• @UltraBlack@lemmy.world
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    122 years ago

    Fun fact: US toilet stalls are designed in such a way to reduce comfort and thus increase working hours. This comes from the same ballpark

    • @PurplebeanZ@lemmynsfw.com
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      62 years ago

      That doesn’t explain the public ones :( as a Brit visiting Disney last year those toilet cubicles were not a pleasant experience.

      • @I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        The lack of privacy is to keep you from doing drugs and having sex in the stalls. We shame people out of bad behavior with a 1 inch gap in the door. Spoiler: it only works on people who would already avoid such behaviors in public toilets.

  • TwinTusks
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    “have you heard of … oh, “rich country” … well, nvm?”

    • XIIIesq
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      12 years ago

      I feel like you have a point to make, but that the way you’ve written it has failed to clearly convey that point.

  • @Geek_King@lemmy.world
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    1332 years ago

    Yep, and given my experience talking with other US citizens about universal healthcare, they’ll argue how it’s some how a bad thing. It’s just a reoccurring thing, people seem to be programmed to hate stuff that’d help them.

      • @Clent@lemmy.world
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        282 years ago

        What? Are you Scott Adams?

        The right are the ones against things that would help us.

        • Guildo
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          42 years ago

          I don’t know who Scott Adams is, but googled it. I am no racist.

          It’s just funny, you say sth. against the stupid and inhuman liberalism in the USA and suddenly some idiot comes and says sth. stupid. That’s what I meant - it’s a mental illness.

          And yes, the other people here are right. There is no left in the USA and it shows. It’s just right-wing or more right-wing.

        • @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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          62 years ago

          You know fascism is not the only alternative to liberalism. Liberalism is a center-right ideology in most of the developed world - even the American politicians fascists use as Boogeymen are mostly Social Democrats not liberals.

          • sab
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            The liberal parties generally used to be the left wing back in the day, promoting basic human rights and universal suffrage against the capitalists on the right wing seeking to keep up the pace of exploitation.

            When the socialists came along they placed themselves on the left of the liberalists, eventually rendering the old school liberal parties somewhere between the centre and the right. In America the two party system kept this from happening, which is why people complain that there’s no true left in the US.

            However, the socialists are also split. Social democrats tend to hold Locke in one hand and Marx in the other, embracing both socialist and liberal values. This is often to the disgust of the ideologically pure Communists, as it’s hard to be a Lockean without accepting a degree of property rights that they find unbearable.

            If you give up liberalism you generally slide very fast towards authoritarianism, be it on the left or on the right. It’s possible to imagine a non-liberal non-authoritarian society; it’s just very hard to imagine actually getting there.

            • DessertStorms
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              If you are pro capitalism, you’re on the right, no matter what you call yourself or how much you try and cling to past definitions of words, it’s as simple as that.

              Also fuck horseshoe theory and this idea that “extreme left” is authoritarian (when authoritarianism is incompatible with leftist thinking on every level. This means tankies aren’t on the left no matter how hard they protest) - one extreme wants you to be a literal slave to a capitalist dictator, the other wants you to have everything you need and be able to work towards a better society instead of for the benefit of like 10 people.

              Try actually learning about liberalism and the harm it causes before you somehow go blaming (actual) socialists (seriously?? The people who have never even been allowed to come close to power???) for the state of politics:

              https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

              https://blacklikemao.medium.com/how-liberalism-helps-fascism-d4dbdcb199d9

              https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

              https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

              • sab
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                12 years ago

                I never said I’m pro capitalism. :)

            • Guildo
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              22 years ago

              You’re right, liberalism was left-wing a long time, ago. But this liberalism is gone, long time ago. You won’t find it anymore. That has no connection with socialism at all.

              If you read Marx, which indead you didn’t, you would say different things. The socialists didn’t try to fight liberalists, they just tried to explain to them why their views are wrong in some parts. This split the whole movement, but not because the socialists were wrong. It split, because the liberalists were naive and believed their own bullshit.

              Sorry, my english is very bad, but I also think it is very wrong to split communism and liberalism with the word authoritarianism. Communists want more freedom than liberalists can imagine. Their view is not focused on money and the system. And if they are stricter in their actions, than it’s only because they’ve learned that words are not enough. You have to fight people, who are against the true freedom of all people.

              • sab
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                I’ll give you one point - Communists indeed don’t tend to aim for authoritarianism. Even Marxist-Leninists claim it’s just a necessary step along the way - the final society will be complete freedom.

                I said as much in my comment - I just also pointed out the historical fact that efforts to implement a communist society without liberal ideals tends to slide towards authoritarianism real quick. China and the Soviet Union did not end up characterised by “more freedom than liberals can imagine”.

                Brave of you to make assumptions what I’ve read and not.

                • DessertStorms
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                  Even Marxist-Leninists claim is just a necessary step along the way

                  false

                  efforts to implement a communist society without liberal ideals tends to slide towards authoritarianism real quick. China and the Soviet Union did not end up characterised by “more freedom than liberals can imagine”.

                  China is a capitalist hellhole, and the Soviet Union never achieved communism, and using it as an example of what communism is is like using North Kore as an example of what a People’s Republic is.

                  I second how glaringly obvious it is that you’ve not read much of anything to do with communism at all that’s outside of the realm of mainstream propaganda. You can protest all you like, but your views speak for themselves.

                • Guildo
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                  12 years ago

                  I am sure you didn’t read Marx and if you did, you did not enough.

                  It’s hard to implement socialism, if it never was tried. You have only one try and if this try fails you have huge problems, cause everything is suddenly gone and than you have slavery, hunger etc. back. And also, if you try to build socialism, suddenly a lot of people are against you. You have to struggle with more problems, than you imagined. And that’s important to understand. You are suddenly enemy with everyone. Look at the russian civil war - they had to fight against several countries, even the USA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War It’s just crazy. And if you have to fight against several countries than people tend to ignore this and instead they’re saying “See, it doesn’t work.”.

                  So, yeah, you’re right, communists tend to authoritarianism, but not because they want to. They tend to it, because they have to. There is no choice.

            • @uis@lemmy.world
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              12 years ago

              Somewhere in the world there is a country with personalistic resource autocracy, where autocrat and his minions are strong pro-corporate, pro-censorship and against pensions, universal healthcare and net neutrality. Far right autocracy not only exists, but even started war.

        • sab
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          102 years ago

          Trying to read in good faith, maybe the user meant to refer to (right wing) Libertarianism or neoliberalism.

          Back before “liberal” became the preferred slur the American right could say in public, they would often seek to brand their ideology as liberalism in order to draw legitimacy from the high standing of classic liberalism. Libertarianism has liberal roots, it just blows a single element (freedom from state intervention) completely out of proportions.

          Academically, the father of Libertarianism (Robert Nozick) makes for a fun and interesting read, but he was torn to shreds by John Rawls (and, in my opinion and less famously, Michael Otsuka). If I remember correctly he ended up abandoning his own theory. Still it seems to have a particular appeal to Americans and their obsession about the self made man, property rights, and private wealth accumulation.

          • @uis@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            Liberal means just freedom. BS about freedom only from state intervention was invented by capitalism.

          • @Clent@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            Still oddly doing the lifting for the republicans.

            They don’t care for nuance.

            They’ll use your hatred for your liberals to hate americas left.

            Sucks that EU has the tankie problem, but with all due respect, quit your bitching. I wish that was the form of fascism I had to worry myself with.

            The America right is murdering the American left.

            We are not the same.

        • Blastasaurus
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          I mean, there is no left in America. It’s far right or center at best.

      • DessertStorms
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        42 years ago

        Fuck liberals, but maybe you can get the point across without the ableism?
        People choose to be liberal, those of us who are mentally ill didn’t.

    • @soviettaters@lemm.ee
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      42 years ago

      Tbf, universal healthcare sucks when it’s done poorly. Does anybody really trust the US government with our healthcare?

      • @dammitBobby@lemm.ee
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        212 years ago

        Do you trust a company that is required to provide profit to their shareholders by providing you the least possible amount of healthcare?

        Health insurance in the US is very complicated. It’s a feature, not a bug. They don’t want you to use it.

        Oh, but government death panels. Have you ever had to get a pre-authorization for care that would save your life? Or had a claim denied because that one person that was in the operating room while you were under anesthesia was out of network? Yeah, it’s actually corporate death panels.

    • @Moghie@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      My STD payment was maybe $200 more than I paid into (over a period of about 12 months). So really it’s more like an enforced savings plan.

    • @QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
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      But a lot of companies make you use up your PTO, including vacation BEFORE you receive your parental leave. The US is pathetically behind at this point. It’s shameful honestly and that’s saying something as a moderate.

    • @Tot@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      FMLA is job protection and is not about pay. Not every job offers sick time. I don’t know what percentage of salary STD covers. IIRC FMLA is only applicable to larger companies.

      People shouldn’t have to dig into sick time or take Short Term Disability after having a baby just to maybe get paid for a few days or weeks, maybe at 100% if they’re lucky.

  • @c0m47053@feddit.uk
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    72 years ago

    The UK only offers 2 weeks, and they are paid at a very low rate (£172 p/w). Most people I know didn’t take it, and either booked normal holiday leave or just went back to work.

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      That’s not quite true. The general rule for most people is that you get a year of maternity leave; the first 6 weeks are at 90% of your usual pay, then you get 33 weeks at the lower of 90% or £172.48 per week, and then the rest is on Maternity Allowance which is a lower amount again.

      The two weeks rule applies only to people who otherwise aren’t entitled to maternity leave - normally this is people who are self-employed, agency workers or on a zero hours contract (although you should always check as there are exceptions to these rules that employers will try to pretend don’t exist). In that situation, everyone is entitled to two weeks maternity leave for safety reasons, or four weeks if you work in a factory.

      That said, a lot of people don’t get to benefit from these rules because employers will straight up lie to employees about what they’re entitled to, and rely on employees either not checking for themselves, or being too scared of losing their job to insist on getting what they’re entitled to. If you’re ever in this position, you should absolutely contact Citizens Advice - they know the rules inside out and will be happy to help remind your employer of their obligations, and also of what happens to employers who are found to retaliate or discriminate against employees who are pregnant or new mothers.

      • @Bloodyhog@lemm.ee
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        I should add to that another point: in a more white collar fields companies in the UK compete for employees (among other parts of benefits package) with the terms they offer for maternity cover, and many will provide many months, at least 6, of fully paid leave.

  • TwoGems
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    822 years ago

    Let’s see $1 million medical bills, no health insurance, no paid medical leave, no consumer protection laws, trans genocide attempts, corporations are “people,” a minimum wage of $7.25 and much more.

    Is it rich for like three people?

    • @Echo71Niner@lemm.ee
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      I liked when Biden finally decided to suspend the military budget for the next 5 years, seeing as the U.S. is already operating a behemoth of an army no one dares confront. So the $5 trillion dollars they will now redirect to the public over the next 5 years is going to make a monstrous wave of positivity for the US for decades to come. /s

    • monk
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      192 years ago

      They said “rich country”, not “a country of rich people”.

    • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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      42 years ago

      30 states require minimum wage higher than the federal requirement

      4 states plus DC have minimum wage over $15/hr

  • SeaJ
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    182 years ago

    About a third of the country has paid parental leave. We have it here in the west coast and I know most northeastern states also have it.

    Here in Washington it is 16-18 weeks for women and 12 weeks for men.

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      My payed time off would be used up in a week. They might be considerate and keep me in payroll after that expired, but I’d be without pay once that PTO ran out.

      • SeaJ
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        You might want to look into jobs on the west coast, Colorado, Maryland, Delaware, NJ, NY, RI, MA, or CT. Or literally any other country in the world.

    • @Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network
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      I’ve lived in NH and Mass my whole life. As far as I’m aware the states both guarantee 12 weeks of unpaid leave. Your work can opt to pay (at a reduced weekly income) but they can also tell you to pound sand. And seeing as how many people live off week to week paychecks…

  • NoRezervationz
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    362 years ago

    Still don’t have a decent healthcare system either. So yeah, that tracks.

    • @MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works
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      I did a little digging once when I was in an argument with someone. Per capita the US government spends (from memory) like $600 per person on healthcare per year. For only like $50 more per person, per year, Australia provides universal healthcare and enormously subsidised medication - insulin for example is $30/script for high income earners and $6 a script for low income / retirees, and if you spend >$500 a year on medication, everything is free after that.

      • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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        32 years ago

        In addition, the USA spends about 17.5% of GDP on healthcare whereas the UK spends about 9.5%

    • regalia
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      52 years ago

      Only in terms of cost and insurance, which is obviously a huge deal. The actual medical experience is really good. They’re very fast and very skilled doctors.

      • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        Until you need a specialist, then your sol. My wife was in Portland and had to wait three months for an in network dermatologist. It all depends.