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Summary
Hundreds of subreddits are debating banning links to X.com (formerly Twitter) following Elon Musk’s Nazi salute at a Trump rally.
Dozens of subreddit moderators have already implemented bans, while others are holding votes among their communities.
The bans span political, regional, and topical subreddits, including r/NewJersey, r/londonOntario, and r/christianity, with some highlighting Musk’s gesture alongside neo-Nazi imagery.
This move reflects growing backlash against Musk and his platform over perceived alignment with extremist symbolism.
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I don’t like the guy either way, but I still can’t believe this is actually real. Are there any videos that show unequivocally that this is a salute and not just a meme made out of a poorly timed photo? All I’ve seen so far are just still shots, which leads me to suspect there’s a spin on this.
Edit: I should also add I avoid X as much as possible anyway.
Holy shit
That’s just laziness on your part. It’s VERY easy to find video clips of the two times he did it.
Reddit’s response to this will reveal where Reddit likely falls on the Spectrum of Evil. They’re a privately-held company, so any possible protection money they may have paid to the Nazis won’t be visible like Meta’s and such until the FEC report is (likely never) released in 3 months.
Didn’t they recently go public? They’re traded as RDDT on the New York Stock Exchange.
Yes, they went public last year. And despite all the gloating on lemmy about a drop in share price right after the ipo, it’s up 500% since then.
Edit: 300%
Can’t say for sure, but knowing spez, Reddit Inc willl be bleep Trump’s bleep harder than a Philippine bleep on a black Friday sale…
50 bucks say that within 6 months Reddit will have a policy that prohibits reddit subs from blocking twatter links.
I would not take that bet lol, i guarantee they are tweaking over this and scared about how this effects shareholders, they should be more worried about all the sus nsfw stuff right next to ads for “wholesome” companies
I can’t believe it’s taken this long. I get disappointed when microblogmeme jpegs don’t have 2 @ symbols in them.
Are there other sites to which links are banned? I don’t really like that policy for anything no matter how nefarious. Unless it’s malware or a liability and going to land the visitor in prison.
Links to Russian websites and telegram are banned on most of not all subreddits.
That kind of things is part of the reason I came to Lemmy.
Porn sites without strict CSAM, malicious injection or spam protection, many individual subs ban extreme right-wing sites, Fox News or opposite left-etc
I have less of an issue with individual communities banning certain links, I think an instance-wide ban on anything due to ideology is annoying. I can figure out that Nazis suck on my own, thank you.
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eh, spez is probably going to step in and force them back to require Twitter or something. he wouldn’t want to be pushed out of the oligarchy.
fuck spez in advance
It’s actually scary how much of Reddit is full of astroturf and overly sensitive moderators these days. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
The bots are going nuts over there… lol… no way the TOP comments of some of those are legit…
I don’t care what Reddit does, it’s dead to me
do they not ban all lemmy links as well?
guide them to Lemmy and my comment becomes “[ Removed by Reddit ]” after a few seconds
I wish I could stop using WhatsApp but that’s where all the people without phone plans are. I wish I could stop using Telegram but that’s where all the drug dealers are. I wish Reddit would ban X links, but that’s where all the sassy hot takes are.
You can of course, you’re just chosing to support zuck, musk and durov because it’s slightly inconvenient for you not to
Of those three, telegram isn’t as bad though. They’re insecure and share data with law enforcement etc, but they’re not as active and enthusiastic collaborators with Trump
insecure and share data with law enforcement
[citation needed]
If Telegram receives a valid order from the relevant judicial authorities that confirms you’re a suspect in a case involving criminal activities that violate the Telegram Terms of Service, we will perform a legal analysis of the request and may disclose your IP address and phone number to the relevant authorities.
Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. And more importantly doesn’t seem insecure to me.
The insecure bit is that they don’t e2e-encrypt by default, so they have access to the data. In theory someone could hack telegram’s servers and steal it. In theory someone might have done that already.
Signal in contrast couldn’t really give your data away, without hiding a backdoor in the client or encryption, which someone could then find.
I thought telegram were now also sharing message content with law enforcement, but it seems they claim to only share IP address and phone numbers. We have no way of verifying that, but it’s still better than I remembered.
It might or might not matter for you of course.
My point is the network effect. That’s where people are and I have no power to change that, so that is where I must sometimes be. If it was up to me, things would be wonderful and open source. But I sometimes have to deal with — ugh… humans.
It is up to you though. I get that you can make the choice that supporting zuck and musk is an OK price to pay to not have to do a little more work or be the annoying person saying “I only have Signal” but it is very much your choice. You could choose differently, if your priorities were different
I did that for a while. The thing that happened was that I got left out of stuff, because people didn’t always think of informing me separately, when it was already discussed in the already existing groups. Sometimes they would inform me after all the planning was done what the plans were, sometimes I got a last minute info or no info at all. So the choice was between a significant loss in my social life and using the same service as everyone else in my social circles.
India alone is about 2 billion people who all use WhatsApp. I cannot change the world. I hear you and would love for us all to switch to federated or — at least — decentralized things, or whatever. I will advocate for it, but like banks and shit are using WhatsApp. It is legitimized here even more than MMS. I can’t stop it. And yes, I have made the choice to communicate with humans rather than using Signal.
Some of us value our social connections more I guess? I still use WhatsApp and I have no control over those around me to use otherwise. As already stated it’s the network effect. The vast majority of people do not care about Telegram or Signal.
So that’s what it takes before people think of leaving twitter.
They have concepts of leaving, but addiction is a bitch. Most will stay.
People have been leaving Twitter in waves for years. This is just another one.
We’re spending so much media attention on this Nazi salute that I’m wondering if it may have been the intent all along - tie up media coverage while the Trump administration pushes harmful legislation through under the radar.
Well, trump is doing some weird old chap shit… musk did a master move (relative to it’s intelect)
That is how i read the situation
What are we going to do. Ignore the Nazi in the room?
The thing is, Trump’s harmful policies are in fact Nazi policies. We need to be spending more attention on the fact that there are now Nazis in the White House.
Thus, the stun lock begins
Just ban it!
Please do
And they’ll eventually not do it considering they are still debating about it. Just do it.
Some have already banned, some are in the process of voting.
