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What a loser.
I totally understand people who use cheat engine or similar to break games and to have fun seeing what they can do. Skipping content. Whatever.
But those that cheat to be able to boast… pathetic.
And then he’s like “well, everyone’s doing it.” 🙄
In a single player game, yeh.
Cheating in a game that impacts other people is trashHonestly, one of the big reasons multiplayer sucks now is because of cheaters. You wanna cheat in a single-player game? I couldn’t give less of a shit. But giving yourself an unfair advantage while playing against other people is pathetic and ruins the game for everyone…
Yup. For me it is Lethal Company. While we run from tbe monsters in fear for our lives they have god mode, etc. Which simply ruins the cooperative aspect and just the entire game for everyone involved. Why even play? I guess they enjoy seeing people reaxt to their hacks but I dont give them anything, simply quit immediately as soon as I find out.
I totally agree.
I agree so much, that I’m always upset when I see comments on a post about anti-cheat software that only focus on the downsides of needing it. They never acknowledge the need.
The benefit of an anticheat can be replaced by an old-fashioned kick vote system. The downside of an anticheat is that I’d need to install Windows and a rootkit on my computer to play some games. Not a problem till a younger relative is over and you have to explain how your gaming PC won’t run Fortnite or GTA Online for security and ideology reasons.
Yeah, I honestly like manually kicking cheaters! However, it is not enough on its own. It doesn’t help when BOTS join the game in hordes and outnumber the human players enough to make themselves impossible to kick…
That is, I would prefer even bots to a kernel-level resteictive anticheat.
Passworded rooms then! Even in games where you play on a centralized server, it’s sometimew possible to have passworded matches. GunZ online comes to mind. I think that game had passworded mqtches. TBF that game had anticheat too, but it never really worked properly. Client side anticheat doesn’t work because someone will always bypass it somehow, and then the server doesn’t know that funny things are happening. And server side anti cheat is going to decrease server performance because you have to track more things in the server and trust the clients less.
Depends on the game. In mine, that would work for matches you organize with friends, but wouldn’t work with continuous public matches. Bot hosters would find the passwords and still flood the rooms. However, the safe place during the bot crisis were indeed community servers! I don’t know what exactly they did.
That doesn’t scale to larger games. Rust, for instance, has servers with many hundreds of players (and a huge cheating problem). MMOs will have thousands (and constantly fight bots). The nature of massive, real-time games makes self-policing solutions like votekick or manual whitelists infeasible. Manually investigating user reports is slow. And you pointed out the problems with different kinds of anticheat.
It’s easy to see the allure of root-level monitoring, with all that in mind. Both for developers and players oblivious to or willing to accept the risk. Of course, it also isn’t a silver bullet…
I’m aware of situations in games where kick vote does not work, because they hacked that too. This is possible in some situations where the networking is P2P without an authoritative server.
At which point you can’t even have a truly functional anticheat because any client side anticheat, no matter how invasive, can be defeated.
They still make a big impact on culture and social norms surrounding cheating. But you’re right. There is no fool proof anti-cheat. Software or hardware. Server side authoritative or Peer to Peer. Even with streaming only (Stadia/GeForce Now). None of them are perfect.
It’s all about mitigation and not having a free for all.
Especially since a lot of games are live service, and banning a regular player who buys cosmetics left and right for bad behavior is detrimental to profits. It’s not about making sure everyone has a good time anymore, it’s about “Getting those couple of whales to keep paying.”
Anticheat became a necessity because too many games decided to remove the ability for players to host their own servers. This sucks a lot when people get some games that have SP/MP but never really bother with the MP part
There’s also the problem that most anticheat software will only stop the laziest cheaters, usually the ones that aren’t willing to pay for the cheating software. There are a bunch of cheat-focused forums and creating the software can be profitable.
Trolls & Cheaters & Just downright punk behaviour is something I don’t tolerate in MultiPlayer
Which is why I opt for more Role-playing games like Space station 13 & Barotrauma (Not saying that there’s no crappy behaviour there, it’s just that those games are high-ceiling & there are less instances)
It’s really rampant, especially in games that have aim assist and controllers/controller support on PC. It’s so insanely obvious when someone is using an aim assist device…i.e. no bullet spread on a small automatic gun and hitting like a laser beam at 60 meters vs someone without has a ton of missed shots at that range. Their KDR is magnitudes of order different. They ruin a match. Unfortunately looking to get them banned doesn’t do anything, seeing as using game features buil-in by the devs is a big gray area. It’s not an aimbot or ESP, it’s using and abusing the provided aim assist.
Exactly. I never cheat in MP games, but I use guides and whatnot in SP fairly often.
If you’re cheating in MP, just don’t play MP.
This ^
If I’m playing by myself I’ll use cheats if I feel like it, like messing around, or if I wanna get that ONE unlock that I’ve been trying at for months now and I just wanna be done with it…
But in an online game lad? There’s no glory in ruining other people’s fun.
Well, since the only persons on his mind appear to be Trump and himself: Yeah, everybody’s cheating.
I mainly just have Cheat Engine in order to reduce save scumming in Monster Rancher and keep monsters I like alive longer. I specifically avoid doing anything with the online because I know it’s not fair to everyone else. Though some use mods and cheats for the same game just to make it harder.
I cheat all of the time. I am fucking terrible at games.
If he says he’s top 20 player and it turns out he bought that account then what does that mean for the credibility of his other supposed achievements? Oops.
It tracks with everything else. He also bought Tesla in order to become a ‘founder’.
Not just bought either, he had to sue them too in order to be called a founder.
What’s the story there?
Man who never earned anything a day in his life continues streak by not earning video game achievements.
Known liar founding lying. More obvious observations at 5!
People need to cheat at Diablo 4?
He needs to pretend to be a top tier gamer to win the affection of internet strangers because he craves validation and attention.
Natural born grifter and liar.
To me the reality of it is so damn stupid, If this were back to lying about quake, that’s one thing. He’s claiming on games with continual progression however. Of which even if you have amazing skill, it’s meaningless without time. IE it would be well understood that if someone is in those leaderboards legitimately, they’ve been living the NEET lifestyle (IE spending almost all waking hours playing the game), not say… on a nation tour following around a presidential candidate, while also forming a new government consulting group, spending considerable time on twitter as a user… and being a micromanaging incompetent CEO at 4+ companies.
It ain’t that hard of a game!
Yes but he has no time for this sh*t of course. If you want to reach this kind of levels, you need to play hours and hours per day. And every day of the week. Nobody has time for that.
Precisely, whenever I heard Diablo 4 I had my doubts, at the least I expected he paid others to grind out some of the time sink stuff. Should’ve picked a game thats less time intensive, though I’m sure he’d cheat anyways.
People play Diablo 4? o.0
Touche
Only rich people do.
Whaabout being a founder of Tesla?
What do Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning have to do with Elon lying about having mad gaming skills?
It shows you a trend. What other things has he lied about?? He knows more about manufacturing than anyone else… Look at the POS cybertruk
Full self driving will be here next year… Yep 2016 is here and gone, no FSD…
Starship will get us to the mars…
The manchild is a compulsive liar and a fucking Nazi
I think you misunderstood the comment
Just reiterating for the possible MAGA lurker
Because it’s the same thing. He’s boasting about other people’s achievement. He gives them money and pretends he did it.
Who the fuck cares? 😦
It reveals his character pretty well in a clear and verifiable way.
He denied it strongly. Only to have people call him out all over the place which eventually triggered him to admit to it.
And more importantly It reveals his character in a way that some of his die hard supporters might actually care about.
He’s been shedding fans for a long time now, but way slower than he’s been going off the rails, because the things he’s done have rarely been directly contradictory to the image his fans have of him. Sure taken as a whole they are, but individual actions can be written off as haters using cult logic.
This though, this is… just so pathetic… so blatantly approval seeking and manipulative tendencies.
My initial reaction mirrored yours; who even gives a shit? But seeing how people have been responding, apparently quite a few. And I’m left here, just utterly blown away that it’s this that is making people angry. This? Not all the Nazi shit? Inciting riots? All the molest-y allegations? Lying about a goddamn video game?
Please, asteroid, hurry the fuck up already. C’mon monkey pox, do your stuff.
Believe it or not, a lot of us are actually capable of being angry about more than one thing at a time.
N n nope. Doomerism will not due. The masses without a voice do not deserve to be flushed away just for the sake of being written off along with the outsized vocal minority of status quo warrior right wing authoritarians (and liberal sympathizers of such)
He’s the President of one of the more powerful countries in the world, so I think a lot of people.
lol. Sad but true.
Not many individuals manage to form a stain of shame on their related species. I guess he is, indeed, remarkable in that way.
Not cheating! Boosting/account sharing.
This is a troll account with a post history of straight trolling. Report and block is the only appropriate response.
Not everyone who has a different perspective from you is a troll, buddy.
Whatever you want to call it, it’s inherently dishonest to take credit for skills you don’t have and achievements you didn’t earn.
No one is arguing that it isn’t dishonest. NO ONE.
I’m just arguing that cheating is a different thing than boosting/account sharing. I’m not even arguing which is worse. I sometimes wonder if people can even read. I just corrected the terminology and BAM 14 dislikes. SO dumb.
It is cheating. I’m not sure what this weird take is. He used means that are against the rules of play to become statistically better than other players and rise in the ranks. Boosting and account sharing are against the rules. it is cheating.
Cheating would be if he used external software to modify the game state/gained knowledge about the game state he wasn’t supposed to have.
Other things beyond that can also be cheating. That is one kind of cheating but other things can be cheating as well.
When I hear that someone cheated in a videogame I think about using external software. When I hear that someone boosted in a videogame I think about account sharing. Maybe that’s just me, idk.
From my perspective, cheating would also include account sharing. Would they give me the title for eating the most hot dogs in 15 minutes if I let 10 of my friends help me?
It’s irrelevant to the overall point and comes across as a defense of Musk by attacking an irrelevant piece of semantics.
For example if people are arguing about pineapple on pizza and you say “pineapple is food so it’s ok on pizza” it’s not addressing the actual arguments being made.
If you think I’m defending him for boosting and account sharing - you are simply wrong. I just want the facts to be correct. Maybe it’s going over peoples heads cause I’m autistic (I think) or something idk.
Ok, so you claim you think you are autistic. That’s fair, reading posts can be as hard as being in a room with unfamiliar people who have inside jokes or use sarcasm alot.
So perhaps then you should listen to what everyone here is telling you: boosting and account sharing is a form of cheating, recognised by the platforms he runs those games on. Elon did that, denied he was doing it. And got caught.
Elon cheated.
No Elon didn’t cheat by using the Konami code or downloading an aim not or mod or anything like that. He cheated by boosting and account sharing.
You are getting down votes for two reasons here: you are wrong (he did cheat, it’s how that you seem worried about) and you are defending one of the shittiest people to currently exist on the planet.
Those are the facts. Hope that helps.
How am I defending him lol?
Do you need me to define “defend”? Or are you just that clueless?
Google can help with the first problem. Noone can help you with the second.
Regardless of your intent, the context in which you make a statement matters. You were wondering why people were down voting you so I’m just letting you know. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.
I get being frustrated at people misunderstanding you, happens to everyone, just don’t stress over the imaginary Internet points.
Why yall disliking this? Have I said something that is not factual or something?
i downvoted because your semantics, while technically truthful, are dishonest to the spirit of the accusation
Well, I wasn’t trying to be dishonest. I just like my facts correct. If that makes you happy, downvote all you want.
Yes, you are trying to be pedantic by pointing out that account boosting is not cheating. But it is cheating so not only are you being pedantic, you are wrong .
Here’s what ChatGPT says (and I fully agree with it):
In PoE 2, cheating involves breaking rules with unauthorized tools or exploits, while boosting is getting help from stronger players. Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.
Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.
So you agree that paying someone to boost your account is cheating?
I believe ChatGPT was referring to buying cheating software when it said “paid services”. It may have lost that part of the response when I forced it to condense it into 2 sentences.
You can’t even get the idiot AI to agree with you on this, but you’re still going for it. And that thing will agree with whatever you tell it if you argue long enough.
Alright, you won cheating = boosting. Are you happy now?
The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.
IKR. Unreal!
sarcasm doesn’t work well in text… that’s why we have /s
And even then… Sometimes it doesn’t work haha
This goes against the TOS for both games. If you play either, I highly recommend flooding them with reports on that. It would be great to see him banned. He’ll probably just set up a new account and start again, but it’ll cost him and you know he’ll keep cheating so you can just rinse and repeat.
You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.
Yeah, but it will annoy him.
Still, doesn’t hurt to try.
Time is money and it’ll consume some of his.
Wealth redistribution I can get behind, even if it doesn’t stop him.
Yeah but the money’s partly going to Blizzard so yeah…
I don’t recall saying anything about even attempting to change his behaviour, anyone with half a brain knows that’s a lost cause. The point is being a thorn in his side. He clearly cares or he wouldn’t invest the time and money into these games.
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I just remembered that Grimes came out defending him on this topic.
Or did I fall for a meme/shitpost?
She said something about Diablo that I didn’t understand as someone who doesn’t play that game but apparently confirming that, at one time, he was very skilled. Which is absolutely meaningless in a context where he pays people to play for him and then pretends that he did it.
Diablo IV gives scaled advantage for having very good equipment, and you can spend tons of time getting that equipment optimized. If someone else got him max rolled equipment and all he did was pilot it, it might look to someone who is a non-gamer that he is amazing at the game. You’d have to get the honest opinion of other top tier gamers if he is actually skillful.
Some builds all you have to do is keep spamming one or two attack buttons to wipe out all enemies.
He’s a 50 year old man
He’s a child.
He’s a 50 year old manchild
You know gamers are called man-child, he is something else
A sociopath
That’s missing some crucial information regarding him being a Nazi asshole - amongst other things.
Idk how anyone can say he is not a real gamer after the nazi salutes seen side by side with his twitter history.
I enjoy that the meta image is him doing the nazi salute
Not that I like him doing it, just that it’s being shown around.
“No shit, dumbass…”
—everyone
