It isn’t libel or slander to say he did a nazi salute when he did do it. Now calling him a nazi could be libel or slander, but most rationale people will put two and two together.
But an entertaining headline from a so called free speech absolutist, ofc anyone with half a brain cell also knew that whole thing was a lie.
Now calling him a nazi could be libel or slander
Noting his recent sucking-up to AfD would be a strong defense for that accusation.
He never denied it.
Would love if it would go to trial (he will make sure it won’t) and court deciding that it indeed a Nazi salute.
There’s nothing even remotely similar, because in the past 80 years we were trying to make sure no one confused us accidentally with Nazis.
I think it’s safe to say that nobody will confuse Elon with a Nazi.
Hard to confuse an apple with an apple
Yea, which is the damning part! The whole “misunderstanding” can be wrapped up by by a single sentence: Sorry guys, that wasn’t that and I hope nazis gonna get pegged by living electric poles!
He thinks, “can’t we all get beyond this Nazi stuff?” like he said in Germany, while promoting Nazis, is going to make it all go away.
The funny thing is in Germany, you can kinda punch a nazi! You can definitely punch one if you are jewish and you might be able to otherwise depending on the judge! In the past several attorneys argued successfully that even the mere presence of nazis can existentially be dangerous and feeling threatened is justified!
I think it would be really funny if someone invited musky :3
He probably didn’t click on the “with this one simple trick” link
True shame! I would have never gotten a 70 inch dick if I hadn’t! It’s actually terrible, please send help!
Yes one defense against a libel suit is to prove that what you said was the truth. Would be hilarious to see this play out in court.
According to the article, Walz said on MSNBC
“We spent three days debating, or trying to debate that ‘President Musk’ gave a Nazi salute. Of course he did”
Then one of Musk’s Xitter followers said “I hope Elon sues [Walz] for all he’s worth.” to which Musk replied “I think I will”.
So, Musk was just talking out his ass, and it’s doubtful he’ll actually file suit.
This has all got me thinking, how else can Musk be manipulated? Exacerbating cat fights in the administration and surrounding MAGAsphere seems like one of the most promising ways to prevent them from doing too much damage.
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Why ? He made the salute.
Lmao I hope he does it and a jury finds that he did in fact perform the salute in question.
Sorry this is from the dude that called someone rescuing people in a cave “pedo guy” because he didn’t get the chance to look like the hero?
Unfortunately he won that defamation case, probably mostly because the diver made the mistake of hiring future Trump side character Lin Wood.
musk got confused because he wanted his tor pedo to reduce the kids. Presumably to give them to his partner, long time friend of Epstein, rapist, and self-admitted lover of little girls donald trump.
Holy fuck. You think it was an Epstein thing? Like he said to Elon, “Get those kids out. Send a couple to the island and we can say they died.”
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If you have a case, you don’t “threaten” to sue, you just do it
I would, because actually suing someone sounds like a ton of effort and expense. But I’m not the richest asshole in the planet and don’t have an army of lawyers on retainer.
It was a nazi salute done by a nazi to a nazi in a room full of nazis… I am not sure what else you would call it.
nobody thinks it wasn’t a nazi salute, but some people will argue that it wasn’t as a form of trolling… get you to spend energy arguing pointlessly instead of doing things that change things
Elon Musk, the Nazi?
Correct. Elon Musk, the Nazi who does Nazi salutes because Elon Musk is a Nazi.
Weird!
The same Nazi whose Nazi dad even said Elon was a Nazi.
Elon Musk did a Nazi salute. I’m Tim Walz.
Liar, you’re just some guy
Tim Walz is just some guy.
Touché
Some guy is tim walz
Well, you’ve got me there…
Elon Musk did a Nazi Salute twice. I’m not Tim Walz just a regular person with eyes.
Pedo guy Elon Musk, the pedo, wants to sue for libel?
I mean, if someone is calling you a Nazi that seems like a reason to want to do it, even if you are a nazi. Gotta protect your ego and identity and try to squash it from continuing.
But calling it a nazi salute, is pretty factual. I don’t know if Tim out right called him a nazi or just said it was a nazi salute, but there’s zero grounds for a case if it was just the action.
And in the single universe in the entire multiverse where Elon truly believes it wasn’t a nazi salute and the intentions were pure, it was still a nazi salute.
Make it class action, then, you nazi dork.
Since he’s now officially part of the government this is actually censorship.
You don’t lose the right, as an individual, to file lawsuits just because you’re working for the government. That’s not using the government’s authority; it’s something that’s available to any individual. Musk can sue without running into First Amendment restrictions on government action.
However, he might have a harder time winning such a lawsuit insofar as he might be more of a public figure due to serving in the government. The bar for defamation is higher for public figures in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
A series of court rulings led by New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964) established that for a public official (or other legitimate public figure) to win a libel case in an American court, the statement must have been published knowing it to be false or with reckless disregard to its truth (i.e. actual malice).
Hard to argue he’s not a public figure already.
Gertz v Welsh: He probably is an individual who has “…assumed roles of especial prominence in the affairs of society. Some occupy positions of such persuasive power and influence that they are deemed public figures for all purposes. More commonly, those classed as public figures have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved. In either event, they invite attention and comment.”
Not gonna check if that’s still good law. Westlaw, you are dead to me.
Discovery demands all Elon’s private messages that could be antisemitic.
Private messages from a person who owns the website…
And all IP addresses of all Twitter users to find all his sock puppets he uses to be even more antisemitic with.
This is the real tea tbh. We all know what his main account is doing. Show us the alts he uses when he doesn’t feel comfortable being fashy on main.
As a Minnesotan, I’m cool with spending my money to air the Nazi’s dirty laundry.
Another what if article…
Nothing has been done here.
