there is nothing forcing you to keep using google though
For now
Somehow I’ve never come across any of these things in my day to day. I hope I can casually avoid them for a long long time.
That’s how it is. I never even set up Gemini when my phone updated. I never used google assistant either.
Is it bad that I stopped using Google docs and plan on moving to OpenOffice instead?
Why would that be bad?
I’d recommend libreoffice, because oracle also kinda sucks.
Every Google Drive action I do now is shifted over 20% for ✨
Or I ask to go to Costco, and where Assistant previously would route me to the nearest one, Gemini sends me to one 80 miles away
I love the dedicated piracy folder lmao
That’s my biggest gripe with Gemini; it’s not a proper replacement for Google Assistant and yet it’s still treated as such.
Feels like Google took at least two steps back when it comes to Gemini on Pixel devices…
This is probably the most ‘old man yells at cloud’ thing about me but I hate voice assistants and they have yet to work consistently enough to be worth my time.
It is completely insane to me that something simple like “Add ____ to the grocery list” has worked and stopped working nonstop for years now. How hard is that to get right? Cannot believe such a simple action is so inconsistent.
Nah dude you’re right. I have mine disabled and nuked as best as possible on my phone. I have no nest. No Google assistance puck. No Alexa. My home is not a smart home. There is a gun and a bottle of wild turkey next to my printer, and sometimes I make threats to it to ensure all my machines stay in line.
There is a gun and a bottle of wild turkey next to my printer
I wouldn’t leave a gun in the printer’s reach. The fucking thing will murder you in your sleep. Those things are the work of the devil and every day they continue to exist is a day too long.
I think a lot of that has to do with that Google used to be a company with engineers wanting to make the best software.
Now it’s an ad agency that happens to have some software to make money, and they don’t care about the software anymore. Money is not only bottom line, it’s all the lines. You see the results in the quality of their software, it’s all gone down hill.
My Google smart speaker used to integrate with my shopping list app. The loss of that integration and other features makes it basically a glorified white noise machine now.
Google was “cool” 2 decades ago… or before they combined both monetization (through ad) with power (through monopoly) they inexorably transformed EXACTLY to Microsoft the same way Facebook/Meta did the Google playbook.
Those huge tech corporations are pulled by the market to follow the same, sadly successful, strategy playbook and keep no uniqueness.
Google has been the new Microsoft for years already but through careful marketing consumers somehow believe they aren’t.
When the leaked internal video came out about Google’s real vision, everyone said it is fake. It does not look that fake now.
Which video was this?
Thanks! I’ll give this a watch.
Google is slipping. Duck duck go is a better search engine. There are better mail systems as well. Meta is done as well.
Some of my non-techie friends were complaining about how rubbish Google search is now and I suggested Duck Duck Go. They couldn’t get past the name. I know it’s based on some childhood game in the US but it makes no sense to anyone here in the UK.
So back to the search engine with the serious and sensical name “Google” then?
No, that’s not “back”, which implies they left. That’s just staying with what you’re used to, what is normal to you.
Google has become established enough that the name has obtained a sense in itself. When switching to something else, the new tool has to convince in a way that the previous one doesn’t. Often, function isn’t enough if the form doesn’t fit.
Wanted to say it feels like Microsoft doing same thing with Copilot, but at least you can disable that. At least on enterprise plans, home / small business apperently is a different story now.
I wasn’t able to disable Copilot in Office without threatening to cancel via my account management page. It’s only then that they give you the option to fall back to the originally priced plan that specifically doesn’t include Copilot. And even after that, Copilot apparently won’t be removed from my locally installed copies of the Office apps until my plan renewal date in April! I’m pretty sure I’m gonna use the time to transition all my documents to LibreOffice and fully cancel my MS Office plan before it renews.
We don’t “get” tech anymore. Tech happens to/at us. We are already getting AI generated ads. Where are the AI based ad blockers?
They’d be useless. Unless you trained it yourself there would 100% be a whitelist you couldn’t see, or it’d be gobbling up all your data.
Already happened. It died because it turns out the AI was funneling all of your browsing data to the servers running the AI instead
GPT-AdBlocker for Chrome promises to block all ads, including ads in videos - gHacks Tech News - https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/19/gpt-adblocker-for-chrome-promises-to-block-all-ads-including-ads-in-videos/
I just tried it for the first time. I like how it tried to educate me
I didn’t like the verbosity overall
It felt dumb that using it via android studio it didn’t have any capacity. It didn’t know I was building for android. It couldn’t implement any of its own suggestions and a lot of the suggestions were incomplete.
After asking chatgpt, Gemini and deepseek I still can’t get Godot to build an android export that contains the sqlite shared object accessible to the code.
I’m losing my mind.
They’re laying down the road and try to get you to use it. The toll booths come soon enough when every alternative gets blocked as much as possible.
Problem with Gemini is that is sucks badly in comparison with more mature solutions.
It really is terrible. I’ve tried a dozen times to get it to do anything that the free version of GPT can do…fails every time on the few things it even tries.
I tried to ask it how I could remove it, Gemini told me that in order for me to help it I needed to active some of the “smart” features I didn’t have active on my account, essentially helping do the opposite. It follows the ever increasing practice of trying to shove basically illegal behavior into “it’s just the algorithm, bro, there was no intent!”
All of it is. Or pushing copilot into all Microsoft products like anyone is using this shit.
Every time I’ve opened an Office app this week it has given me some copilot welcome screen and opened it’s own sidebar. I tried to use it to proofread a word doc and got prompted to purchase a license. So they basically just filled 1/3 of my screen with an ad.
I’m being serious with this comment. In no way have I felt like Google has forced Gemini on me. I barely notice it exists. Can anyone give me examples?
for months, every time i used google assistant to set a timer, and every few days without asking, i got push messages to use gemini instead of assistant on my phone. there is no way to disable those messages - they only go away if you have at least once activated gemini. btw, assistant functions like the timer DO NOT WORK if you use gemini; it’s really great service to push your costumers to install a feature to take away a feature that is used daily.
I actually did activate it to test that now, because I thought there is no way they’d leave that out… And it works! It set me a timer.
But yeah, that’s annoying. Very.
My job uses the Google suite and it feels like it’s gotten a bit excessive recently. Just this week I have gotten multiple popups on my work email and in Docs and Sheets. It has been present in Chat for a few months.
Interesting. I don’t use Gmail (unless I have to) or the Google office suite. Makes sense.
Same here tbh. I havea university google suite account and I’ve never noticed it there. I also use Google messages, and there was a button for it by default, but it was easily disabled.
They’ve stuffed it into every page in Google cloud and workspace.
I tried it in sheets one time and it literally made up fake data for my analysis. Never trusting that again.
I accidentally clicked on their stupid popup one time and then got emails over and over welcoming me to Gemini. I don’t even have Google assistant installed.
Ah, I don’t use most of Google’s services, though I do use an Android device. I think my most used service is Drive. I haven’t seen it on there.
It “messaged” me in Google Messages today introducing itself and how it could summarize text messages on my phone for me
if a human sends me a text long enough to benefit from a summary that’s a human that is being removed from my contacts.
Gemini ‘messaged’ me in google messages introducing itself a couple months ago. Just appeared like a normal text conversation with any other contact, but as soon as you click on it you’re presented with a wall of T&Cs.
Deleted the ‘conversation’ and it’s stayed gone; though there’s an option for it in settings.
The only other place I’ve see it is an on-screen reminder every time I use Google Assistant. (usually just triggering home automatons)
That’s why.
I don’t use Google messages, don’t use the Google Assistant… am barely aware that Gemini exists.
Same here.
They “remind me” every time I use assistant on my phone with an on screen message. But that’s about it and though I find it annoying I don’t feel forced.
@atrielienz @ObviouslyNotBanana If you use their Search and don’t want all the AI results forced to top of results you can try using UDM14 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/google-searchs-udm14-trick-lets-you-kill-ai-search-for-good/
My power button on my phone now opens Gemini… Every damn time it’s bumped. Press to wake the phone? Oh hello Gemini
Well that is annoying, but doesn’t sound like the expected behaviour of the power button. A long press, maybe, but just pressing it shouldn’t do that.
The good news is that this may cure my laziness. I’ve been preparing to leave most of google service for a while now.
