Ford’s office made the announcement Monday and said the government is also banning other American companies from provincial contracts going forward
🤭🤭🤭🤭
Ford is turning into a Canadian conservative which is great to see.
Too bad the Federal leadership is Pierre Pouilivre who is trying his best to imitate Trump and US style politics, a culture war to divide us NOT conservative policies and helping people…
Maybe this will wake up Canadian Conservatives to how toxic their party has become…
It’s just for election season
He called one so suddenly so he can be like this for as little as possible
There’s a reason PP is being so quiet
Ford is still an idiot he’s just a Canadian idiot first.
As much as I dislike Ford, I’m happy to see him doing his job properly for a change.
(Vote Green.)
This, in no way, makes up for Bill 212. But I’m glad to see that he’s at least united with the rest of the country on one goddamn thing.
I peeked into conservative subs, and people are cheering “owning” Canada for not treating us fairly.
…WTF? Has this been going on for a while?
Other than family with some Canadian ties, the only real sentiment I’ve heard before the inauguration was is that Canadians are overly polite, even among conservative family. The fentanyl thing seems… what?
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/canada-respond-trump-tariff-trade-war
Some conservative sub’s are being heavily moderated and comments are mass deleted. Some I notice the top comments gave very few upvotes and only two standing comments that agree
Keep in mind that a lot of “conservative” opinions are bought and paid for… They literally hire people to spread propaganda and stir shit up, around the world. For example, https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-ballingall-conservative-leadership-canada-proud-1.6433088
This is part of how we know it’s a cult they’ve formed. Probably for many on both a personal and a societal level, they’re getting isolated from friends and family who warn them, and will believe whatever lies they’re told by the cult leader scamming them. It will probably take some hard economic realities in their day-to-day lives for the ones who are capable to break out of the spell they’re under. And even then, there will likely be a cluster who double down repeatedly in the belief their “win” is just over the horizon, like the tragic BBBY investor cult.
I’d like to see how many American guns are used in Canadian crimes.
Most of them.
“When handguns involved in crimes were traced in 2021, they were overwhelmingly - 85% of the time - found to have come from the United States.” There were 8,047 victims of violent crime where a firearm was present in 2021 alone.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fighting-gun-crime-canada-has-an-american-problem-2022-07-27/
An argument I’ve seen is that the Canadian druglords are just that much better at getting drugs through the porous Canadian border without getting caught. Yeah I know it’s ridiculous but it’s so hard to fight this antilogic particularly with government data disappearing as we speak…
When entering the US, it’s the US border guards who are doing the checks. Perhaps they should improve their own border security.
That doesn’t make sense and isn’t even how borders work. Most countries are not concerned with what leaves but what comes in, because their laws stop at the border. The states certainly doesn’t care about all the guns leaving their country for Canada and Mexico.
I’ve only seen this recently myself, when the orange shit stain started mentioning trade deficits… but they seem to grasp that concept about as well as they do tariffs.
The fentanyl thing seems… what?
Like a blatant fucking lie?
This whole bullshit trade war is based on Trump lying. About everything.
Any conservative forum is an enforced circlejerk.
Has been for a decade.
Even broken clocks show the correct time twice a day…
Canada will be more efficient without the Musk.
The whole world would.
I will go out buy a case of Molson Canadian or Labatt’s.
As an American I support this message.
It is interesting to see that Canadian apathy has suddenly turned into a united stand for Canada.
I heard a 10 year old kid in the store yesterday, “Dad, can I get this? I checked , it is made in Canada”
It sucks it has come to this.
Doug Ford is a douche, but he is enough of a douche to not be politically correct in terms of relations with the USA.
I wish I was Canadian
Many of us act like Americans from 10 years ago. Be careful what you wish for.
I don’t, but that’s mostly because I like having very good Internet access and I’m European.
If I was USian, I’d wish I was Canadian.
What’s your Internet? I’ll you mine if your tell me yours.
I’m gigabit both directions and I could get as high as 3. I’ve heard they are testing 5 some areas. My 1gbit is around 90 of Canadian money. It’s fibre to my apt.
This is not typical for Canada.
It is in cities.
I’ll be honest, my experience is limited, but internet in Calgary is roughly equivalent to that of Los Angeles and is overpriced, but decent. Certainly not gigabits, but ~350/20 for ~$70/mo.
Bell offers 1.5 up/down for 85 in most non remote places in Quebec.
Maybe. But it’s all over the place on the west coast. Even the small towns got it before the bigger ones. One of the ISP has laid down fibre everywhere. And not like to the curb, to the house. Or in my case apt.
Your prices and speeds are far from what I hear being typical for Canada, but I’m paying 35 euros a month for 500 mbps symmetrical. Gigabit on the website is 73 euros. But that’s because I’m in an apartment built when the local monopoly was putting in fiber. Older buildings that were retrofitted later, as well as buildings that were built later, tend to have more providers available. There’s one that gives you 1 gig for 35 euros for the first year - and I know they’ll be amenable to keeping that arrangement later because you can just threaten to switch and they’ll cave. A third is giving out gigabit at 45 Euros for indefinite periods.
Do keep in mind, Estonia is plagued by a Telia monopoly. Other EU countries tend to have cheaper prices. Romania has so much competition, gigabit up/down is like 8 euros and I don’t think they offer speeds under 300 mbps apparently.
So a bit cheaper but speeds sound more or less on par. Do you have to deal with ports being blocked?
A friend got a killer deal on 3gbit/3gbit for 65. I do wonder what his after costs will be like. It was new customer BS.
Buddy of mine was in Romania, he had a killer deal on his internet. Not 8 euro killer but I think it was like 20, But we couldn’t play alot of games together the lag was just to bad :(
I suppose Internet speeds in Canada have really improved then. A decade ago people on reddit calculated that you’d be better off buying an external hard drive and driving to the US if you wanted to download large files in much of Canada. And the US isn’t exactly known for being great for broadband availability either
What is with the entire anglosphere being so much worse for internet?
It’s most of the web, and it’s geographically dispersed - other countries with good internet tend to have a language only spoken there so distances are shorter.
Do you have public free wifi? We have it in cities and every big establishment. Also in some nature areas as well
I’m not sure. I have fast internet at home. And 60gigs of 5g data. And don’t really go places.
I know at one point the town I live in put public free wifi down the main strip. But beyond that no clue. Don’t even know if it’s still there.
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Sucks because my profession doesn’t really exist in Canada, so I can’t bring anything of value if I try to immigrate there.
How does a profession not exist in Canada? Are you a 3rd party medical markup expert?
That’s an interesting statement. Feel free to not answer, but I’m curious what industry you’re in.
fluffer
Pretty sure they have fluffers in Canada too
I’m a Certified Surgical First Assistant. In Canada they use RNs. I guess I could get my RN, but I’d have to go back to school.
Edit: I worded that poorly. The role exists in Canada, but the actual profession of SFA doesn’t. I could be misinformed, but that’s what I’ve been told.
I see, that is interesting. Thanks!
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It is interesting to see that Canadian apathy has suddenly turned into a united stand for Canada.
American (and Canadian) politicians have fucked over Canada every step of the way for a long as I can remember but it was always done with the thinnest veneer of diplomacy to cover up the absolute disregard for an entire country’s population. This is the first time that a politician has been dumb enough to fuck over not only the people of Canada but also it’s oligarchs. Canada’s ruling class has decided it’s ok to revolt against our neighbour’s bad behaviour and so it’s being spun by the news and politicians as ‘Canadian Patriotism.’
edit: I see this is a bit controversial. I’m not saying that it is bad that, right now, Canadians are unified in identifying the bad guy and saying “no, you’ve gone to far.” I’m saying that we should have been saying this for years but our politicians, the rich people who direct them and the media companies that they own, have been actively stopping us up until now.
Nope. You can’t let trump bully us into becoming part of the USA. If this is what it takes for Canada to grow balls I’m all for it.
But can you allow trump to bully the US enough that some of us want to secede and join Canada?
I see Canadian apathy as a coping mechanism. We’ve been so fucked over in so many small ways over such a long timeframe that we can’t possibly give a fuck about so much of the bullshit that’s happening. We simply don’t have the energy to even pretend to care.
We’ll still show up to the booths and vote when asked (a lot of us will at last), but other than that, we’re expecting and un-phased that things are getting worse constantly. Whether that bullshit is coming from our government or something from a neighbor or whatever, doesn’t matter.
Our apathy should not be confused with either a willingness to take action when we feel strongly about something, nor an inability to take action.
I am Canadian, and every person I’ve met who can say the same has a lot of National pride. We’re known for being kind, and we’re proud of it. Push us the wrong way, and we’ll burn down the white house. (iykyk)
We need more French blood. Government tries to pull a fast one, they take to protesting immediately
Finally some populism I can get behind.
This is the way. Canada should keep making these kinds of moves to hurt the oligarchs, not the country they claim to be part of.
Musk has proven his goal is to interfere with politics on a global level, not just here in the US.
Yes but also, as an American who isn’t particularly well off (basking in the immense luxury of being middle class), my countryfolk need to learn what pissing off our allies gets us. My state voted for Trump, he was brazenly clear that he wanted to hurt our citizens and our allies to try to force people to do whatever he wants. We need to learn better
Isnt a contract something that you get in trouble for ripping up and not paying? Like that’s the definition of a contract
If the penalty is less than the increased tarrifs then they’re still saving money
Tarifs on what? This is about goods being purchased from a US company
What’s Elon going to do? March up there to Ontario and throw a tantrum on the steps of the capitol building? He can take them to court in Canada, but that would take years.
Yes, he will take them to court. He might take them to court in the US. Where was the contract signed?
If they have any assets in the US, those could get frozen. Or if they do business in the US, those transactions could get seized.
What’s the practical effect of the US seizing Canadian property? We’ve seen what proposed tariffs did, and that was galvanize a whole nation to call Trumps bluff. Do you think taking them to court and seizing assets is going to work better than the tariffs?
Greed
I’m sorry, I don’t understand exactly what you mean.
He would freeze the money because “look more money. I want money. I take money. I like money”
Its pretty simple
Depends on the contract and the clauses. We dont know what it says or how its worded.
Why wasn’t that published? Seems like the most important aspect of this story
The US gov’t can just punish them by tariffing them more! Problem solved! /s
I still don’t like Ford, but I do like that he was going to do this.
I don’t like that he delayed when the tariffs were delayed.
Honestly, these guys need to piss or get off the pot. Either do what you’re saying you’ll do, or make a swift exit from the job. Honestly.
Honestly, these guys need to piss or get off the pot. Either do what you’re saying you’ll do, or make a swift exit from the job.
Seriously. There’s no consideration for all the scrambling that businesses have to do, even when it’s just a threat.
Shit, he backed down when Trump postponed the tariffs.
It at least shows how piss weak these people are when it comes to feeding their disgusting greed.
Doug Ford is basically Julien getting out of jail and chasing Cyrus out of the trailer park.
And I’m all for it.
GOOD
And because the world doesn’t make sense, TSLA stocks are up while the rest goes in the red.
They will come down with a crash, I just know it. Just give it time…
That makes perfect sense. Musk’s companies are going to be swimming in free money, with lucrative US Federal government contracts
¿Porque no los dos?
On my watchlist, Tesla has the 3rd largest daily % drop right now.
Musk files lawsuit in…
Files a lawsuit based on what? The only thing he could possibly sue for would be if Ontario doesn’t pay whatever penalty clauses are in that contract.
The guy sued companies because they didn’t advertise on his website. I wouldn’t put trying to sue because of this past him.
You can always sue, but in most normal countries it just gets tossed out.
Haven’t been following the news much, have you?
America is the most pro litigation country in the world. This won’t fly anywhere else.
Canada isn’t the US. If Musk wants to sue Ontario, he has to do so in Ontario courts, which are obviosly not stocked with Trump supporters. Unless Ontario specifically breaks the terms of the contract, any case gets tossed.
Files a lawsuit based on what?
Based on the principles of SLAPP
Its a threat intended to intimidate the other party into backing down.
I see the pettiness of SLAPP, and I raise you the ultimate pettiness of Notwithstanding
SLAPP lawsuits aren’t particularly effective against governments. There’s nothing much to fear when you can just change the laws if things don’t go your way. And even Musk isn’t going to out spend the province of Ontario.
Of course, but that doesn’t stop Musk from trying to use his typical sabre rattling methods.
I hope he does. We handle lawsuits differently in Canada and he doesn’t own our judges or supreme court. I look forward to reading the judges decision lambasting him and his lawyers.
Canada should make its own version of Netflix, Amazon and Uber and watch American companies cry while they try to sue in Canadian courts and flounder.
Every country should do this. There’s no reason for a cut to go to Silicon Valley when you buy Canadian food from a Canadian restaurant delivered by a Canadian driver. Fuck em.
Netflix should not be making ad revenue when people around the world binge watch Kim’s Convenience (a Canadian production).
It’s about time we cut the US media mafia out. They need to see that the walled garden they’ve created around their profits is not impenetrable.
Netflix shouldn’t be getting revenue when you watch American-made shows either. Canada’s respect for US Copyright law was part of a trade agreement, which the US has violated
May I introduce you to CBC Gem?
CBC Gem is genuinely one of the best streaming services out there. And it’s free.
May I introduce you to torrents and Plex?
The post I was responding to was about steaming services, so I responded in-kind. Torrents have obviously always been an option, even in the heyday of streaming.
We have Crave owned by Bell Media, of course we don’t really care for our telecom companies either but least I think it’s a Canadian company.
What’s your laws say about contracts? Surely if they had a contract, they’d need to pay until the end of the contract, no?
What happens if I dont pay my rent in Canada?
