Welp time to switch to 100% oat milk
Oat milk is great imo. Planet Oat extra creamy is the best available where I’m at.
Depending on your patience, you can make your own for super cheap. It’s roughly 100g oats to 1000g water, with 20-50g neutral oil, and a tiny bit of guar and xanthan gums. Blend the oats and water for a minute, strain, then add the gums and oil and blend again. Sweeten to taste. Maybe ten minutes max.
If you can get it easily, adding amylase enzymes (blend of alpha, beta and gamma works best) after blending, warming to around 140, let sit for 30 minutes and then raise to 180 for 5 will increase the sweetness and keep it from getting gloopy. You can get them pretty cheap from a brewing supply store. It’s how they make commercial oat milk, and it’s how they can say “no added sugar” and still have it be sweet.
What does neutral oil mean? Just any vegetable oil like olive oil or canola oil etc?
One that doesn’t have a strong taste, canola yes, olive no.
An oil without a flavor. Olive oil is an example of a not neutral oil since it imparts a flavor to the dish.
Corn, vegetable, soybean, canola and peanut are good examples. No one would drizzle a little corn oil on a plate to dip bread in. :)
They also can tolerate higher temperatures, so you can use them in cooking a bit easier.
Yeah see this is the thing.
Looking at the ingredients of oat milk it’s often as little as 2% oats.
That checks out looking at these ingredients… 4/5ths of the oats are strained out.
That means it’s really oily unsugary water with a whiff of oat.
What is even the point of that.
Also, fun fact… the xanthan gum seems to kill the creme on a nice cup of black coffee. So a dish of oat milk in your long black is… undesirable.
The “point” is that it’s a tasty beverage.
Why on earth would you measure the quality of a beverage by how diluted the solids are, or how much filler gets strained out?“Milk is just watered down cheese! It’s 87% water! What’s the point of it?”
Coffee hardly has any coffee in it, you throw away most of the bean.
Don’t even get me started on broth.The fat content is equal to or lower than the fat content of typical dairy based creamers, which is also where the sugar content comes from. A mild quantity of fat is required for the creamer to have a good mouth feel and have a degree of “coating” effect. The gums help keep the fat in suspension since I lack a homogenizer like they use on milk, as well as increasing the viscosity in a way that’s imparted by protein in milk.
If you want to you can just eat the result without filtering. It’s called oatmeal. It’s still watered down though, so I might recommend toasting them and having a nice dry oat bar to go with your puck of dehydrated milk.
In general, I’d recommend against putting any sort of creamer in your black coffee. It tends to make it no longer black coffee.
I don’t personally find issue with any of the emulsifies doing anything to coffee I don’t like, but if you’re exploring there are plenty of others. I’ve had good luck with konjac in a blend with guar, xanthan, and methylcellulose, but two of those are less likely to be in the baking aisle at the store. The more you use the smaller the proportional quantity you need, since they have a synergistic effect. Less than a gram total combined weight of the four previous ones makes a consistency like heavy cream. Great for ice cream base.Thanks for the tip on making this. We typically have almond milk in the fridge as it’s easy to find, but it sure is not cheap. Maybe taking a stab at making oat milk to taste might be a fun experiment.
We don’t really have any milk in our fridge except for the very rare recipe. Our house is vegetarian, nearly vegan. I don’t really consume almond milk directly if you will - I drink my coffee black - I’ll use it with the rare bowl of cereal I might have. Now I’m wondering how homemade oat milk might work out.
I’ve never been a big fan of milk anyway - and that extends to alternatives - and same with the rest of my family, so even something tasty is probably not going to get used up very quickly ( a half gallon of almond milk will often be in our fridge for 2 weeks or more ) - how long will this keep?
This will not last super long unfortunately, since it’s not pasteurized. Your best bet is to treat it like fresh orange juice.
Using it for cereal, you’ll want to get the brewer enzymes. Oats have a carbohydrate in them that gets gloopy after a not long time without them. In coffee or tea it’s less noticeable because of the stiring, but cereal I fear might be lessened.
I’m not personally vegan, but lactose is mean to me. Trying to make a lactose free ice cream led me to find that the vegan community has suitable ice creams, but a lot of them feel like a compromise, so the challenge of it became the focus of the science-ing I went down.
As a result it’s best suited to making ice cream and popsicles (needs tweaking for that purpose), and alone is more of a cream consistency. For a usable quantity for cereal, you might cut the oats in half-ish (5-7% of water weight), reduce the oil to no more than 10g/1% and keep the gums the same. The recipe scales well, so you can make a half liter just as well. Although with how cheap oats are it’s almost not worth it to bother.
Hmm, I don’t find it “tasty” myself and just kind of assumed it was milk’s ugly-cousin substitute. Why else would it be oat “milk” if not intended as a substitute? It never occurred to me that someone would drink it as a stand alone beverage because… there’s much nicer drinks around than oily water.
There’s a cafe here that doesn’t serve cows milk so they offer oat milk to everyone that asks. “Nah mate I’m good just poor some oil in there that’ll do”.
We don’t really do “creamers” here. It’s either cow’s milk, cream, or this type of vegetable oil based substitute “milk”.
Also just to make sure you’re aware, all coffee is black coffee before you add “creamer”.
It’s called oat milk because English has called any white liquid milk longer than we’ve had the notion that milk only comes from mammals. In some recipes from the 12th century dairy milk is actually the poor man’s substitute for almond milk.
I’m confused about your obsession with the oil content. Do you only use skim or non-fat milk?
Most people like some fat in their milk because it makes it have a better mouth feel and to be less watery. But, as you mentioned, your tastes are different from other people’s and you sometimes don’t like things that other people do, so it’s fine if you don’t like fatty milk.It never occurred to you that people buy and consume a beverage because they like it? What an interesting world you live in.
all coffee is black coffee before you add “creamer”.
You don’t say. What wonders will they think of next.
It’s called oat milk because …
Nonsense. It’s called oat milk because it sells better if people think of it as a milk substitute. “Tasty Oat Drink” just doesn’t have the same appeal.
I’m confused about your obsession …
I’m “obsessed” with the oil content because most people sipping oat milk lattes think that it’s the nectar lovingly squeezed from plump little oats by italian virgins while sunning themselves by the seaside.
It never occurred …
It never occurred to me that anyone would enjoy drinking tasty oat drink.
You don’t say …
Sorry it’s just that your earlier witty retort seemed based on a misconception regarding this particular nuance of beverage preparation. My bad.
Anyhow, feel free to have the last word in this tawdry little tete-a-tete but for my own part I think I’ll leave you to appreciate your oil based milk substitute.
Your comment is great, equally snarky and informative. I appreciate it and got a couple giggles out of it, too!
Thanks for taking the time for both of your comments. I’ve saved them for the future as I can no longer drink dairy and not a fan of how much sugar some of the commercial oat milks have
No problem! I’ve been lactose intolerant for a while but over the past several years it’s gotten a bit more … Dramatic. The lactose free ice cream always seems to have a funny taste to me, but I tried a oat milk ice cream and was really surprised how creamy it was.
I have an ice cream maker so I started doing some science at making my own. There are worse hobbies, since even the failures are almost always edible. (I did make one with the “fun” property of being nearly identical in texture at every temperature. Scooping some into a hot pan and having it crisp but remain soft is… Unnerving)If you make some, feel free to let me know how it goes! I’d be happy to give pointers to push it in a direction you prefer, or just have another data point for what works. :)
Horchata, aka chilled rice drink, is only like less than 1% rice! It’s mostly water and sugar, with some spices!
What’s the POINT?!?!
Spoiler: horchata is delicious, and basically the same thing as oatmilk, when you get down to it.
One of the few things I really miss about living in L.A. was all the little agua fresca stands where I could get horchata. And cheap.
You wonderful human being, thank you.
Let them. Darwin wins.
And when more parents start giving their kids raw milk, what then?
Forcing kids to eat dangerous food is child abuse.
Unfortunately it’s not that simple. Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it’s more likely to mutate and spread. It’s never the risk-accepters that suffer most. It’s always the sick, the poor, the very young and the very old, and the healthcare workers who suffer. The people who refused to get vaccines or take even basic precautions with COVID killed a lot of people, while the vast majority of those assholes survived.
Avian flu and other viruses can potentially spread from cows to humans, where it’s more likely to mutate and spread.
Every single person that contracts the HPAI H5N1 virus is a few billion chances for the virus to mutate and generate a strain that is able to spread from person to person. These people are throwing dice over and over and when they come up snake eyes, we are all going to lose.
But then the fault is obviously DEI, because it made the birds gay or something…
A coworker of mine (African American) lost three cousins to COVID. Minorities are less likely to have good healthcare or the resources to pay out of pocket when necessary. I’m mostly on team Darwin too but I agree it’s not just the idiots that will get hurt. The way things are going schools might even start teaching that raw milk isn’t that harmful.
Unfortunately this wil presumably only be American conservatives.
Will they die?
The second best outcome is suicide by stupidity.
The best is they stop being stupid.
Ehhhhh…
Sorry but how the fuck are insurance companies OK with this? They hold extreme amounts of power over the US. They are going to have to do ridiculous amounts of payouts for hospital bills.
How the fuck are people’s life saving surgeries getting denied at pre-approval, but they are not denying people’s coverage for fucking drinking raw milk??
Fascists always turn on each other.
Maybe if this takes off raw milk will show up on health questionnaires or be in the fine print as a pre existing condition
They don’t pay out the bills lol. I imagine they’ll work on dismantling the ACA/“Obamacare.” Insurance will cover nothing.
You haven’t heard? AI is going to automatically deny all those claims, problem solved.
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Same as every other money minded entity, if they speak out they’ll be shouted down or destroyed. Ethics don’t matter, number go up.
they can just outright deny them im guessing, the consumer bought it, knowingly.
And theyll somehow blame Dems
Bobby Singer spitting wisdom.
RIP Bobby.
I saw raw milk sold at school. Didn’t understand it. What’s the difference? If I gave you two cups with raw and pasteurized, could you tell the difference?
You can’t tell the difference, and that’s part of the problem. One has been cooked slightly to kill pathogens and the other could contain deadly pathogens.
At least this time the disease will stay confined to the stupid.
Isn’t it contagious
Tuberculosis is also carried in unpastuerised milk. The US currently has the largest outbreak in its history.
Yeah, in Kansas City. From what I’ve been able to track down, Patient Zero came back from a recent trip to the Federated States of Micronesia. Current infected rate reported hit 66 people, but that might be higher.
If you’re in the Midwest, brush up on symptoms to look for, and stay away from Nursing Homes and elementary schools if you’re vulnerable.
You can at least get vaxed for tb.
Bird flu? Human-to-human either isn’t happening, or is extremely rare, can’t remember.
For now. If it mutates to become more contagious without becoming less deadly, that becomes an everyone problem
Stupidity? Based on the election result, I would say yes.
That’s not how diseases work.
The good news is that drinking raw milk will disproportionately kill conservatives. Every dead conservative is a net win for society.
Oh nooo… Don’t drink dangerous things against advice
Pro tip for the MAGAs: raw milk tastes much better when the cows have brucellosis and TB.
You know what, just let it happen. I’ll just do my best to stay away from any milk for four years. We’ll see how things turn out afterwards.
Switch to almond
I like soy better
Oat is GOAT for coffee
They are voracious readers and consume a large amount of testing data, let the option be there, they are capitalist so the market will cull the product if its not wanted/needed.
voracious readers
Uh. yeah of facebook misinformation
Hey now, you also need to know they listen to vloggers on youtube and twitter too, see they are using a wide variety of sources, and I am sure they checked their sources on the subjects.
/s?
I am just going on what they say. They have done the research
So have they told you what sources they have read?
You know they never can cite them, they just say they do. I always found it odd, but I always thought maybe the teachers were failing them in comprehension and citations. But who am I to think they would bold face lie on the internet to make themselves seem like something they had every chance to be but just couldnt get off their ass to be that.
I drank milk from the tank and cream is the best. However, I still prefer pasteurized milk. If the MAGAts want to drink raw milk, let them and watch the green apple splatter flow.
But I can still get the pasteurized stuff, right?
Not for long.
Regulators Say It’s Dangerous.
Not for long, they won’t, because they won’t be allowed to.
Because they won’t exist.
