Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn’t mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!
You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!
He funds AfD, Joe.
And does Nazi salutes in public. And supports “Tommy Robinson”, leader of the UK’s stupidest far-right thugs. And was praised by his own father for returning to his Nazi roots.
The guy from News Radio?
News Radio was at least 5 hat sizes ago for him.
The sad thing is that when someone says that, they could also be talking about Andy Dick.
No one talks about Andy Dick
BUT!
It was our wedding day…
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I still can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone gives a shit about what Joe Rogan says. We need to stop giving monumentally stupid people such large platforms.
I can’t either, but he helped swing the election.
He’s popular because of long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda. It’s not that hard to understand why he has a large audience. The amount of push back from people complaining about him “platforming” people they disagree with further adds to the appeal. People want free expression and exchange of ideas, not censorial hall monitors with holier-than-thou attitudes who think they know better than you.
The problem is meathead Joe Rogan lets his guests tell cool stories about their experiences to gain an audience, then proceeds to express the stupidest fucking thoughts imaginable to all those people from the gaping anus that serves as his mouth.
He’s the first person to say not to listen to him. I don’t have an issue with people expressing their opinions even if they’re as mean as this; usually folks are nicer about it when it’s in person and not online.
long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda.
There seem to be lots of options for that these days. He’s not so unique anymore.
But he built up such a large audience.
I use to casually watch select episodes where the guest was someone cool or interesting. And the fringe topics could be fun.
But now… bleh. It’s all too self aware and shot with bullshit now.
Sure that’s fair. There is a lot of bullshit from a lot of places these days. You’ve gotta be able to filter it for yourself. You don’t have to agree with every position someone has on every single political issue.
That’s exactly what I use to do. I’ve never agreed with all his opinions. But it went from “we just have different perspectives” to “I can’t tolerate this nonsense, willful ignorance, etc, etc.”
He really changed. He went from a lunkhead you could assume had his heart in the right place, even if he said dumb ignorant shit, to someone who’s spreading toxic ideologies that “other” people and sow broad and deep distrust in our institutions. — It’s beyond musing about conspiracy theories and talking about “they.” Now it’s active agenda laden conspiracy proselytization.
My problem is he uncritically accepts bullshit gecause he has no idea. When he was ypunger he was more willing to change.
Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn’t change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he’ll go completely unchecked.
There’s an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).
I honestly prefer the angle of “Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you”.
And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.
“Oh this person did one thing that isn’t permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I’m going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again.”
The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.
“Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad.”
“What, so people can’t make mistakes anymore? So much for the ‘tolerant left’.” And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.
Bro what?
Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new “woke” stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.
The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don’t care how cultish it is.
I hate the term “woke” because it’s wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.
The only people I hear talking about “woke nonsense” are white people who are upset that the world is changing.
if you still have spotify, please cancel it.
Done
Yes, I guess at this point Spotify is a pro-Nazi business.
What large corporation isn’t at this point?
Costco?
Does Joe Rogan own Spotify?
No, but they’re donating money to the inauguration and hosting Rogan, Shapiro, and others podcasters to, by Spotify’s own word, “tout the power of podcasts in the election”. It seems awfully cozy behavior.
Oh shit, thanks for the jnfo!
Which music streaming service do you recommend? (honest question)
I use Tidal but their servers kind of suck sometimes.
I’m quite happy with Tidal. Been using it for 6-7 months now.
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll have a look at them. Unfortunately none of them seem all that good. Spotify ist the only one that has a Linux app. Tide has a third party app, which is just the website inside electron. Even the Spotify app is just electron. I find it extremely shitty that these companies don’t even bother publishing electron apps. The ratings on the play store are also mostly bad. But I have to investigate that.
I know it’s fashionable to hate on Apple (justified or not), but Apple Music is very good. As a bonus, you can bundle it with Apple TV+, which have so many extremely good shows and movies.
Soulseek with listenbrainz
I’ve tried a few of them, all with family plans:
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Amazon Music: good track selection, awful apps. Horrid integration with Sonos.
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YouTube Music: I was using this for quite a while, my kids hated it because of the way the miniplayer worked. I found it frustrating because it would often play a YouTube rip of a song instead of the album track.
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Tidal: great choice, but I couldn’t get it to use gapless playback when casting to my receiver.
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Apple Music: we’re currently all using this one. Everyone is happy (Android, Chromecast, Sonos, iPhones, iPads, Car Play, and Android Auto). Finally.
Have you tried Napster? That’s not a joke in case you thought it might be
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YouTube premium has YouTube music, and it works well enough for me and my extended family
Yes cause google is SO much better
Goebbels say what?
That’s giving Joe way too much credit. Goebbels was evil, but he was also smart.
Spot on. There are so many good quotes from him and Goering. I’m not a Nazi weirdo or anything, but they’re just so… Relevant.
Goebbels:
A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.
Makes you think some leaders studied this a bit…
W: “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
Yeah I debated going with Göring, but I decided to pick the 'mouth of Sauron ’ angle. As Göring is also way more intelligent than Rogan… And a legit war vet.
The sad part of that analogy is, eventually, there is a wolf.
- Nazis exist.
- People have overused the term to its detriment.
- So when real Nazis appear, they can no longer be recognized.
The parable works for both groups: those who call foul in bad faith or too much & those that don’t listen to legitimate warnings. Both groups make mistakes in the end. The boy and the town lose their collective sheep to wolves.
I don’t know what evidence these people would need to see in order to have their world view challenged. I feel like if Musk was at a Nazi rally while talking about how apartheid benefited his family, people would still find a delusional way to not see what is so obvious.
The only advice I ever took seriously from Joe Rogan was when he was still just doing comedy on stage and literally said “I am an idiot. Nobody should listen to me.”
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My goodness, your post history…
Ive been going through this guys history for a bit and it is quite a ride.
Joe does not rely on facts he relies on his talent to hold conversation and trap people to agreeing with his opinions. He spews the biggest bunch of horse shit. I am from Southern Africa, I listend to a podcast where he was talking about cheetahs. Yeah he had no idea and talking garbage about how cheetahs behave. That’s when my suspicions about him were verified and I was like fuck this guy. Don’t support this douche.
He’s not hitler. He’s just a nazi.
I wouldn’t be shocked if Joe didn’t know that there were Nazis other than Hitler.
He’s the voice of a generation…
The generation that grew up breathing lead fumes.
So weird to see this guy now after watching him early in his career on news radio. Then watching fear factor from time to time.
When I think of Rogan now I remember the day Howard Stern was kicked off of clear channel. I guess the only thing that really bothered Republicans was that Howard wasn’t on their side.
Man. I would love to hear less from this guy. I block every goddamn channel on YouTube that has clips of this ass hat, and yet, YouTube keeps feeding me videos of him. What the everloving fuck?
So, what I’m hearing is, you engage with every video that features Joe Rogan, and now you’re surprised the algorithm is feeding you more Joe Rogan? /s 🤣 sorry, I couldn’t help myself
Ha. Good point. I need to just get off YouTube. But alas.
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Joe Rogan defending a billionaire for doing a overt nazi salute in public? Crazy. Who could have seen this coming.