I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
Sure why not?
There should never be a global super power. Ever.
To be fair, Chinese is only slightly harder to learn than English
That depends on where you are coming from. English has enough German and Latin roots that most of Europe has a head start when learning English. (linguists will define roots different from what I’m using and say English doesn’t have Latin roots, but there is still significant influence)
If you are coming from an African language though it probably won’t make much difference. Though in Africa there is a good chance your nation was controlled by Europe over the years and so you might know enough of some European language to make English easier.
Basic Mandarin is actually pretty easy.
Becoming even day to day fine doesn’t take long and has fewer tricks.
Getting good enough to read literate classics, or use 成语 in your speech though takes a long time and effort.
That reading and speaking are basically independent skills though is odd to folks used to Alphabetic languages.
I think the main thing which I would have problems with would be the collectivism and confucionism which I really can’t stand. I don’t think it’s necessary to replace English, it’s not American anyway. The rest sounds ok to me, as long as they don’t kill my normal Linux.
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Not worth it in my opinion.
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What do you dislike about collectivism?
I can’t stand that everyone is forced by sociaty to be the same.
I’m not like you, I have my own thinking, my own style, by own taste in music, my own taste in food, etc. etc.
I really like diversity. Let’s look at the music from mainly collectivist countries like China or Korea. There is K-pop and uhm I guess that’s all I know (and I live in Korea). Then let’s compare it to the a individualistic country I lived before like Sweden:
- Electronic Body Music
- Metal (with all it’s subgenres)
- Rock
- Pop
- Electronic Dance Music
And each of them have their own subculture. Yeah you get the point.
Wait, you think collectivism is when everyone is forced to listen to the same music? And eat the same things? And dress the same way?
Those seem to be some of the long term results of the parts of conformism like conformity, group priority and social harmony.
Lol okay then
Just a “Lol” no more explanation?
No because we can and ought to have a world without global superpowers and states overall.
I wouldn’t have a problem with any actually democratic country being a superpower since I’ve always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it’s flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.
As for the things listed, I wouldn’t mind the whole Chinese becoming the defacto world language considering I could probably learn it and if not, translation tools are better than ever before in most cases. I wouldn’t mind Chinese Hollywood so long as they were making quality animated films (which is way more than possible for them currently, just look at films like Legend of Hei and Big Fish and Begonia). Fengshui as a spiritual practice I can’t get behind personally, but have no problems with.
Got no complaints about where UN headquarters would be moved to in this hypothetical so long as it’s not an authoritarian country. I don’t mind Lunar New Year becoming a major holiday since it’s fairly harmless as a concept (just don’t go blowing yourself up with firecrackers somehow). So long as the safety and privacy measures are roughly the same and I’m not being uber spied on, don’t really care who has control of business manufacturing, no authoritarian country though.
Knowing Baidu, without the government requirement to censor, they’d become the new gøøgle in this hypothetical world, so you wouldn’t catch me directly using it. Don’t have enough info on harmony to make a statement about it since I usually just use budget samsun phones with their android tweaks. As for windows/Linux, there are already whole entire Linux distros (like Deepin) that may be forks of one of the big distros but are their own thing. But knowing me, I’d still stick with whatever Linux I am using at the time, so little to no impact for me there.
All in all, I don’t have a problem in this hypothetical. But that’s something we’re pretty far away from ever becoming a reality, though.
since I’ve always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it’s flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.
Hold onto that thought for the next four years. I suspect this statement is going to age like milk before the next “election”.
If China becomes democratic it is no longer China anywhere as we know it. The agenda is still, AFAIK, that the totalitarian regime is necessary for another undisclosed amount of time with the end goal to transition into full communism.
The problem is of course that the party elite quite enjoy this position they are in and are in no hurry for any societal transitions in any direction whatsoever.
So, in my mind, your question is at best some imaginary world building for a fictional scenario that has no connection with reality.
The alternative reality you live in is fascinating.
Would you mind elaborating?
Edit; I got curious and checked out some post history. It’s a tankie. No need to bother then. It will just be arrogance and smug insults and world history that strangely nobody except other tankies find truthful.
I think the point was to have it as a mental exercise. Personally I’d be fine with it. My main issue with China is the entire genocidal surveillance ethnostate with little to no civil liberties and full restricted speech. If it opened up to allow criticism of the government, protests, protection of LGBTQ folks and legal marriage, I’d be more on board.
But yes, that’s not the China we see today and likely never going to see in our lifetimes.
This reads more like “do you care if Chinese culture becomes popular and dominant” and I am not sure. Except for the language (which I don’t think I could learn before I die) I don’t care, the music is good, movies, dance. And China and India are both so populous it would make logical sense to me that one might be the trend-setting culture.
But politically I think it more likely that the US finds its way back to democracy, than China finding its way there.
It wouldn’t be any different, the US is NOT a democracy either and is a global superpower 🤷♂️
I don’t think we have a choice, and the US having the largest military in the world doesn’t really mean anything unless we just want to kill everyone.
They’ve had a bunch of mass attacks by knife and vehicles. Guess what the CCP does?
Improve quality of life? No. Make chef knives harder to obtain? Yes Profile childless men and monitor them? Yes
You confused China with the UK. There are no such restrictions on chefs knives.
Are you familiar with gun violence in the US?
I don’t understand why you would connect these two things. Since when does any power’s foreign policy treat those in the rest of the world as if they have any of the rights afforded to their own citizens? The US certainly doesn’t.
There has to be more than one superpower. Humanity is too immature to behave itself without the threat of mutually assured destruction.
Most of the bullshit American hegemony really started to ramp up after the fall of the USSR when the US found itself unchecked. It could basically go in and fuck up whatever country they felt like. At least during the cold war, they had to consider the possibility of a power equal to their own countering them. Without a check and balance on the world stage, the U.S. has proven itself repeatedly to be without a doubt, the villain of the story.
Most of the bullshit American hegemony really started to ramp up after the fall of the USSR when the US found itself unchecked.
Every single U.S. president since WWII - except for maybe Carter, who had his hand forced - is fully deserving of being brought up for war crimes. American imperialism never really intensified after 1991, it just stepped out from the shadows and became more overt.
Yeah. I worded that wrong for sure.
The policy of American intervention began in South America going as far back as the early 1900s, followed by the middle east after WW1 and Asia-Pacific after WW2.
“Ramp up” was the wrong choice of words, for sure. “Emboldened” to not try to hide it anymore would be more accurate.
My apologies. Thanks for clarifying.
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Yeah I’ve grown pretty dissillusioned in democracy. Seems like a system where the loudest, richest, and most obnoxious rule.
Not really, the same issues that plague the world right now will still exist, just stemming from a different entity
