I’ve been using it for a while because I like the forward and back arrows at the bottom and Firefox on Android was doing some weird stuff (freezing up and whatnot) at one point.

We’ve decided you’re only allowed to use Lynx from now on.

I think vivaldi is respectful of the users privacy, and they are very transparent. If privacy is important to you, they have a number of settings which can be toggled to make it more private and secure: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/privacy-settings/

The rendering engine is chromium, and that’s a deal breaker for some people. If you don’t care about that, then I think it probably ranks right up there with Firefox.

You can use any browser you want, just be aware of what the downsides are when you do.

The issue with Chrome and Chromium based broswers is the power that Google exerts over the internet via the Blink engine. Although other companies use the same technology, Google controls it and shapes it for it’s own commerical gains.

The other big alternative is also proprietary with Apple’s Sarfari and WebKit ecosystem.

Vivaldi is a nice browser but it is still run by a private company and it still monetises you to an extent. In vivaldi’s case it is currently fairly inocuous - they have referral deals with search engines for the default search, and deals with companies for default bookmarks. But it seems to be currently a more trustworthy browser. Ultimately though, it is part of the Blink ecosystem and supports Google’s increasing domination of the browser engine space.

Mozilla and Firefox remains the only truly independent browser, run in a not-for-profit and fully open source way, on the Gecko engine. It’s existance helps maintain the neutral aspects of the Web - instead of sites being designed for one browser, it encourages web site and services to be truly standards compliant. Firefox monetise users in a similar way to Vivaldi but that money is used to actually maintain and develop Gecko and other Mozilla technologies, while Vivaldi use that money to maintain Vivaldi the company - they don’t need to fund most of Blink as it’s made available by Google.

But no one is obliged to support Firefox or open technologies. It’s a personal choice what browser you use and there are many valid reasons beyond open standards to chose a browser. I use Firefox for multiple reasons; I genuinely like it and am used to it, but I actually also use Vivaldi and even Chrome on occasions (sometimes to view crapily designed ad heavy or tracking sites without having to disable lots of privacy extensions etc in firefox to make it work; I use Chrome as a bog standard sandbox when I want to dump crap sites out of my main browser but still want to quickly view it for whatever reason).

Pick a browser you like and don’t feel guilty if that happens to be chrome based.

It’s all Chromium, the same browser.

Vivaldi’s pretty good feature-wise. It’s got tab workspaces and stacking, detailed themes, mouse gestures, menu customisations, tab tiling, it’s basically where a lot of the Firefox power-users have gone. It’s a solid browser. That being said, a lot of the Firefox fanboyism is prevalent here so you’re going to piss a few people off if you suggest anything that’s based on Chromium.

That being said, I’ve also gotta shill Pulse. I don’t like the way Mozilla is running Firefox so I’m steering away from that, luckily Pulse is a Firefox fork. Native vertical tabs that don’t need an extension that Mozilla can break at any time, as well as a minimalist UI makes it a very clean looking browser to use, and with Simple Tab Groups, the only extension I’ve installed for extra functionality, I’ve basically got my Vivaldi replacement. If Mozilla breaks STG I’m moving my ass back to Vivaldi. edit test

Vivaldi’s pretty good feature-wise. It’s got tab workspaces and stacking, detailed themes, mouse gestures, menu customisations, tab tiling, it’s basically where a lot of the Firefox power-users have gone. It’s a solid browser. That being said, a lot of the Firefox fanboyism is prevalent here so you’re going to make a few people angry if you suggest anything that’s based on Chromium. Just use whatever you see fit - I personally don’t care too much about open-source vs. proprietary, I use Steam for crying out loud.

That being said, I’ve also gotta shill Pulse. I don’t like the way Mozilla is running Firefox so I’m steering away from that, luckily Pulse is forked from Firefox. I’m concerned about Mozilla treating userChrome.css as a legacy feature, so having native vertical tabs is great, and a generally minimalist UI makes it a very clean looking browser to use. With Simple Tab Groups, the only extension I’ve installed for extra functionality with the browser itself, I’ve basically got my Vivaldi replacement, though If Mozilla breaks STG I’m moving my ass back to Vivaldi.

I personally love Vivaldi. It’s really been the only browser for me that’s met everything I wanted. Customizable, looks good. And has a whole synchronization suite as well.

I honestly just don’t want to use Firefox at this point because I’m sick of Mozilla and their bad financial records (in 2021, the CEO gave themselves a 5 million bonus. And a good majority of their money still comes from Google), and the fact that they’ve kind of shifted their priorities away from Firefox in favor of more political activism activities. Which is annoying because Firefox is still the only other browser that has everything I need.

Yeah I do wish Vivaldi was fully open source but they’ve already mentioned that a lot of their stuff is besides their UI (which they’re keeping private for branding reasons). I think Its kind of ridiculous, but it’s not that big of a deal I guess since right now Vivaldi is just Chromium with an extra coat of paint.

Brave is a good option. Vivaldi is closed source, so if your all about FOSS, then Vivaldi is not an option.

It’s about the rendering engines, not the browser, really. More is better.

I used it for a while and there I had to quit. It’s just too buggy and instead of fixing the bugs in the updates they change your speed dial to include ads. It’s fucking annoying and shows the devs are out of touch. The most egregious thing is when it just straight up deleted all my workspaces.

i was using librewolf, but it kept freezing.
going back to “ungoogled chromium” however illegal it is.
is vivaldi better?

i remeber trying it a few years ago and didn’t do well

GNU Lynx is the only acceptable browser

• sent from Firefox on Android

Vivaldi is now my main browser. Sync works great. The sidebar is awesome.

Ignore the fanbois here. Vivaldi is solid. I will ditch it like an old sock if they end up having to adopt the new standards Google is pushing though. I’m confident Vivaldi will fight doing so until bitter end. I hope they are even willing to switch engines if needbe.