Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn’t mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!
You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!
if you still have spotify, please cancel it.
Done
Does Joe Rogan own Spotify?
No, but they’re donating money to the inauguration and hosting Rogan, Shapiro, and others podcasters to, by Spotify’s own word, “tout the power of podcasts in the election”. It seems awfully cozy behavior.
Oh shit, thanks for the jnfo!
Yes, I guess at this point Spotify is a pro-Nazi business.
What large corporation isn’t at this point?
Costco?
Which music streaming service do you recommend? (honest question)
Soulseek with listenbrainz
I’m quite happy with Tidal. Been using it for 6-7 months now.
I’ve tried a few of them, all with family plans:
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Amazon Music: good track selection, awful apps. Horrid integration with Sonos.
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YouTube Music: I was using this for quite a while, my kids hated it because of the way the miniplayer worked. I found it frustrating because it would often play a YouTube rip of a song instead of the album track.
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Tidal: great choice, but I couldn’t get it to use gapless playback when casting to my receiver.
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Apple Music: we’re currently all using this one. Everyone is happy (Android, Chromecast, Sonos, iPhones, iPads, Car Play, and Android Auto). Finally.
Have you tried Napster? That’s not a joke in case you thought it might be
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YouTube premium has YouTube music, and it works well enough for me and my extended family
Yes cause google is SO much better
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll have a look at them. Unfortunately none of them seem all that good. Spotify ist the only one that has a Linux app. Tide has a third party app, which is just the website inside electron. Even the Spotify app is just electron. I find it extremely shitty that these companies don’t even bother publishing electron apps. The ratings on the play store are also mostly bad. But I have to investigate that.
I know it’s fashionable to hate on Apple (justified or not), but Apple Music is very good. As a bonus, you can bundle it with Apple TV+, which have so many extremely good shows and movies.
I use Tidal but their servers kind of suck sometimes.
I still can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone gives a shit about what Joe Rogan says. We need to stop giving monumentally stupid people such large platforms.
I can’t either, but he helped swing the election.
He’s popular because of long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda. It’s not that hard to understand why he has a large audience. The amount of push back from people complaining about him “platforming” people they disagree with further adds to the appeal. People want free expression and exchange of ideas, not censorial hall monitors with holier-than-thou attitudes who think they know better than you.
My problem is he uncritically accepts bullshit gecause he has no idea. When he was ypunger he was more willing to change.
long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda.
There seem to be lots of options for that these days. He’s not so unique anymore.
But he built up such a large audience.
I use to casually watch select episodes where the guest was someone cool or interesting. And the fringe topics could be fun.
But now… bleh. It’s all too self aware and shot with bullshit now.
Sure that’s fair. There is a lot of bullshit from a lot of places these days. You’ve gotta be able to filter it for yourself. You don’t have to agree with every position someone has on every single political issue.
That’s exactly what I use to do. I’ve never agreed with all his opinions. But it went from “we just have different perspectives” to “I can’t tolerate this nonsense, willful ignorance, etc, etc.”
He really changed. He went from a lunkhead you could assume had his heart in the right place, even if he said dumb ignorant shit, to someone who’s spreading toxic ideologies that “other” people and sow broad and deep distrust in our institutions. — It’s beyond musing about conspiracy theories and talking about “they.” Now it’s active agenda laden conspiracy proselytization.
The problem is meathead Joe Rogan lets his guests tell cool stories about their experiences to gain an audience, then proceeds to express the stupidest fucking thoughts imaginable to all those people from the gaping anus that serves as his mouth.
He’s the first person to say not to listen to him. I don’t have an issue with people expressing their opinions even if they’re as mean as this; usually folks are nicer about it when it’s in person and not online.
Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn’t change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he’ll go completely unchecked.
There’s an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).
I honestly prefer the angle of “Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you”.
And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.
“Oh this person did one thing that isn’t permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I’m going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again.”
The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.
Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new “woke” stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.
The only people I hear talking about “woke nonsense” are white people who are upset that the world is changing.
The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don’t care how cultish it is.
I hate the term “woke” because it’s wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.
“Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad.”
“What, so people can’t make mistakes anymore? So much for the ‘tolerant left’.” And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.
Bro what?
Dont trust our lying eyes, eh?
Joe is operating in bad faith here.
Q: At what point can we call a spade a spade and they’d agree?
A: Never
Even if we were literally rounding Jews up into boxcars and shipping them off to be killed in ovens, the republicans would be like “OH, SO WE JUST CALL EVERYONE NAZIS NOW”.
Goebbels say what?
That’s giving Joe way too much credit. Goebbels was evil, but he was also smart.
Spot on. There are so many good quotes from him and Goering. I’m not a Nazi weirdo or anything, but they’re just so… Relevant.
Goebbels:
A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.
Makes you think some leaders studied this a bit…
W: “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
Yeah I debated going with Göring, but I decided to pick the 'mouth of Sauron ’ angle. As Göring is also way more intelligent than Rogan… And a legit war vet.
Do people always forget how the story about crying wolf ends? A real fuckin wolf shows up. Rips the kid to sheds. Horrible ending.
To shreds, you say?
“Well, how is his wife holding up?”
To shreds you say?
An entire town decided that they’d have a child act as the monitor for a known threat; he makes two mistakes and then they stop believing him as he does the job the town put him there to do. At no point does anyone decide, “hey, maybe we should put two kids up there… just in case.”
It would have been to progressive to not use child labor. They likely didn’t respect his job because they considered it unskilled. All he did was stand at the door at Costco and check for membership cards.
Oh wait…
I feel dumber just having read that. Apparently pointing out that someone made a Nazi salute is covering for the fact that … checks notes … you’re an asshole. The fact that this village idiot is popular is truly a damning indictment of America.
Keep doubling down, you fucking jackasses. Rest of the world is watching.
Key word is “watching”. They’re more than happy to have an audience as long as they get what they want. And they do and they are.
I wish you were wrong, but I guess “You’re up, mario”.
When your podcast accepts Nazis on your show … your show is Nazi propaganda
More accurately, when your podcast accepts nazi’s on your show… and you let them go off on rants and you don’t push back on them… your show is nazi propoganda.
It’s perfectly reasonable for a show to have horrific people on… so long as they loudly are showing “No that is bullshit, here’s why that is bullshit!”.
So, this whole dynamic is very simple: If you’re defending a Nazi, you’re a Nazi.
If you’re at a dinner and there are 4 nazis sitting at the table with you, there are 5 nazis at the table.
Joe Rogan defending a billionaire for doing a overt nazi salute in public? Crazy. Who could have seen this coming.
What’s another word for a guy who defends nazis?
Hmm i have the feeling it’s start with a N
So Joe it was just a Roman salute huh? He was just trolling huh even though the motherfucker has said he is a white supremecist at what point is this shit not just trolling anymore
Where did he say he is a white supremacist
He’s a cryptofascist. I don’t think he’s come outright and said it, but when he portrays himself as the semi-ironic white supremacist god “Kek,” he knows that it gives him enough plausible deniably that he can play his fashy little denial games.
After his sieg heil the other day, there’s no longer any room for doubt.
So he didn’t outright say it, but if I flip someone off while grinning and telling them they’re number one, there’s no denying what I’m actually saying.
I 100% agree but the user I responded to claimed that Elon admitted to being a white supremacist, and I just wanted a source on that because I don’t think it happened
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Joe Rogan is a meathead.
Close your eyes and imagine a meathead.
That’s Joe Rogan.
Only a fool would listen to what Joe Rogan has to say because only fools listen to meatheads.
Unfortunately, we live in an age where meatheads are idolized by millions of people. Because our educational systems have failed. Because many, if not most, humans were simply not ready for the internet.
I thought he was Broprah until I remembered Oprah didn’t chum around with the fascists, white supremacists, or neonazis on the show.
She did have the KKK on her show, and she did it in the daytime tv model as well. Not saying she was chuming around with them, but she did have them on.
She yelled at them.
Yeah, but she did have them on her show.
You mean the satanic panic lady was pure…
Other than Dr.Oz
Any of the diets she peddled, Her career before she decided trash tv wasn’t for her, Dr. Phil, Deepak Chopra…
