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NZ? You a billionaire?
Now playing Flight of the Conchords - Inner City Pressure
left the UK 13yrs ago and never regretted it
skills shortage list is how I got in, and being under 40 (at the time) gave me points in their system.
anyway just going to drop this here if YouTube is allowed
Take me with you
congrats.
Nau mai ki Aotearoa!
Congrats on having a backbone. Hope you enjoy the vast experiences in your new life!
Having a backbone would be to stick around and fight this shit; not flee.
Neither is easy.
That’s a bit harsh. Like my old man always said, “you gotta know when to hold 'em; know when to fold 'em; know when to walk away and know when to run.”
That song is about a gambler’s desire for selfish self-preservation, not “having a backbone”
It might be, but if you think about it, it also applies to life in general, which has a lot in common with gambling. Sometimes you have to take risks, sometimes the risks are stupid…
You’re kidding me! Now I need to go and read the lyrics.
Your dad was Don Schlitz? Or was he Kenny Rogers?
Actually, my dad hated that song. It was my mom who was whistling it all over the house.
It’s not. Granted, I 100% respect and understand someone’s decision to leave the USA at this time, but there’s very little that’s courageous about putting yourself into a better situation. It’s the next option up from rolling over and dying.
If the US had an actual democracy and ability to fight back, you’d be right. But we don’t, so you aren’t.
You can’t expect people to take up arms and go kill cops and politicians, even if that’s what’s needed. That is a hell of a lot to ask of someone. Why aren’t you doing that right now? Are you scared?
Yeah, them and everyone else is too.
Although I personally did begin educating myself and training with a rifle about 2 years ago; it’s not the correct tool for the job at this time.
Right now is a time to come together and organize. Earlier today on a different thread I posted up the .pdf of the memo from OPM that directed federal agencies to send out that fascist email that went out yesterday/ the day before, and within it, there’s a copy of the standard format email template that’s going to be used to fire a bunch of federal employees within the next couple of days.
I moved from FL to Colorado to organize around more people like myself; I am fighting right now but it’s not with a rifle.
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Yeah, walking away from every person you’ve ever known and every support system you’ve ever had in hopes of a better future with no real promises to fall back on if it doesn’t work out isn’t courageous at all.
I’d call courageous moving into a red state… and then everything you said above still applies. I moved from a red state to a blue state in October. Everything you said applies to me, but I can assure you that my decision was not one that was “courageous.” It’s self preservation.
Self preservation can take courage.
You’re being nitpicky for no reason. Something can be courageous without being the most courageous thing anyone has ever done.
I didn’t expect such a backlash from a dumb comment which was only intended to reference The Gambler.
People have been fighting for like 8 years now.
Its over, sometimes it best to just walk away.
Did you get a job before moving? Just curious about the logistics of a visa
Hope your life goes well in New Zealand. Leaving on the cusp of a new hope is an odd choice.
I get you’re trolling but it’s not funny anymore. It was barely funny in 2016 but with looming environmental collapse and the rise of a fascism. Just read the room, please.
I wish there was a way to down-vote this comment so much that your global internet privileges are revoked. Describe any one of Trump’s executive orders that instills hope in anyone?
The only good thing may be the lift on psychedelics that RFK announced, but that’s not worth the rest of the shit the Trump administration wants to do
Here’s a few Trump’s executive orders that make me hopeful for the future of the USA
- Removing DEI from the government (the modern version people ok being racist) https://www.wilmerhale.com/en/insights/client-alerts/20250122-president-trumps-second-term--anti-dei-executive-orders & https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/keeping-americans-safe-in-aviation/
- Unleashing American Energy: (https://www.hklaw.com/en/general-pages/trumps-2025-executive-orders-chart)
Also, DOGE is doing good for the people, very happy with the waste & people over 150 years old being cut in Social Security.
just remember to keep voting, don’t let what happened to Venezuela happen to you guys
My brother in Christ, the UK is already addicted to Middle East and Russian money, they don’t need drug trafficking money like Venezuela to ruin their political system.
Great choice and good luck!
Be warned, you’re in for some price shocks. Cost of living in NZ is nuts atm. Best of luck tho, it’s a solid place.
Trumpeter is currently researching what independent nation to rename yo NUSA…NewUSA.
It hadn’t really occurred to me to seriously ask where an American could leave to and become a citizen. I’ve got a degree in Information Systems and I work I.T., which I would think would be relatively valuable somewhere.
There are a shit ton of companies in my area that are looking for IT people here in Germany, and I think thats the case all over Europe.
I looked into moving to Germany a few years ago, I also work in IT. The part I had an issue with was figuring out how much I need to get paid to have a similar life style there. Taxes and cost of living is was different, especially if you want to live near a city.
The other issue is my wife works in health care but her job seems to be covered by nursing with a specialty in respiratory therapy. Here in the states we have people that are only respiratory therapists, couldn’t figure out how that would move over.
Your wife’s job is going to be hard to translate to other countries. But if she has an education in healthcare, and it’s nursing adjacent, maybe reach out to the nurses unions in your target countries, they could maybe help you move forward. Everybody are screaming for healthcare professionals, so maybe the local health authorities would be able to help as well.
I have no idea about other countries, but in Denmark we have an agency of international recruitment and integration. They’re mostly involved with deportations, or so it would seem based on the news stories, but guiding potential specialists in translating their qualifications should be in their purview. Maybe other countries have something similar.
“IT” as in operations, networks, security, support, or? I mean a suitable background in networks and you’d make 130k USD plus pension as a networking consultant in Denmark. IDK about citizenship though. As with all the rest of Europe, we’ve seen a rise in right wing populism and are now suffering from its resulting inane immigration laws.
But if you’re in for the adventure, then you could look outside the list of English speaking countries. There’s The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, we all speak English and we all have healthcare… But don’t go to Sweden, they suck :-)
Relevant (median salaries in the EU): https://www.levels.fyi/heatmap/europe/
Nice, NZ will welcome you here.
