What kind of things could a person carry to sell and how if they ever had to forcibly leave?
I read diamonds are worthless second hand.
Solid gold seems legit but not sure if coins or jeweler is best.
I saw something about getting gold chains to trade individual links in a emergency.
Are there any other good tips?
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Edit: Put in a Consolidation effort based on comments and side research
- Jewelery is good getting through customs as some countries have limits on what you can take over borders. Canada for example has 10k limit before you have to delcare and it is not clear if per person.
1.a) Always buy jewelry you plan to wear anyway because you will not get full value back.
1.b) Buy from reputable locations. Looks like Mene was a popular one.
- Gold coins are good but get normal ones like Eagles, Buffalo, or Maple as it’s easier to sell. Fancy ones are cool as collector item but will require more haggling.
2a) Bars are cheaper over spot but can be harder to sell overall
2b) Seems like libertycoin had consistent reviews.
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Cash is light but if your origin country currency dips then it’s worthless.
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Crypto requires you to have your wallet seed and importantly access to a pc and electricity.
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Make sure to have a backup skil/trade to live off of.
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Transferring money between banks can have legal issues.
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Printer ink.
I’m just kidding… listen to all the other smart people in this thread and not me.
Well I think ink is worth more per volume than blood.
Besides the utility of a go bag… having portable wealth can get you into trouble with the police or border crossing agents.
Civil asset forfeiture is a very real thing at border crossings. If you must take portable wealth have documentation about where it came from a available
Keep them receipts. Got it.
Receipts don’t matter if they (claim to) “suspect” the source of the money used to buy the gold in the first place.
Lame. Now I need paper copies of my bank statements ?
US police (including border agents) are stealing things from citizens. It doesn’t matter if you have bank statements or receipts if you are dealing with someone who will just steal your shit and claim legal immunity.
True, Well given the circumstances that could be very possible of corrupt d bags at the border.
Gold is still the preferred way of storing wealth in many parts of the world. You can just take gold bars with you which should have value anywhere.
Physically get them out might prove to be a challenge as the customs would definitely question your bags of gold.
There are actually limits to what you can bring into/out of a country.
Solid Gold anal beads are limited only by your courage.
Gold caps (teeth) painted with white enamel was the method of choice in the past.
You could also explore some crypto options like monero (XMR). It can be theft resistant if you set it up properly.
Edit: Mind replying to me instead of downvoting? What is the problem with crypto in this scenario?
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US: The way to effectively do thos is to open a series of accounts, in a tree structure, in countries that aren’t CRS compliant. Disperse the money into the structure. This will buy time, mitigating losses in the event of an asset freeze, likely not being caught until FACTA reporting to the IRS. Get the money out ASAP. There’s better methods if laws don’t matter.
If you are serious, learn a trade. They will always be in demand.
Knowledge is important, without it someone will be like my grandma working every job in town.
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Could you clarify customs me? Someone above mentioned I should have some recipes on those. I dk if that’s enough.
From the phrasing “fleeing a country” I imagine they want to circumvent border checks/wouldn’t be able to pass a border legally anyway?
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I know some people who largely do exist off grid, but in any case, for asylum claims it’s common to claim asylum after having already crossed the border of the target country without going through the checks. My friends who are asylum seekers have done that. I imagine in general you’d have less chance of being deported if you’re already living in the country vs trying to cross the border.
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It’s unclear. If they’re a trans person fleeing the US, they could still pass the border normally for now.
One of them stupidly expensive watches, that is worth more than a house, might be the best way to move value across borders. But you gotta find a sucker to buy it.
I think its like $10k for in or out of the US and items of value
Probably a good amount to start over. Grandma wad a refugee and came over with way less. Granted she had to work like uncle ruckus but she also couldn’t read either.
Heroin is quite compact, and always holds its value of you’re travelling from lower socioeconomic to higher.
Rofl fleeing country.
Let me get my brick first.
Silver coins maybe
Unironically this. And gold of course. Some things never change. Humans shelling out for shiny being one of them.
A few iphones, they tend to have a high demand and prices are stable for a few years.
This is not advice
What do you mean by “this is not advice”? You just gave an answer to their request for advice. Your comment is advice.
Nu uh
It only angers your intelligence officials if it is advice. “Not advice” means begging to stay friends. I advise staying friends, overtly, with NSA, to make sure that first they come for others.
Lol imagine selling them on the streets of Panama.
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Lol good luck carrying all that.
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I was thinking BJ walking out wolfestine with 100 tons of gold but yeah Leon got that dimensions case that’s volume not weight based.
Good usecase for bitcoin, bring your private key
Not sure why downvoted. It’s just memorizing a username and password.
Stupid question. How do you then get cash for that wherever you end up? Do you need a bank account?
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and the more a country bans bitcoin, the more there is craigslist or localbitcoin hookup sites.
There are random bitcoin/crypto ATMs in some major cities.
So probably there. Dunno if they require an account.If you use a decentralized trading platform like Bisq, you can even use face to face cash trades that keeps no logs of anything that ties to your identity.
Same as with everything else: you sell them to someone willing to buy
If you’re planning to leave with enough time, register a business or trust or something, transfer your money to a shell company, repeat as necessary then transfer it to the place you’re trying to go.
Use the tools of the people with money not the tools of people who get patted down for loose change by the tsa.
Has this worked before?
It’s one technique used to hide and move money all the time.
A different way is to buy some asset in the destination nation then sell it when you arrive. So like a bond or an etf share or something.
Extremely effective, happens all the time with amounts more than an average person can ever earn.
Why not just use something like Wise to hold your cash?
It’s a UK company but it says Money can only be delivered to a bank account. Unless I can just load it up like a prepaid card? Which is also a other idea I was considering.
You can get a card that is linked to your wise account. Not something I’ve done but it’s an option.
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