look up Rituxan.
Yeah there are living people who contracted aids in the 80s. Like it’s kinda night and day culturally and you can get whiplash reading accounts of the time. Huge name powerful people were completely helpless and then suddenly it was an unpleasant treatment but you’d live. And now we have prep and pep. Literally there’s plan b for hiv available in every emergency room in the developed world
With all those miracles, it galls me that some people are still down on medicine because there isn’t a simple one-shot “cure.” It’s like the small pox vaccine made people think that until someone is a one-shot deal, science has failed.
I’m also mad that we, apparently, haven’t invested enough in education.
https://www.hiv.gov/blog/encouraging-first-in-human-results-for-a-promising-hiv-vaccine/
An HIV vaccine is in human trials
oh sure another possible hiv vaccine that certainly wont be forgotten in a month
The point is that some viruses are harder to pin down than others.
Well that’s a good news I like seeing in these sea of sad news.
There’s a cervical cancer vaccine
Technically there’s a vaccine for HPV, which has been shown to be one of the leading causes of cervical cancer. However, it is believed that at least 80% of women will have HPV sometime in their life and the cervical cancer rate is no where near that. Thus the vaccine only decreases the risk, it is not a vaccine for cervical cancer though.
By that standard the COVID vaccine isn’t a vaccine either.
People really like to throw their opinions at everyone else even if they don’t understand anything on the subject. I remember seeing a post on Facebook saying something along the lines of:
a virus that dies with soap and water and they haven’t found a cure yet?
AiDS destroys the immune system, you CAN’T make a vaccine for it.
There are some experimental cures that do seem to work at least in rats. But yeah there’s no vaccine you just have to get sick and then get the cure and hope it works.
And also be a rat.
Once destroyed definitely… But couldn’t a vaccine prevent it from getting to that point?
That would be an HIV Vaccine
That’s just pedantic
It’s more like saying “I miiiiiight be able to cure cancer, that’s a bit tough and would require a lot of luck… I definitely can’t cure death though.”
Well, some vaccines are therapeutic in nature, where it’s beneficial to take it while you have symptoms. Some vaccines are only helpful before you get a symptom, for example rabies.
I guess the above made it sound like there definitely can’t be a therapeutic vaccine. But unclear about a preventative vaccine.
Their point is AIDS is the syndrome you get after it is too late and your immune system no longer works. The vaccine would be for Human Immunodeficiency Virus
Oh gotcha
HIV also rapidly mutates
“Things I don’t understand make me scared!”
This goes with being mRNA free that some anti-vaccine people tout around. They did their research well enough not to figure out what mRNA is.
Hahahahaha
I remember when the anti GMO, anti pharma, anti vaxx nuts were the fringe of the fringe left and now they’re mainstream conservatism sigh
Let’s not get it twisted, you grouped all those like it’s the same. I believe in science and vaccines, but fuck big pharma with a rust pole.
It’s the woo to Q pipeline.
This actually gets me thinking… Is anyone actually working on an aids vaccine? Maybe mRNA could do something there, theoretically it should be able to grant pretty much any type of immunity you can have naturally
They are, but every time they get close to a cure god sends a hurricane to destroy the lab and kill all the atheists inside it
Stop building the labs on the Gulf of Mexico?
Yes, they are working diligently to ID an effective mRNA vaccine, but the same barriers exist as before. First, HIV mutates rapidly, meaning it easily escapes immunity and evades vaccines. Second, as a retrovirus, it integrates its DNA into a person’s own cellular DNA, so even if your immune system destroys the virus, the DNA remains undetectable to the immune system and able to manufacture new virus at will.
(Responding to the picture here) As for cancer, it’s not a virus or bacteria, which is what vaccines have typically worked against. Cancer is your immune system failing to kill a cell from your own body that has mutated to grow out of control. They’re rapidly developing mRNA techniques for cancer, too.
COVID was a fucking walk in the park immunologically compared to cancer and HIV
I wish we could add friends on lemmy cause I like the cut of your jib
Yeah, retroviruses are a hard nut to crack. Either you try to target the virus and leave the cells alone, which is the hard route, or you target the specific DNA sequence of the virus, which forces the body to start murdering itself.
There have been recent breakthroughs in that area along this exact line of thought, actually.
PreP is a really effective tool for now while research continues. Your chances of getting HIV while taking the medication correctly reduces your chances to a very very small percentage. Of course, nothing is perfect, but it’s been great for the gay amab community.
No overcooked chicken vaccine, no falling down stairs vaccine, but sure vaccines are real.
Other than tasting bad and being dry, what’s harmful about overcooked chicken?
It can be pretty hot depending on when it was cooked
Both my parents didn’t want the vaccine because they were scared of side effects. Both of them have multiple chronic diseases . My dad lungs are basically dead from chaine smoking for 50+ years. They miraculously survived getting coronavirus twice…
But chain smoking for 50 years was perfectly acceptable.
He did have a very difficult childhood and he was so addicted he basically constantly smoked and i mean almost every second of his waking life . If you think cigarettes aren’t that addictive think again. He had like 4 to 5 packs (20 cigarettes each ) daily.
That’s terrible, poor guy :0(
Did they get the vaccine then?
No.
Thank god cigarettes don’t have side effects 🙏
Getting it twice and making it probably just proved to them that the whole vaccine thing was stupid and not required, right?
No. Thankfully, my parents aren’t anti-vaxers just watched too much of Facebook ‘doctors’. Real doctors that were spewing garbage online to get views and ‘get famous’ as said by someone that was arrested by the police.
Yup. I had a few people say “It’s no big deal, I had it and it was just a bad cold! It’s totally been blown out of proportion by the media!”
I also went to a funeral for someone who got it at church.
I like the suggestion that cancer only existed for 100 years
I’m trying to find a reason for it, but I know it’s just stupidity.
The first innoculation was in 1796. The first lab manufactured vaccine in 1872.
Maybe they’re stuck in mental childhood and learned vaccines were a century old in the seventies!
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These clueless twats think they are very smart.
So many fucking dumbasses in this world. Fucking smh. Fucking pieces of shit.
