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I propose eveyone rename it to “Gulf of low egg prices”
This is so pathetic by Google.
They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.
Has nothing to do with bending the knee. The executive order literally changed the official name of the Gulf in the U.S. This situation is ridiculous, but it is the new U.S. government that you need to complain about, not the people implementing or deferring to their decisions.
Not legal
Obama renamed Mt. McKinley to Denali by executive order. Trump is using executive order to rename it back.
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”. (EDIT: Actually the naming appears to be unrelated to this. The drilling ban was specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs)
It’s all questionable use of executive order. But which party is going to step up and say “the last guy did it, but our guy shouldn’t be able to ignore checks & balances anymore”?
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.
I’d be very surprised if all laws/treaties cease to exist if you just rename the “counterparty”/location. Declare Mexico to be named South Texas, and laws no longer apply there?
Probably true.
But until a court actually steps up to say it, it’s the Wild West out there. And as soon as this gets shot down, another executive order will get wedged back in there to keep the rigs drilling.
EDIT: Apparently the naming had nothing to do with drilling. The drilling ban was already specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs
The difference is that it’s intentional waters and the International Hydrographic Organization is in charge of standardizing the names.
Actually very little of the gilf falls into international waters
A line joining Cape Catoche Light (21°37′N 87°04′W) with the Light on Cape San Antonio in Cuba, through this island to the meridian of 83°W and to the Northward along this meridian to the latitude of the South point of the Dry Tortugas (24°35’N), along this parallel Eastward to Rebecca Shoal (82°35’W) thence through the shoals and Florida Keys to the mainland at the eastern end of Florida Bay and all the narrow waters between the Dry Tortugas and the mainland being considered to be within the Gulf.
gilf
I’ve heard of MILFs… but i’ve only seen GILFs in Japan. That’s not the geography we’re discussing here.
The IHO proposes names which world nations may or may not use.
Such is the case with the “Southern Ocean” around Antarctica since the early 2000s, which is randomly recognized & not recognized by world nations.
It still requires Congress to pass legislation. I think they would have to leave the organization entirely or amend the resolution to join it and recognize it’s naming convention. The executive order is illegal.
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International bodies of water tend to be named by… International governing bodies.
That said, Google’s choices about which country to rely on has… Some real-world ramifications. Like the very… shall we say, “open to interpretation” border between India and Pakistan. Or, China and India’s border.
Do. Not. Comply.
Giving in is what gives them the power.
I absolutely will call out people who think it’s ok to just go along with the new fascist regime.
Pathetic. Hopefully the rest of the world doesn’t follow suit. Renaming it just for one of Trump’s ego trips is not a good reason.
The rest of the world obviously will not follow suit, but foreign companies selling maps in the US will have to comply, so it is just another exception that need to be handled. Naming and boundary disputes between countries have existed for years, and map makers just make enough versions to satisfy every country.
Actually, I’m unclear on that point - do foreign companies actually have to comply, or is it just limited to government communications and government-published maps (e.g. the USGS, etc.)?
Google are doing it to kiss Trump’s incontinent ass.
Only if the maps will be accessed from the US or sold in the US, and only for the US. This is my understanding of it anyways, the coming days will reveal more
Surely I am allowed to sell fictional maps? If I can sell a map of Middle-Earth, I can sell a map of a fictional world where a Gulf of Mexico exists.
Fuck off google🖕🏼x2
It’s giving big “freedom fries” energy. Makes sense when you think about how much of a wet dream the post-9/11 circle jerk was (is) for conservatives. They’re trying to recreate the same 2002 Republican, plastic-patriot distraction machine again.
I don’t think it’s gonna work as well because people could afford to eat Big Macs everyday back then. No joke, the economic situation is so dire I’m saving up to treat myself and my boyfriend to a fancy dinner date…
The dinner is at fucking Waffle House
I am so glad that I switched our app over to OSM last year.
Any chance there’s a place we could all start submitting bug reports about the incorrectly named body of water? Once the change goes into effect we should post that everywhere and see if we can swamp Google.
They’ll regex those bug reports so fast it won’t even matter.
It’s my understanding that the executive does not have the authority to unilaterally change official geographic names. As of my writing this, the name “change” has NOT been adopted by the United States government. Congress granted that authority to the US Board of Geographic Names in 1890. Unless accepted by the US BoGN, it changes nothing. I suppose Congress could rename it if they passed a bill that the president signed into law overriding that authority for that specific case, but until they did so, it’s not official.
Here is the link to the US Geographic Names Information system page showing the current official name of the Gulf of Mexico: https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-domestic/public/search/names/558730. Note the list of accepted variant names, which still doesn’t include “Gulf of America”.
Google are saying here that they will only change it on maps if it’s made official by the US Government, which has not happened yet. That’s why they haven’t made any change yet, and won’t unless Trump gets the US BoGN to do his bidding.
Edit: well that didn’t take long. They already made made the change.
This is a good reminder and sanity check. Things this big are rarely easy to change.
Except they’re waiting on bended knees aren’t they? They’ve show who their daddy is by announcing it.
Google made an issue of this by officially commenting rather than silently conducting business as usual (which would be changing the name when the govt source does).
They’re trying to have their cake and eat it, I guess? Theoretically this would appease X viewers and Trump (who would move onto the next trending controversy), while stating that they are following usual procedure?
That’s my read on it too. Trying to have it both ways, and not exactly succeeding at it.
I want off this ride.
Yeah, I’m with you.
This timeline took a serious nosedive somewhere around 2010. I’m no longer sure think we’re pulling out of it…
Now US can start claiming islands just like China does with the South Sea
Time to stop using Google
Time to ditch Maps then.
Open Street Maps needs more contributors!
Been playing the StreetComplete game, which is very much Pokemon Go but helping OSM data.
OSM unfortunately doesn’t seem public transit friendly at all. I did a quick glance over some of the documentation and it mentioned:
Whilst OpenStreetMap is probably not the place for full timetable information, adding information about public transport infrastructure and services to the map means that we can provide basic routing services.
Timetables are a must if you realistically want to use it for public transit. Currently it just tells me to walk to my destination for an hour and a half if I select public transportation. This is the main thing keeping me from using OSM.
Well, the ball is in the court of the public transport agencies, then! While OpenStreetMap cannot be expected to accept any and all kind of geographic data imaginable, OSM is meant to serve map data that can supplement other data sources and services.
I’m in Finland, and there’s at least a couple of Web services that do long distance bus/rail/plane route planning, all using OSM. Our municipal bus schedule service, mobile app and the bus stop displays have been using OSM for over a decade.
Awesome! That’ll give me something to do on my runs.
Whoa, I did not know that existed. Time to give OSM some loving back.
Humanity is a joke.
Can’t imagine wanting to work for big tech these days lol. These companies had insane reputation in the 2010s. People thought working for Google was like working in willy wonka’s chocolate factory. They really squandered their brand.
Wildly, people still think that about working at Apple, for now. I do see that changing slowly too though.
“Don’t be evil”
What about we be evil anyway?
i think when they rebranded as alphabet, they repealed that corporate philosophy.
Turns out evil is profitable.
Sadly though this was never going to be avoided, sure they’re leaning hard into conservative cult nonsense, but they were still on a downword optics trajectory. Its impossible not to have this happen in capitalism, it will always be inevitable that enshitifcation happens to milk profit from anywhere it can, and that will always look bad.
Vote to change it to Gulf of Luigi
I support this.
But we should probably at least have a conversation with Mexico about it, since something like half of their country borders it. IDK, I failed geography.
