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Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
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The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.
Honestly I’d donate. Would love to see them seethe.
care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.
So right to the pockets of Adrian Zenz?
Couldn’t somebody buy it and change it to force all the assholes out and then change things to make it a proper instance?
Idk how federation works, but I imagine the domain name isn’t the only thing that ties the instanses together together?
I could be wrong
nah they could, theyd just change it to their ip address, like the domain vendor deleted their ip address from the records when they didn’t pay
That’s not how the Fediverse works. Instances are per domain, not per IP address. You can change IPs however often you want, as long as your domain points to the right server.
It would still be a different instance behind that same domain name
That doesn’t matter to fediverse software. Any new instance on hexbear.net would have errors when trying to federate with other instances, and it probably wouldn’t be able to do so at all. But even if it did manage it, what are you expecting to do to mitigate the errors that arise from other instances referencing users/threads/posts/comments/communities/modlogs that existed on the old instance, but do not exist on the new one?
referencing users/threads/posts/comments/communities/modlogs that existed on the old instance, but do not exist on the new one
Yeah, that’s what I was talking about. It would be a different instance that doesn’t have the same database as the original one.
I’d rather people just fund their instances or the developers
I wonder if the high bids will actually go through or if it’s just trolling. Definitely weird to give such big amounts of money away for a joke outside the space where it’s needed.
Every second bid is J_S. Wonder how high they’ll go
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Oh wow, this post reminded me to renew some domains I use.
What was the problem with Hexbear again?
It’s only a problem if you don’t like having chauvinism and western state propaganda brainworms questioned. As a ND queer communist I have never felt more comfortable and welcome posting than on hexbear. Their mutual aid comm is highly active and an immensely helpful place for many people. It’s an adorable community, they get a bad rap by people that come in arguing in bad faith who then run away to shame the hateful ‘tankies’ on their main instance like this post here.
That’s not what I saw from what many instance admins have posted. They don’t seem friendly at all.
why not just join and see for yourself? Or dont even need to join, its a public website just browse for a bit
I’ve seen how they behave in other communities, they didn’t “question” anything, and there’s nothing adorable about them.
Maybe they think pigs shitting on their balls is adorable? Saw a whole lot of that from Hexbears.
That’s their fetish.
Most of them are tankies (dumb political ideology) but most people took issue with the fact that they were the most annoying people on Lemmy. Every thread they’d be in would be a collection of the worst takes imaginable and they liked to start arguments with everyone else
Let’s also not forget their emoji spamming either. They absolutely trashed many threads on servers federated with them.
Especially the pig shitting one.
Yup, that’s one of their favorites to spam.
“tankies” is not an ideology. It’s a perjorative term for anyone to the left of you.
Absolutely wrong. A tankie is a fake leftist who idolizes authoritarian regimes / leaders
So, it’s a perjorative then.
Sure like calling a Nazi a Nazi is technically pejorative. More importantly, it’s a warning identifier to others.
So Zante was right.
It’s clearly an ideology as well, which is what I was addressing. (Ideology/idolize)
A Nazi is a real thing, there was a Nazi party that ruled a country, and there are still people nowadays who adhere to the ideals of that party.
There was never a “Tankie” party, it’s something that only exists in your head and has no representation in the real world.
It doesn’t have to be a defined party to be an ideology. It’s pretty hilarious y’all are defending authoritarian Stans
“Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.
So, yes, it’s a pejorative, and not one I think is aiding leftists trying to understand the views of others. More often than not it’s used as “commie” was: to shut down conversation and otherize people.
If someone supports authoritarians masquerading as leftists they subscribe to tankie ideology. Sucks for them that it’s a pejorative TOO.
If people don’t like being called it maybe they shouldn’t openly support such behavior.
Edit it’s funny, someone calling for mutual aid driven , equity based, collectivist society would never be called a tankie. It’s other stuff that people are squirming out of the cracks to defend here. Like long running dictatorial rule, state control of information, ethnic cleansing and political prisons.
And before I’m hit with the ml special: a lot of that shit happens in the west too, and has for years. There’s just different labels for it.
What makes someone a Leftist, vs an “authoritarian masquerading as a leftist?” What is “tankie ideology?”
JAQ elsewhere. Ample resources to look up.
My late edit had some keywords to can type in if you’re unfamiliar.
We just need to add a “person with” on the parenthesis and it will be understandable enough
i think its more of a general term, specifically with the focus on large government oversight.
“tankies” don’t like anyone on the left of them
What’s to the left of “everybody to the left of Elizabeth Warren”?
Have you ever been around a child who gets some silly factoid in their head, but it’s completely wrong because children are still learning the very basics of synthesizing the observable world into coherent ideas?
Hexbears are like children who have spent the last six hours explaining to you over and over again that cows can breathe under water.
Their users are needlessly hostile towards anyone who disagrees with them, they had a bug that caused their emotes to become oversized on Lemmy which quickly flooded threads when their users spam them, and they have a reputation for brigading threads to “dunk” on people. They also really like to flood threads with graphic images of pigs shitting on their own testicles, because that’s definitely what normal people do.
It’s worth noting that they don’t federate with other instances to participate in good faith, they do so in order to dunk on people and “dismantle Western propaganda” and “plant the beans of truth in other instances fields” and in general act in bad faith. Worse, their instance admins did little to stop this.
They were defederated from many instances for good reason, as their behaviour drove away a lot of new users. A lot of Hexbear users have alts on lemmy.ml and midwest.social, so the defederation doesn’t stop their users from continuing to be dickheads.
And if you’d like some receipts, I have plenty of examples. Best viewed from an instance that federates with Hexbear, so you can see their behaviour for yourself.
https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347 https://lemm.ee/post/4543536 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2017079 https://lemmy.world/post/2498330
Oh wow OK.
Thanks for the detailed explanation and sources.
No problem. I was around when Hexbear was still federated with my instance and saw the worst of it all, so I try to keep people informed. Their behaviour nearly made me leave Lemmy entirely, and no doubt others have because of it.
who needs the CIA infiltration manual when tankies will do it to themselves?
Hope the new boss isn’t the same as the old boss.
The bid is at $505.00!
Is Hexbear even worth that much?
Hexbear isn’t worth the dog shit I scraped off my shoe this morning.
The domain name isn’t worth anything, they’ve changed domain names before, they’ll do it again.
It will be funny that someone paid 500 dollars to make a communist domain redirect to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
That genuinely would be a funny troll
$1921 🤯 We need a Lemmy livestream for the countdown to it settling
That would’ve been some nice funding for the instances and fediverse developers.
I am not writing this to shit on them, but I have to appreciate the irony in the situation. Something about a communist community getting messed up by lapses in individual responsibility, or an authoritarian leaning community getting messed up by fuckups in leadership.
OMG!!!
Fuck yeah!
I have more fitting memes. :D
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Please post them on the reaction memes community when you can, I don’t have much time to do it myself (T~T)
Will post some of them in a moment.
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It’s as the end of the post:
lol yeah i saw that as soon as i posted, so i deleted mine =)
It’s up to $1921 now lol
They noticed https://hexbear.net/post/4468531
Link doesn’t work given the domain.
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True, this is the new domain https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
Weird, www.hexbear.net redirects to chapo.chat while hexbear.net doesn’t.
How doesn’t that break federation? Or are they starting over?
For me, both redirect to chapo.
With different messages on top that aren’t friendly to hexbear.
WTF is going on here?Hexbear has taglines that contain some of the funniest things said about Hexbear, or just funny in general. This is standard for Hexbear, if you refresh the page the taglines change.
I just clicked the first link, still the same auction site for me
I don’t see the auction site at all. Must be DNS things.
mhm for me both links go to the lemmy instance.
DNS caching at play. The registrar has pointed it to their own nameservers, and that gets cached in lots of places.
Ooooh. That explains it. Yeah, it just switched over to the redirect to sav.com for me.
I think they’re fucked. Because of how Lemmy does federation, there’s no way that I know of to switch the domain for an existing instance without changing the name and making everyone resubscribe to everything. Although, they probably talk mostly to one another so they could probably change the name to hexbear.social or something with just a little temporary disruption if they don’t feel like coming up with $300. Personally, I definitely wouldn’t want to cooperate with the domain extortion, I’d rather change domains.
I think they now have to win the auction, though. It’s $300 to renew for the year currently, and still rising, instead of the $12 it was going to be.
I do not think anyone should bid the price up. Hexbear may be a bunch of cunts, but all you’re doing with that is giving money to some criminals who are much worse than the Hexbear people.
How are they criminals? Its the domain selling site lol, they didn’t pay a cheapass 12$ renewal with a years notice, its their own fault?
Yep. Servers save federation keys per domain name. Not that they were really federated with most big instances anymore anyway.
New update for those of you following this story
We have established contact with the previously-AWOL owner, and after much discussion, we have determined that while there was an error in the auto-payment initially, the renewal funds were transferred manually to Sav and the auction continues despite that. We are currently appealing to Sav support with our domain credentials. We are also looking into whether an ICANN-compliant grace period was implemented prior to the rescinding and auctioning of the domain.
