Internment Camps already?
Immigration detention centers have been around for a while now. Virtually all of them ran by private corporations. People rail against private prisons but they make up a tiny tiny minority of prisoners. Over 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned.
So we’re going to throw millions of people into camps so that a few corporations can extract a ton of public taxpayer money. They’re also gonna stay there for years because it’s logistically impossible to move over 10 million people quickly.
I didn’t think fascism would happen again my lifetime. But I guess here we are
Moving them is expensive, just letting them die in poor conditions or working them to death is far cheaper… Seeing how it happened yet?
exactly. it escalates over time as things become normalized.
if there are 10 stages we’re like at stage 3
in 2016 we were at stage 1. back then, Trump wouldn’t dare have said “immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country” - that wouldn’t have had a good reception back then. too on the nose. but you start with more subtle things and slowly you shift the overton window of what is and isn’t socially acceptable
it’s a treadmill and we’re jogging
Expanding a camp that’s already been there for over 20 years, yes.
I knew the concentration camps were coming, but just after ten days? Holy shit
Rather unfortunately, the mass deportations was one of the most popular parts of Trump’s platform. Everybody knows mass deportation comes with concentration camps. It’s not that his voters are unaware of it, they actively love it!
The faster they move the more they can get done before their opponents can mobilise resistance.
I would say that so far, there appears to be much less public resistance to Republican policies than in previous years. The Democrats appear to be at sea. The left’s working class base is split. Public institutions are too busy protecting their turf, making gestures at cooperating with the new world order rather than trying to resist.
It feels like last time there was an assumption that
Trump and MAGA politicsa criminal dictator and fascist politics were a blip or aberration from the norm, now there’s an acceptance that they’re institutionalised.Trump and MAGA politics
Maybe the language we use to describe them is itself normalising and pacifying. Like calling a Nazi salute a “hand gesture.”
I would suggest “a criminal dictator and fascist politics” as a substitute in your sentence to provoke an acceptable, proportionate reaction.
I like it.
He is not quite a dictator yet. Let’s call him an aspiring dictator, to make it clear that action can still prevent it from getting that bad.
Honestly, I was expecting them in less time. Like 2-3 days in.
If these people are “the worst of the worst” then we already have infrastructure to deal with that. Gitmo is for extrajudicial punishment that should have been outlawed decades ago. “Thanks Obama”
Obama did not put anyone in gitmo
Obama had a campaign promise to close Gitmo and then didn’t. It was made difficult by Republicans, but it was still just sort of abandoned because it would have cost political capital and they didn’t want to have that fight.
He actually tried though. Don’t come for me on the details, I don’t remember
Congress.
But he did take it from a couple hundred prisoners down to about 50. Of those 50, something like 20 were cleared for release, and the remaining 30 were going to trial for various terrorism charges (helping plan 9/11, for example).
Thats about the end of what I remember though.
Yeah, but that’s not perfect, so its unacceptable and you’re liberal scum if you think otherwise.
America’s first camp…in 83 years.
Thanks conservatives.
It won’t be the last
Fucking hell. We were sooooooo close to finally releasing the poor souls caught up from 9/11 shit stuck here. I’m so fucking disgusted by the ruling class in this country.
Not disgusted enough to mobilize against them though.
That doesn’t appear to be the case
https://www.404media.co/declassified-cia-guide-to-sabotaging-fascism-is-suddenly-viral/
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Did you read the book? Lots of that is actively being done. Are you struggling to find reports of it? I can recommend some further resources if you need
Mark my words- queer people will be next.
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Some of us are able to keep more than one concern in our heads at a time.
So no, I’m not going to ignore the oppression of queer people just because you don’t want their existence brought up.
Also, you do know that some of those immigrants are queer, right? Did you assume they were all cishet?
100%. If you look at the language they’re using to describe trans people in their EOs it’s clear as day where they’re heading and considering they’ve begun holding trans people’s passports indefinitely- they don’t want us escaping.
Someone in another thread is literally telling me queer people have nothing to fear because, according to them, nothing serious has happened yet.
And they and others give me shit for getting my gay daughter out of the country because I’m supposed to put Palestinians (who I work my ass off to help) ahead of my own child. Which, and I’m not sure they understand this, is neglect and generally frowned upon by child protective services.
There are definitely others that seem to participate in these discussions with the sole goal of upsetting people wearing a veneer of of leftist politics while lacking any seeming empathy. I tend to doubt their motives when they seem to only have compassion for some and not all
How did you get out of the country if you don’t mind me asking? I have no idea where I would start if I needed to leave. I’d prefer to go to a blue state if I could but of course that might not be an option. Also do you miss living in the US?
I am lucky because of this: https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-before-1983
However, we are living on my savings until I get a job and my wife had to stay behind for now. My daughter can be here on a travel visa for six months and we will be out of money in three. I need a job that makes at least £29,000 a year to get a family visa for the two of them.
We’ve also only been here since the inauguration, so I am not all that homesick so far (I miss my wife and our dogs). Also I am just in awe of how nice and helpful people are here. I really didn’t realize the exact extent of American self-entitlement asshole culture until we got here and everyone has been friendly and helpful. Even the drunks.
That does sound nice. Hopefully you’re able to find some work and you’re able to get the rest of your family soon!!
I hope so, thanks!
I don’t get it, what does you moving to the UK have to do with helping Palestinians?
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Apparently you should care more about Palestinians than your own queer child because there is no genocide of queer people in America even though it’s literally already started… but it’s not like those people actually give a shit about Palestinians. They’re just a pawn in their need to berate strangers on the internet.
I pointedly ask them what they are doing about the genocide since I work my ass off contacting politicians. It’s very clear that not only have most of them not done shit, most of them have never even talked to a Palestinian.
They also don’t seem to realize (or maybe care) that there are queer Palestinians. In America. At risk right now. Also in Palestine. But I guess they’ll be just fine.
Ah, the usual bad faith crap where some people decide that one particular tragedy out of the thousands happening all over the world right now is all you should care about. They’re just like the single-issue voters that helped Trump get elected.
Very much that, yes.
HomosexualityQueerdom is aJewishimmigrant plot againstGermanythe US.It’s practically fascist mad libs.
The path to that easier than you might think. Just get the propaganda mill talking about Thai ladyboys and black-market hormones a bit. They love little talking points that are are rooted in preconceptions and tiny slivers of half-truths that they can contort to fit their agenda…to expand on and then justify their actions.
They are fun to pick out. The other day Trump claimed that the ominous “they” were sending water directly to the ocean to save an endangered fish instead of to LA to fight fires.
That endangered fish is called a Delta Smelt. “Delta”, as in a river delta, as found at the end of a river…you know, that thing that carries said water to the ocean.
Trans women specifically, the others are safe for a few more years then it will be their turn.
😢 I’d guess trans women and all unhoused people could be the first casualties, potentially involving cheap prison labour within the US to replace externally detained migrants. Why is it so easy to think of worst case scenarios but so hard to think of ways to stop this?
Democrats could actually campaign on healthcare for all, living wages and stop trying to restrict gun ownership for the working class. But here we are. But then they’d have to actually help poor people instead of trapping them in cycles of dependency, and tax the rich. There’s a reason they shut Bernie down. Their owners don’t like those things.
I meant before elections come (and that’s assuming they don’t find a way to undermine those as well). All I can think of is how Michelle Obama quoted MLK Jr. and said to honour his legacy by getting involved in local community, honouring the other important day of the year that it was, rather than commenting on the inauguration directly.
As an added note, they deported multiple children to Colombia the other day. Half the people they’ve arrested in specific areas have zero criminal records. Some are even US citizens. This is not for immigrants, this a Latino concentration camp.
I know two people first hand who have been here for over 30 years with no criminal records who are being detained. These are the people being sent to Guantanamo.
Source on citizens being rounded up?
Some are even US citizens.
Some are indigenous.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
“It’s too kind to say it’s racism or discrimination. It’s disrespect for humanity.”
Oh I see what he is doing here, screw over 30.000 people, then send them over to their biggest enemies to learn a how to take revenge. America collapse soeedrun
Are they just reviewing all the accusations they made about Democrats over the past few years and just using that as a template for what they want to do.
Wasn’t trump one of the Obama critics demanding him to close it?
But it’s OK because it’s Trump doing it not Biden.
Yes, but that’s because he apparently wanted it cleared out so that American citizens could be “accidentally” put there instead.
Just a random selection of 30,000 people or for an actual reason?
Well, it’s somewhat color dependent.
Sooo…not orange, then?
And then the US said to Germany, “We too, can do Auschwitz.”
They think the problem with Auschwitz is that people could see it.
So trump is going to build “housing” for 30.000 people, plus possibly hundreds of guards, who all need food, guards will need actual housing with maybefamilies who will need recreation too…
Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…
Now make this for the 20 million or so, and you get to understand why the US will be bankrupt and over 4 years from now if this idiots continues this
Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…
Doesn’t matter if the country goes broke. Something like 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned. This whole thing is going to funnel hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars of taxpayer money right into the pockets of wealthy shareholders.
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Can’t be seen trying to lower emmisions by having shorter flights to their concentration camps, that is teetering dangerously on the edge of woke… probably, it’s hard to nail down where their version of woke is.
Yeah but at least last time, Germany got some rail improvements and highway funding out of the whole thing. Silver lining, I suppose.
We can’t even get that if they are getting flown off to gitmo.
Don’t worry, there will be camps in Texas too.
There are camps in Texas
They might be able to escape in Texas. Trump’s cronies know this.
On US soil people have the right to legally challenge their imprisonment.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/10/timeline-20-years-of-guantanamo-bay-prison
It was a national embarrassment when Bush opened the prison, it was a national embarrassment when successive presidents didn’t close it, and it’s a national travesty that Trump is going to use it to imprison 30,000 people that haven’t even been suspected of committing a crime.
Speed running the third Reich over here. Has the doctor given him bad news?
Any% nazi run WR incoming
If Trump dies, you’ll have Vance , who is arguably worse, because his brain isn’t riddled with cheeseburgers and adderall, but regardless of who is wearing the crown, it’s people like Stephen Hitler Miller who is running project 2025 and putting the ideas in Donnie’s head.
