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It honestly might be true
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.
Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?
The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.
However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.
The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.
Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see
about:telemetry). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…
lol
Fennec for the phone, Qutebrowser for the desktop. Life is good.
Just curious, why Fennec for phones?
I tried a fair few browsers for android. Iceraven, Fulguris, Fennec, and Mull. I settled on Fulguris, because it was no frills with custom adblock lists and a good built in darkmode.
However, Fulguris became a headache because any app that required a browser portal login wouldn’t recognize it.
So I moved to Mull. Then Mull dropped the project. Mull, Iceraven, and Fennec are basically the same idea as Firefox derivatives.
I use a free, massive coverage, open source icon pack called Delta and between Iceraven and Fennec I liked the Fennec icon more.
Daily reminder that Brave uses Chromium, an open source project where all the commits are approved or denied by Google devs.
All web browsers are shit, Firefox and Brave included.
Never thought I would see a version of “all lives matter” but applied to web browsers
I went from using a web browser for everything, to trying to find native apps for everything.
The same apps that have access to more of your data (because they’re not sandboxed in a browser), use electron (ships a browser) and include trackers that one can’t simply block with an extension?
I meant, like email and lemmy desktop clients.
Guess you’re outside the EU or something? Cause it looks different over here, Firefox isn’t mentioned here. Also they’re at 4.9 instead of 4.7 for some reason. Either way, fuck brave.
when you search firefox on the play store, there’s a brave ad
True. It’s also there when you look for chrome and other browsers. (Except Vivaldi and opera which have also bought ad space) That’s how buying ads works. Fucked up, but nothing new, unfortunately.
no, I’m in Ireland. You have to search for “firefox” for it to come up, but they could have changed it.
Yeah, probably. This morning when I searched for Firefox, I did get a brave ad, as you and others have said. Altho there was nothing anti-firefox in their ad. Now when I search for Firefox I actually get a Firefox ad.
I don’t know much about brave except that its chromium based and apparently removes web ads as its main feature. Why are they running ads? Why do I keep getting this browser recommended? How the fuck do they make money to be able to target me with this info? Something is off and I don’t like it. I feel like the pressure to use brave isnt coming to me organically so I’m staying clear of it. I just have a bad feeling and I’ll trust my gut on this.
Its full of crypto bullshit as well, and they add their own ads too some pages that they pay you to watch (in a useless crypto)
Because they “reward” people with crypto for watching ads so a lot of cryptobro assholes have financial interest in the browser getting more popular.
Also the CEO is homophobic and right-wing so it speaks to a lot of loud assholes.
Well, they threatened students for creating a fork. So yeah, they are dead to me
They block all ads except their own.
One feels there is an allegory for “too stupid to be afraid” buried in here.
Forget the Lion
Firefox is my main browser, but I occasionally need a Chromium browser for technical reasons. I had been using Brave - note the past tense there. Any suggestions for my new secondary browser?
I’ve been using Vivaldi
Ecosia is not bad and they plant trees whenever you do a search:)
Secureblue’s Trivalent browser looks promising. Currently the only way to install it outside of secureblue is COPR on Fedora, but I’m sure there will soon be packages in the AUR, Gentoo, Nix, etc.
Other good options are Cromite, Thorium and Ungoogled Chromium
I’ve been using thorium as my secondary browser and it’s been very good. That’s the one I recommend.
Fedora works for me, thanks for the pointer
Here’s the COPR repo: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/secureblue/trivalent/
Ungoogled Chromium flatpak
need a Chromium browser for technical reasons
With a similar use case, after messing around with Brave, then Ungoogled Chromium for a few years, I just reinstalled Google Chrome last month. I literally only need it for making sure webdesign stuff I do works okay in Chrome, and for the extremely rare websites I come across that refuses to work in Firefox 🤷 I didn’t change any settings or install even an adblocker, to make sure I’m testing as close to the “vanilla” experience as possible. I also don’t log into any accounts with it, so I don’t really care if Google sees what I do for that 2-3 page visits / month.
Get yourself a naked chromium from their github. That’s what I do. Least amount of bloat this way.
Use Ungoogled Chromium instead
I think anyone who is already using Firefox knows very well why they wouldn’t want to use Brave 🤷 (My main reasons were being a Chromium browser and having unwanted crypto features included.)
Edit: Oh yes, and the CEO’s homophobia is not helping either…
Ah shit. Didn’t know about that. Uninstalling. Is there an iOS browser that will hide my device fingerprint other than Brave?
Tor Browser is available on iOS :) should be able to hide mostly everything lol
Do you have a source for the edit, please?
(…) anger over his $1,000 (£600) donation in 2008 to support Californian anti-gay marriage laws bubbled over when he was appointed chief executive.
Thanks
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Iirc, it only comes up if you search for firefox. They could have changed it.
This is after searching Firefox on the Apple App Store, same as searching for brave.
I think its just on the play store.
I got the same result, searching for Firefox on Play store
Yup, third confirmation that this shows up as a “limited time event” which I suspect is an ad in playstore if you search for firefox.
Confirmed. They definitely paid to advertise under “Firefox” searches.
It appeared for me as well. As the second result, under “Limited-time events”, first result was Firefox. What followed below in the “More results” were the rest of the Firefox variants.
Confirmed
Out of interest, does anything similar come up for chrome? The common enemy of both.
I ditched this crap years ago. Fuck this Trojan horse.
“Fire the Fox” would have been a better slogan
