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Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net
Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure
Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531
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Weird, www.hexbear.net redirects to chapo.chat while hexbear.net doesn’t.
I just clicked the first link, still the same auction site for me
I don’t see the auction site at all. Must be DNS things.
mhm for me both links go to the lemmy instance.
DNS caching at play. The registrar has pointed it to their own nameservers, and that gets cached in lots of places.
Ooooh. That explains it. Yeah, it just switched over to the redirect to sav.com for me.
I think they’re fucked. Because of how Lemmy does federation, there’s no way that I know of to switch the domain for an existing instance without changing the name and making everyone resubscribe to everything. Although, they probably talk mostly to one another so they could probably change the name to hexbear.social or something with just a little temporary disruption if they don’t feel like coming up with $300. Personally, I definitely wouldn’t want to cooperate with the domain extortion, I’d rather change domains.
Yep. Servers save federation keys per domain name. Not that they were really federated with most big instances anymore anyway.
I think they now have to win the auction, though. It’s $300 to renew for the year currently, and still rising, instead of the $12 it was going to be.
I do not think anyone should bid the price up. Hexbear may be a bunch of cunts, but all you’re doing with that is giving money to some criminals who are much worse than the Hexbear people.
How are they criminals? Its the domain selling site lol, they didn’t pay a cheapass 12$ renewal with a years notice, its their own fault?
For me, both redirect to chapo.
With different messages on top that aren’t friendly to hexbear.
WTF is going on here?Hexbear has taglines that contain some of the funniest things said about Hexbear, or just funny in general. This is standard for Hexbear, if you refresh the page the taglines change.
How doesn’t that break federation? Or are they starting over?
Well I’m impressed that just defederating from them was enough to basically kill the site.
I thought were defederated most of their existence though? I wonder what changed.
not everyone was, our instance held out as long as possible because were very pro free speech.
Y’all defederated recently? Can you link the thread?
https://discuss.online/post/13916278
at least I think we did, not sure tbh. We definitely talked about it.
Ok thanks. Yeah you’re definitely defederated, you can see hexbear on the blocked instances tab.
We absolutely definitely did:-)
You’re awesome
Nahh - further back, before they could even be defederated, they spent first years voluntarily isolating themselves from the larger fediverse. Just surprising is all, I was under the impression hexbear was very self sustaining.
Edit- looking like this wasn’t intentional, explains a lot.
What? That has nothing at all to do with the reason the domain expired. It has been in a predicament for a while, site admins lost contact with the owner of the domain name. This has been coming for some time.
OMG!!!
Fuck yeah!
I have more fitting memes. :D
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Please post them on the reaction memes community when you can, I don’t have much time to do it myself (T~T)
Will post some of them in a moment.
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It’s as the end of the post:
lol yeah i saw that as soon as i posted, so i deleted mine =)
Auction you say?
It’s up to $1921 now lol
Bidding ends in 9 days.
Edit: Current bid is up to
$305$505$676$710$1920$2345$2365As @[email protected] mentioned it’s now at $505.
What’s up with j_s_0e6b87? (Let’s call them JS). If they really want the address that’s the wrong way to go - bidding too high, too early, too often, and in a bidding war against everyone else. A better approach is to wait until the last hours and then try to snip it.
Unless their goal is to raise the prices this way?
EDIT: currently $676. JS is in a bid war with TB (t_b_2a08d7), a newcomer. 🍿
Wouldn’t it be better to agree whatever bit yall want to do with the domain name and spend the money on something more productive? Here’s a father trying to buy his kid a new leg after Israel blew it off.
I speak for all of hexbear when I say the domain isn’t worth that much, and losing it to capitalism is a funny bit, redirect it to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
Losing it to some anticommunist “left” weirdo to flex how much money they are willing to waste on an internet grudge instead of helping literally anyone is less funny.
I’m j_s_0e6b87 aka JS. Linking r/neoliberal? Pfffft, not even close! I want to Make Hexbear Great Again. It’ll talk about the wonders of NATO, and how Israel is doing the right thing (if you disagree you’re Antisemitic and a living proof of the horseshoe theory). I also want to denounce the horrors of mayocide and shitty image reactions, plus insert the Nazi 14 words there otherwise it’s literally 1984. (Just kidding.)
Okay, serious now. I don’t know what’s up with this bidding war; this shit is weird. Currently the highest bid is at US$710, that’s 200x more than I have in my wallet*. And it’s perfectly possible that the bidders are all doing it for different reasons: perhaps they believe that it had enough traffic to justify the price, or they want to recover it for your instance, or they are indeed in some weird vendetta.
And if it’s a vendetta it could be for a thousand reasons. It could be anticommunism, but it could be as well some HB user behaving like a wild monkey outside your home instance and getting someone pissed enough to do this stupid shit.
*R$20, or roughly US$3.50. Yup. If I had some money I’d gladly donate to Karim.
I mean they just try to collect the highest bid and then ban you if you don’t pay. I’m thinking it’s just someone fucking around.
Edit: yeah I’m guessing this is it. If you social engineer support and pretend to be them… Seems like John Smith is the bidders’ name on the site, before they turned me away.
JS has bid 26 times now without missing a beat. It’s up to $2,345. That’s insane… and with 8 days left! Like bruhh what?? I refuse to believe they genuinely want to purchase it vs just driving up the price.
It’s a popcorn fest for everyone! Including Hexbear users, they clearly don’t give a fuck about the address itself.
My guesses are, in order:
- Same as you, they’re just driving up the price. They’ll stop bidding near the end.
- They genuinely want the address because they have some really bad bone to pick against HB, and they have more than enough money to waste on it.
- Some really clueless HB user wants the address, even if their own admins said to not bother.
Theres also the possibility it’s the owner of the scamcoin which is also named hexbear
Unlikely. As I mentioned elsewhere, the last transaction of said coin was 886d ago, and it’s priced at zero. That coin is dead.
aw that would’ve been funny
Not going to lie, it would.
Same, it’s going to be an intense 9 days from now on. The finale is a great mystery as to how will everything turn out. What will be the final price? Will people cancel their bids? What will be shown on the new site? Who’s the one bidding? Who will win? And all the drama and arguing in the meantime too. Lemmy’s going to be busy.
If the highest bidder refuses to pay up, will it pass to the next one down?
Cause I feel lile some of those higher bids would just evaporate and it’d make perfect sense to place say a 500 bid rn (1920) just in case, if you were so inclined to decorate the domain after aquisitionEdit: And also it would mean you could start a bidding war with hexbeareans to drive up their cost to the maximum they would pay, without any risk to yourself as long as you remained anonymous
Supposedly they don’t bid.
Now I wanna raise a bunch of money to buy it and use it as a good way to document shitty behavior on the internet.
What a fascinating idea! Though I’d say there were many decent people there, I think.
Can you share a link to the auction?
It’s in the post’s body.
Oh…I guess I’m an idiot then…
That’s going to be crazy
To the moon. Still 9 days to go, now $676
They’ll probably stay in chapo.chat, and instance owners will update their blocked lists. A few users lost because they can’t be arsed to re-register, instead using
.ml. But, past that, not much is going to change, I think.I’m mildly curious on what’s going to happen with their older domain - or, what the winning bidder will make out of it. (Document bad online behaviour? Make it about NATO to rub salt on their wounds? What else?)
Has chapo chat been federated with us this entire time? I’m just trying to understand what it actually is.
It was the original website people from /r/chapotraphouse migrated to when it was banned on reddit but then everyone decided they didn’t even really like the podcast and made a new thing
I get that but do we need to defederate from them or not? It seems like they don’t have federation enabled or something.
sh.itjust.works
yeah better defederate just to make sure
sigh
That’s a funny way of saying you have no clue what chapo.chat actually is. Hexbear is the epitome of the blind leading the blind.
I could never have imagined that certain leftists were equally as stupid and ignorantly abrasive as MAGA trumpers, but you clowns have proven it beyond all doubt. It’s so profoundly concerning and disappointing 😑
Why can’t you just act like a mature adult and answer a simple question? Why must you incessantly seek to spread divisiveness and misery?
No it’s a funny way of saying your instance sucks
Who is spreading divisiveness? You are explicitly asking if you need to take additional steps to divide yourself from elsewhere.
Not to distract attention from your frankly obsessive and weird hate rant
I’m asking if chapo.chat is part of Lemmy or not. Do they federate with other servers, or is it isolated? Just answer the damn question.
I explicitly federated sh.itjust.works with hexbear, at the request of your fearless leader u/CARCOSA, and I took a whole bunch of shit from all sides for that decision. Then you defederated us within 24 hours, because you couldn’t handle losing arguments with our users. I have always tried to be reasonable with you people but it counts for nothing, because you just attack and abuse everyone you come into contact with, and you actively refuse to confront reality.
Don’t worry, hexbear/whatever is going to be called will almost certainly block sh.itjust.works along with other right-wing instances when it enables federation again
Cheers, we already blocked chapo.chat pre-emptively. Glad that we’re on the same page.
Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don’t trust them anymore:-).
So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)
Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so… It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it’s even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.
I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.
And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.
Is it weird that I feel bad for them?
I don’t think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like “respect rules of the other instances you interact with”, but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.
Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.
They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it. Then disappeared (yet again, after repeatedly having done so in the past so many times before). It’s even possible that they did this out of some kind of spite? But perhaps not, maybe it’s merely irresponsibility, and even that due to ADHD or some such, who knows (I did not read through every comment, just enough to know this much).
It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now) there are posts (not merely moderator reports, which don’t federate particularly with their older software) where they are made aware, and the admins chose to ignore the situation each time rather than ban the person involved. They actively shielded them from consequences, rather than merely allowing them to do whatever. Thus necessitating others to take steps of their own to deal with matters.
Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue - especially people who are ACTUALLY leftist as opposed to whatever fucked up thing tankies are to begin with, and then like that squared (three times over) and possibly reversed and shifted further into the imaginary dimension, to describe whatever the heck Hexbear has going on specifically. Regardless of political views. imho at least, ofc:-).
They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it.
That’s important info.
Perhaps the original owner is so disengaged already that they aren’t giving too much of a fuck about the fate of the instance. I can’t exactly blame them.
It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now)
Stop making me remember a certain movie! Okay, the movie is great, so keep reminding me of it. (Moulin Rouge. Their version of Roxanne is way better than The Police’s original. Kind of like Concrete Blonde’s Everybody Knows vs. Cohen’s)
But I digress. Yes, the users were going rouge :-P under the implicit approval of the instance admins; that’s why I say that the rule there against misbehaving in other instances was “toilet paper”, it’s just there to get shit.
Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue
Yup. It’s like the boy who cried wolf, isn’t it?
Anyway, I hope that the good ones still stick around. And even the bad ones should get a place… just away from my sight. (Perhaps in truth social, showing their “critical support” to Trump. Hehe.)
They openly idolize Stalin. That’s not from a couple rogue users
I’m not a fan of Hitler or anything
I just really really hate the guy who beat him
Stalin was a fine with Hitler. Helped Hitler invade Poland. Killing some of my family. Then massacring ethnic polish at home, killing more family. Stalin only turned against Hitler after Hitler crossed him. That the Soviet Union helped defeat Hitler was fine. But doesn’t excuse allying with him first. Or the Soviet genocides and oppression.
Deep down I want to know if you’re lying deliberately because you’re a nazi or if you’re just a particularly stupid person.
Hitler had a book. In it he said what he wanted to do. The leadership of the Soviet Union read this book. They did not think they were friends with Hitler.
Stalin was a fine with Hitler
The USSR spent a decade militarizing specifically because they saw the writing on the wall with the rise of fascism in Germany and Poland.
He also offered to station troops in Poland, but the Second Polish Republic was no less rabidly anti-communist than Nazi Germany and rejected them.
The capitalist powers made it clear they intended to let Hitler deal with the USSR. France and Britain even attempted to join Nazi Germany and Finland in the Winter War.
How does that disprove what I said. It doesn’t. How does that bring back any dead family? It can’t. I’m an anarchist fuck authoritarians whether they’re capitalist or pretend socialist.
The guy who spent his youth robbing banks to fund a revolution, succeeded, went on to beat the nazis, and helped lay the foundation for the greatest increase in standards of living in the modern age outside of China?
Even if you accept legitimate criticisms about the guy, such as interning/relocating populations in the wake of WWII, various loses the CPC took due to following his mandates, his failure to support Korea, etc, and understand him as a part of a greater machine accomplishing these things rather than the idealist “great man theory” nonsense that encourages hero worship in the first place, it’s hard not to idealize revolutionary heros like him and Fidel.
Holy shit
re-register
Why do you think their old accounts won’t work? It’s just a different domain name. They didn’t lose data.
Popcorn! Get’cher popcorn here! Can’t have a good fedidrama without that delicious buttery popcorn!
Don’t forget all the sparkling water provided by the colourful users of hexbear.
I’ll have a large with extra salt, please.
Oh, hell, and some milk duds too, it’s gonna be a good show.
We should buy it and turn it into a Lemmy instance that’s anti-authoritarian.
It should probably go to furry coders.
It got bid up to $700 😂
edit: 2300 and growing. Hilarious
Yeah they got their shit together pretty well. The admin is a great person and I admire them for what they did.
I think it’s hilarious that there is a bidding war that has been driving the bid up.
They’ve moved to chapo.chat.
How does anyone know that this is a fair auction. As much as the users may be hated or disliked, I still don’t believe in companies or corporations taking advantage of people like this to make a cheap buck.
Who’s to say that every bid in the auction is being artificially raised by a company rep and no matter what amount anyone comes up with, the owner will just keep raising it until they find a really high value.
Shitty situation all around and as much as they are not liked, I wouldn’t want anything like this happening to any honest instance out there.
I dont think anyone on hexbear is actually bidding on the auction. For one most users are poor and the consensus seems to be that any money that would go to cyberlandlords would be better served in the mutual_aid comm. Like if someone wants to spend money on hexbear, they should spend it on those that need it the most.
Thats always risky and I highly doubt it, they could just not buy it and then they’re stuck holding the domain and can’t sell it for a cheaper price immediately after
According to that statement they don’t have access to the account to renew that one either, so they’ll lose it eventually and it should be considered temporary. 🤷♂️
Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.
Homie, they inundated everywhere else with their bile, very few people actually came to their instance.
They were the traumatic experience.
they had a genuinely traumatic experience
Jesus Christ, this is so ridiculous. They federated on their own accord, and from what I’ve seen very little non-hexbear users ever came to post on hexbear communitites. Seeing some new users in your online community who disagree with you isn’t fucking traumatic, in fact these people adore arguing and “dunking” on “libs”.
Dunking on other instances was literally the entire reason they federated in the first place. Their users were salivating at what they would do to lemmy.ca before we defed’d.
They love to paint themselves as victims.
Their users wanted to defederate right away when they saw the rest of Lemmy. The people in charge (able to pull the switch) kept telling them to hold on and it’d get better. A small number of people made the decision for all of them. It’s all the rest for whom I genuinely feel bad. Their community was highjacked and, I think to them, attacked. I can have empathy for the average users.
Having seen how Hexbear interacted with other instances, I have zero empathy for them. They were an incredibly nasty group of people towards anyone who thought differently to them.
Seeing some new users in your online community who disagree with you
It takes so very little for liberals to take their masks off and start talking word-for-word exactly the same as incel nazis.
If you see anything that’s factually incorrect in my comment, please go ahead and point it out.
How about instead of puffing your chest out like an online incel douchebag asking me to cross a brand new line in the sand, you respond to what was already pointed out.
i.e. you being an incel nazi cosplayer and pulling the ‘just simply for disagreeing and nothing else’ bullshit you and every other incel nazi uses every time your behavior is called out
what was already pointed out.
Almost nothing has been pointed out. You said my comment resembles those of “incel nazis”. No actual explanation or concrete criticism, just aggressive vocabulary and vague accusations. Of course, you can’t provide anything more than that - had i actually given even a hint of support for nazi ideology, you’d easily point it out, rather than just calling out… my wording?
bullshit you and every other incel nazi uses every time your behavior is called out
What is this “my/our behaviour” that you’re talking about exactly?
I didn’t explicitly give verbal support to specific nazi parties (motte) I just said these snowflakes go running whenever some vague and nonspecific disagreement happens! (bailey)
You can’t criticize me for using the exact same rhetorical tools literal nazis use and in the exact same context! It’s just a coincidence! You have to follow my rules and satisfy my framing!
Their community reminds me of that one Something Awful subforum with the same style. I guess hexbear is just a younger demographic
Ah, I saw a lot of people traumatized by their posting, but it is the first time I hear about the opposite.
Hexbear is the only place online I’ve found that I feel most comfortable speaking my mind as a neurodivergent queer communist. People act like hexbear is some harsh authoritarian zone, it just simply doesn’t condone chauvinism, transphobia, or let people post western propaganda without it being questioned. Some people react poorly to the way they are responded to on hexbear when they post some bullshit that we’ve heard and debunked 1000 times already.
They also made a habit of “raiding” other instances, and outright flooding any conversation they didn’t agree with with the most vile takes they could come up with, or, failing that, the pig shit Gif.
But yeah, they’re secretly caring people, sure.
They also made a habit of “raiding” other instances,
Lol, I love seeing the mythology of hexbear evolve in real time. I particularly like how you put “raiding” in inverted commas to make it seem like you’re quoting something, rather than just making it up whole cloth.
I mean, I saw it happen. You argue with one, and twenty others show up and just flood the thread.
But sure, keep lying to yourself about how your friends are secretly caring people or whatever.
Yes, that’s how federation works lol.
Updated my blocklist, thank you
Thanks, added to the OP
They didn’t really move. That hostname has been a synonym for hexbear.net all along. It may have been the instance’s original hostname.
