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Summary
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Elon Musk after he made a gesture during Trump’s inauguration resembling a Nazi salute.
Musk and his allies dismissed the comparison, calling such accusations exaggerated.
Ocasio-Cortez, however, called the gesture unacceptable, emphasizing America’s history of opposing Nazis and the Confederacy.
She also condemned the Anti-Defamation League for defending Musk, accusing it of losing credibility.
Her comments sparked broader debate on symbols, gestures, and their implications amid Trump’s return to office.
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It didn’t resemble a Nazi salute. It was a Nazi salute.
Yup. Twice in a row. Exactly as the Nazis did it.
Stand to attention facing the crowd. Hand to chest, then full extension. Turn around to face the Fuhrer, or if he isn’t there, the Nazi flag. Then stand to attention and sieg heil again.
He did it. It’s not debatable. Don’t engage in debate with bad actors attempting to rewrite this history. The richest man in the world, who will act in an official capacity in the White House, is openly a Nazi. Because you are a Nazi if you perform a Nazi salute.
Yeah all these media sources keep saying things like “a day after Musk used an arm gesture, twice, that resembled the Roman salute adopted by the Nazis.”
It’s blatantly obvious that they’re afraid of getting sued. Kind of like instead of saying someone lied, they’ll soften it up to say they made a statement that some fact checkers may disagree with.
I remember Robert Evans from BTB saying that when he worked in journalism, ANY story on a rich person was automatically followed up on by a lawsuit from the person in question, so they’d have legal on a retainer ready to respond.
Yeah, he did it a second time to assure everyone of this.
He did it better the second time around.
The first time looked a little awkward (though definitely recognizable as a Nazi salute.) The second one was spot on.
If she’s the only one in office that’s willing to say anything about this, we’re in a lot more trouble than we thought.
Surprise!
Fascism isn’t coming.
It’s here.
And the number of people standing up against it is so small it’s practically the butt of a joke.
We’re cooked. Buy a gun. Protect yourself.
Build a drone. Learn how to fly it. Even better for long range, are the wood and paper rc planes that are expendable and being used in Ukraine.
Or designing our own versions of the cardboard ones from all our empty amazon boxes.
Oh, it’s even worse: Dem leadership is actively suppressing her ascendancy.
Fixed
Democratic leadership is gonna fuck everything up. We need a new branch of the party similar to what the tea party did for Republicans. They may not be relevant today, but I believe they permanently changed the Republican Party (for the worse in my liberal opinion).
Yeah, they’re still trying to litigate which progressive group to blame, instead of looking in the mirror and saying “holy fuck we really screwed the pooch, didn’t we?”
The “adults in the room” sleepwalked us into a fascist sweep of the elections, and they don’t seem to see anything fucking wrong with that. The Democratic Party no longer deserves to be a party after this. This will go down as one of the most catastrophic own-goals in the history of the republic, if not the absolute worst. Yes, I am fully aware of the civil war, and the antebellum political context, and my statement stands.
They lost to the worst candidate possible two times. This one was legit too. It’s frustrating that Kamala Harris picked a fantastic VP nominee, then sidelined him so she could share a stage with Dick Cheney. That’s why she lost.
It genuinely beggars belief. Walz had his head on SO FUCKING STRAIGHT. If they’d have used his points instead of the idiot fucking consultant brain trust, I think they would have absolutely cleaned up and won in a landslide. But noooooooo tHe cONsULtaNtS KnoW wHaT ThEY’rE dOinG LeT’S giVe tHEm MOre mONeY ANd gET LiZ cHENeY iN HerE.
Fucking christ. I’m torn between laughing hysterically and just sobbing uncontrollably. It was so fucking winnable, and the adults in the room just absolutely, thoroughly shit the bed. They have no fucking clue what they’re doing, but they’re STILL convinced they do. Biden is apparently convinced he could have won it if he stayed in, the fucking tool. Schumer just texted me for more money as if he wasn’t a huge part of what fucking got us here in the first fucking place. Harris kow-tow’d to the DNC establishment. Pelosi… don’t get me fucking started. And they’re all fucking pointing fingers at each other and refusing to take a single fucking shred of blame. I’d say they should be fucking outlawed from engaging in politics as a hyperbolic expression of outrage, but Trump is probably going to try to do that anyways, in addition to whatever other political persecution he can convince the DoJ up… AND NONE OF THEM SEEM TO FUCKING GET THAT LAST PART. Their lives are potentially going to be on the line and they’re still convinced they’re playing fucking poker or some shit.
But anyways. How was your day?
7/10. U?
Solid 5/7
They took that page down
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ocasio-cortez-loses-bid-top-democrat-house-oversight/story?id=116874211 Nah I was able to retrieve it through Bing out of all things heh
Oh yeah, I remember this. Ridiculous.
Thank you
Did ABC take the link down? It’s not there anymore EDIT: Nevermind I found the link https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ocasio-cortez-loses-bid-top-democrat-house-oversight/story?id=116874211
Thanks
Really, it’s these establishment Democrats that have made it the party of slow reaction times, large government, and inefficiency. AOC should be elevated, and elevated, and elevated again. She’s an American hero and patriot and should have been given more responsibility long ago.
Behold the one prominent US politician with any principles.
And for that she will never be allowed near any real power…
There’s a few more, but she’s the most charismatic. It’s a shame too, they tend to win more than their moderate counterparts during midterm races.
It’s one of the reasons reactionaries hate her so much.
And also that she’s a woman of color who didn’t stay “in her place.”
And it’s so annoying to hear liberals parrot the same shit because the conglomerates who own liberal media don’t want to change the status quo.
You for got Sanders
We do t deserve Bernie
He’s old AF, and a good person. He’ll probably die seeing the country he tried so hard to save slide into full on fascism. He deserves more than that.
We really need him to go full on windy tits and call for action. I’m exactly one Bernie blessing away from being a radical.
If you’re one away, consider it had. We are running out of luxuries here.
I’m very much a team player.
Only time I think I ever really got triggered about politics was when a friend of mine mentioned voting against Sanders just because he felt condoms shouldn’t be included in universal health care, no other reason.
No other reason they were willing to say out loud.
Lmao, talk about single issue…
Abortion? Nah. Condoms.
Fucking preach.
I really hope AOC considers a 2028 run for President.
Edit: please fuck off about the uncertainty of 2028 elections, I’m excruciatingly aware, your reminders are not helpful.
It’s hilarious that you think you’re getting another election before Vance dies of old age. I hope you’re right of course but I’m pretty sure your future “elections” will be performative. You’re going to have to take that right back.
Part of fighting for it involves planning in case the fight is successful, and that planning includes picking candidates, so my original comment stands.
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Bold of you to assume there will be a 2028 election
Edit: commenter made a good point. It’s foolish to abandon any potential avenue of change, even if it seems like a lost cause
oh alright let’s all just give up then
Good point, thanks for the correction
In This Country, We Hate Nazis
Lol! No they don’t.
The US has always loved fascism. It’s the only one of two political ideologies it endorses.
Nazism is almost an American export, even. See, for example, How the Nazis were inspired by Jim Crow.
And the other is passive fascist enablers.
We love nazis so much we saved half of them after WW2 and brought them back home.
…and the other half was left in Germany to fill up West Germany’s intelligence services.
and all the remainders that survive mysteriously ended up in Argentina.
Latin America was essentially a retirement resort for fascist war criminals after WW2.
It turns out that the dictators who was friendly to US corporate interests was also raging Nazi sympathizers. It must be a complete coincidence though and totally not related at all.
Just the most brilliant
I greatly appreciate her frustration and look forward to her being the largest voice in dissent.
Same. But she better not be the only dissenting voice!
She’ll be MLK Jr’d before she becomes any sort of real voice. We can’t rely on idolising individuals anymore, that’s what fascists do.
I love AOC but I sure hope she has a really good security team. Most of us hate Nazis, but a whole lot of Republicans are actually Nazis and they hate and despise her.
AOC, you personally might hate Nazis, but your country voted them into the White House, the congress, and the Senate. I wish you the best to fight the scum, like real Americans did 80 years ago.
The ones who don’t aren’t our countrymen and I look forward to the day enough of us recognize it.
Yeah but when my grandfather did it he had an M1
My grandfather was in the Navy on the pacific theater. Japanese fascists, German fascists, Italian fascists, all died the same way.
She’s not here to hear you. Send that as an email/voicemail so she knows what you want to say.
I want to live in the country she thinks she’s living in…
Demonstrably not, AOC.
Most based AOC, I wonder if the hate-thirsting over her will begin again now that she’s becoming such a needed voice in these trying times.
Only asking because the memes about Ben Shapiro wnating her feet pics were funny as hell.
But seriously, can it actually not? I low-key hated all the “Let’s just tell dumb blonde jokes with AOC instead of the dumb blonde.” memes, cause it’s like… when we call Trump dumb, we can point to shit he actually did (like turn every American into a woman because he’s too transphobic to know how to read), we aren’t just saying it to say it.
Weeeeellllll… some of us do.
I wish that were true
Meh. 25% or so love them, another 25% couldn’t be bothered to care.
25% of people who couldn’t be bothered to care are still considered Nazis as far as I know
Nobody could have predicted him to be a bad person. Really, that came as a surprise for everyone 🤡
You think the numbers are that low? I’d say tops only 33% of the US still hates nazis. The remainder are split between loving them or being indifferent
i never realized that in the final battle between the forces of good, evil, and indifference that the indifferent would be by far the largest and most dangerous faction
Really? Because it always has been. Or did you forget the classic quote “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
-Martin Luther King Jr
He got it
I know it’s crazy
i guess the ancestors tried to tell us about the banality of evil, how badethings happen when good men do nothing, and that the path to hell is paved with good intentions
