You’d have to be some sort of lazy bones to not do something so simple.
What an awesome channel
That time Cart Narcs got a gun pulled on them in Texas:
Assholes have guns and that’s all they need to think they’re right.
I was fine with annoying guy calling out the dude for not putting his cart away. Until he pulled out a magnet, (at least it wasn’t a sticker). Don’t fuck with people’s property.
People that think gun is the appropriate response to magnet are a big part of why I want to leave this country.
The way he so quickly racked that slide is a huge tell that this isn’t his first rodeo. If you brandish on someone with a sticker or magnet, you know you’re not in any real danger. Dude is just a psycho nutbag who has never lost an argument because his retaliation is always gun.
This is the kind of guy to shoot at kids for knocking on his front door while his family tells the media he’s a good person.
I want to agree with this sooo badly. But I have some empathy for crazy gun guy. And in some dispicable sense, the gun guy is acting completely rationally, if being severely short sighted.
Hypothetical: You drop litter on the ground. On purpose because you’re a thoughtless asshat. Someone calls you on it. Shouting ensues. They slap a magnet on your car. You rip it off and throw it on the ground because you have already demonstrated your unwillingness to give a shit about leaving things to rot in mother nature. They, in response, give your car a nice new scratch with a key and the damage is now permanent.
What’s your next move? Walk away? Call the police? Try to get their license plate and submit to your insurance company? Shame them on Tik Tok?
You’ve lost because your opponent was willing to escalate to vandalism, a crime for which you suffer and that no one is likely to take seriously enough to bring justice.
Society has broken down in this little ecosystem of two. Anyone can injure you, threaten your livelihood. Take away your security. What’s stopping them?
Until you unholster that 1.5lb mechanism of steel, lead, and brass. Now, you’re back in control. You are secure. Things are certain again. No one will be scratching your car, breaking your window, stealing food out of the mouths of your children.
There’s a certain rationality behind it, is all I’m saying.
Of course, we as rational thinkers can see the folly inherent in this escalation. Every petty spat becomes a life or death scenario. If we assume the rule of law still punished outright murder, then you are right back to your original quandary of whether to walk away or be the ultimate kind of “right”.
This is where mores in a society become critical. Maybe we’ve lost our sense of right and wrong behind a veil of rule-of-law. Maybe we’ve become too virtual to truly have a society based on mutual values. Maybe I’m just high and should go stare out a window.
TL;DR: Don’t litter.
Dude, going from my car got a removable magnet on it to my car got keyed to my children’s lives are at stake is an insane take, not a rational one. Justifying shooting someone because you’re generally scared is something cops do when they shoot an unarmed, handcuffed black man because an acorn sounds like danger. It’s not a defensible position.
Maybe I’m just high and should go stare out a window.
You’ve unironically provided verbal support for a guy wanting to use lethal force against someone causing no property damage while attempting to bring attention to anti-social behavior.
Yes, you should probably reflect some on why you believe that murdering someone over a magnet is appropriate (brandishing a firearm is assault with a deadly weapon, and in some places attempted murder for a reason).
Wow USA is strange, how did calling the police after the vandalism become “losing” or “irrational”.
It sounds like the thought process is: just in case someone might commit a crime, preemptive escalation is the best choice.
Wild. I’d call that thought procecess verging on sociopathic not rational. If a person’s fear of crime is so crippling that they think society has broken down because they fear a crime that they dream might happen; that person was never a well adjusted member of society. I’d think anyone trying to do business with or interact with such people should be careful - they’re unlikely to follow predictable or normal behaviour patterns.
I’d get that mindset might be rational for the BLM-type victims in those states /areas where law and order does seem to systematically fail some communities. But if it’s based on fear rather than evidence of law and order having broken down then, it’s less rational.
I agree the guy shouldn’t be so quick to pull a gun, but it also solved his problem very quickly. He was getting harassed, gun came out, he was no longer harassed. Nobody got hurt, nothing was damaged, and the situation was resolved quickly.
The Cart Narc guy was fine at first, but he should’ve said his business and left it at that. He kept arguing, pulled out a magnet and was just harassing the guy over a cart. The guy in the van has no idea when the dude will stop, so he stops him safely (for him). He didn’t jump out to fight. Is a gun an over reaction, absolutly, but the results speak for themselves.
How does this resolve in California? Same people, no gun? Do they all hug at the end?
I agree the guy shouldn’t be so quick to pull a gun, but it also solved his problem very quickly. He was making sure carts were returned, gun came out, no more carts in the parking lot. Nobody got hurt, nothing was damaged, and the situation was resolved quickly.
Does it sound insane yet?
Yes, its insane the most effective way to say “don’t put that thing on my truck and go away” is a gun, or in your version “put the cart away”. Both are in the wrong.
Cart guy should’ve left earlier, gun guy should never pulled a gun (and put the fucking cart away)
Lol don’t tread on me, right?
I hate those people. They are just as bad as the people who don’t put the carts away. They look like they applied to be traffic cops, and got rejected, so they are doing this and pretend like they are writing tickets. What a bunch of wannabe pigs 🤣.
wowowow mister millionaires, who has so much money they need a “cart” to carry their things. I can only buy like 7 eggs from my salary, so I don’t have this kind of 1% problem, I can carry them easily in my hands
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his 7 EggCoin…
You would take the risk to carry such a fortune in your mere human hands ? Bold
Why can’t I, hold all these eggs?
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There are some of you out there that really can’t return the cart. Maybe it’s your own mobility issues; maybe it’s children, animals, or something else that you can’t leave unattended in the vehicle; maybe you just ran out of spoons picking up your medical supplies; whatever reason–I got chu, fam.
When I turn around to return my cart, I always look for stragglers and bring them back. I’m forever alone, but healthy, so getting carts back to their “home” is the least I can do.
“We do what small things we can” gang
Really, really, really small
Better than nothing 🤷♀️
Feeling powerless and useless and shitty and need to do something to make the world a more positive place, no matter how tiny. I cast big squishy trans pride silicone six sided dice and gave them away at a board game convention and the happiness that brought some people is one of the things keeping me alive tbh, more literally than most people would like to know about.
“A rising tide raises all ships” has become my mantra as I try to do small things for others and for my community
The most basic test to separate people from beasts.
I don’t take the cart out of the store anymore. I really can’t afford that many groceries.
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Same, haven’t used a cart (besides Costco where I just can’t lift any product they have long enough to check out) in years. Well I suppose I haven’t been to Costco in years either but x >> y in this description.
I just put it in my backpack and walk past the register without paying
/jk I wish I had the confidence to do that
I‘m German. It’s in my DNA.
You mean our coins are in the cart
Aldi Stores in the USA have joined the chat
And there I thought the coin slots only existed so university students had to invest at least 50ct before putting them in their shared flats…
There are so many “unlocked” ones, they too end up where they belong and not randomly on the parking lot.
literally just religion
realize thousands of years of religon doesn’t even make people selfless enough to put a shopping cart back
It’s a wonderful test for if someone is an ass.
I used to work at a Costco. There were two long stretches of parking lot that had no cart corrals anywhere nearby. They were at the farthest points of the lot on either end. Despite all the employees begging them to add a corral in those spots the manager never did. But he would always complain about carts being abandoned way out there constantly.
I think a 30 seconds round trip to return a cart is more than fair. If you cannot reasonably locate a Coral (or the store does not have one within that walking distance timeframe) I think its fair to attempt to store the cart in such a manner that it doesn’t block someone else trying to park.
All that being said the average shopper at our location wouldn’t even attempt to find a corral. Often times they would just leave them in the empty space next to their car blocking a parking spot. Usually within 20 feet of an actual corral. Sometimes they would literally yell at one of the cart runners from a distance something like “wouldn’t wanna put you out of a job!” Before they just left their cart slowly rolling across the lot unattended.
If you ever want to lose whatever small amount of hope you had left for the basic decency of the human race just work at a Costco for a little while.
People would leave their trash in the carts constantly. They would spill food and drinks all over the kids seats and just leave them there. They would almost never put them into the corrals properly. They would just shove them towards the corral from a distance which almost always cause the carts to jam up at angles and then the corral would over flow and eventually people would just leave them with their front wheels put over the curbs right next to the corrals that was now spilling over with 7 carts because nobody decided to properly put the cart away and instead just pushed it to the edge and called it quits.
I have worked all kinds of service jobs over the years. Costco by far had the most selfish and shitty customer base out of all of them. You can tell by the way many of them spoke to employees that they felt entitled to treating everyone like shit because they paid a membership. Hell some of them would even say exactly that whenever they felt even slightly inconvenienced or slighted. Just right out the gate with “I pay a membership fee blah blah blah blah”. Every once in a blue moon they had s legitimate argument to be making, but 99% of the time they were just throwing s fit because they wanted to get their way and the managers would bend over backwards for the customers every single fuckin time.
Sorry this turned into a rant about the worst job I ever had.
Yeah many people are too selfish to put away a shopping cart these days.
I used to work for Target and Walmart. I feel like there’s some overlap between the customers I’ve experienced at Target and the people that go to Costco. Sure, there were some weird people at Walmart, but at least they’d mind their own business. I swear Karen would try extra hard to go out of her way to interrupt your work for no reason at Target.
I found all sorts of things in carts at Walmart though. People would buy stuff to do their oil change in the parking lot, then literally change the oil and leave the old stuff in a cart sitting in the parking lot. Of course they didn’t put it in the corral!
This is mostly an American thing. They/we tend to be more entitled and very selfish. Often making excuses for bad behavior with lines like “I’m keeping people employed”. No stupid, you’re increasing our groceries because of your selfishness.
Now I live in Taiwan and have visited many countries and found out that this is not the norm. Most people care about the community their live in and oftentimes put back their carts.
Another example of American entitlement. Americans often throw trash on the ground in parking lots because the trash cans are too far away or they can’t find one. Again the same excuses, “Keeping these people employed”.
In Taiwan(and Japan), if you can’t find a trash can, you take your trash home with you. You actually have a hard time finding a bin in public here. But our streets are typically very clean. Because we care about the community and the people here are less selfish.
Where in the US? It’s pretty common where I’m from to put shopping carts back in their corral.
Issaquah WA which is an affluent area east of Seattle.
I also lived in Los Angeles and some of these people take the carts pass the corral and all the way to their neighborhoods.
I’ll take your work on Issaquah being affluent and blame it on that and LA is just LA.
And you’ll be heavily fined if you don’t carry your trash home. Personally I prefer public trash cans, especially when I’m visiting a place hours from home. That way I can enjoy being there rather than carrying soggy trash with me for ten hours. But to each their own.
We are not encouraged to carry our trash home because of “fines”. We do it because it’s the right thing to do if you can’t find a trash bin.
I have carried my trash for hours before I found a bin. It’s the norm to do that and we even have methods to carry it more effectively.
Gross
No but really, I find that grosser than litter. Litter isn’t pleasant and it eventually gets into bad places like water, but I’d much much much rather a bunch of litter around than having to carry (many types of) trash around.
This is not to say that I personally litter on any but biodegradable stuff (apple cores ex), just that I can get it if theres no bins.
Gross? Are you taking dumps in trashbins or wtf?? Carrying basic trash (packaging? Plastic? Paper?) in a bag isn’t gross if done properly. But I do agree that having trashbins is just easier. It’s just that some places don’t have them (wildlife parks, mountains…).
Just institute a back seat compost system like I did as a teenager. You just have to stir it up every once in a while.
Bonus is nobody asks you for a ride or for help moving, and eventually, you can just leave your windows down and the raccoons will do most of the work for you.
Wow downvoted for public trash cans. What a microcosm Lemmy is. Not sure of what.
I countered your downvote with my lone upvote. Thanks for commenting.
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Creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs is the stupidest anyway.
You absolutely won’t have the savings passed onto you if the store fires one of the cart managers. That’s the same logic as thinking self checkout makes store prices cheaper. Maybe if every store were locally owned it might work that way, but we’re far from that sort of system.
They didn’t ask for an example of American broken thinking but you provided it anyway because it’s another thing Americans excel at.
I return the carts and I don’t litter, but lets not lie about the effects of cart returning on socioeconomic outcomes. That’s bullshit and you know it.
Nobody said the savings will trickle down to consumers. But best believe it will INCREASE if enough idiots do stupid things.
One time I didn’t return the cart at Aldi.
I still think about that a decade later.
Because that haunts me I always put the cart back no matter what
For those that don’t know you have to put a quarter in to use a cart and you get it back when you put it away which means there are never stray carts anywhere. People want their money back.
I look for someone coming in to give mine too, as do many others.
It’s worse than that. I shoved it up on the curb and left. Like you see at any other store.
I’ll never understand people who make doing free labor for a corporation some sort of top tier ethical standard.
Not lttering, following traffic rules, there are so many small ways we make our society better and yet people get so worked up over the one that is providing free labor.
Not lttering
What do you think leaving a cart in a random spot is if not littering?
Not littering.
There is a specific place you are supposed to put the thing when you’re done with it. It’s basically littering to do otherwise.
Yes clearly that’s exactly the same as throwing trash around at a park /s
basically
exactly
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Sounds like we’ve got a lazybones on our hands.
Um, not free labor. Preventing that cart from damaging cars
Thank you!! I upvoted away one of your down votes. You have said what I was thinking!
In b4 someone unironically tries to defend not putting their cart back. There’s always one.
There’s always one.
Confirmed, it seems one did. Sigh.
Sometimes I don’t put the cart in the corral…
I take it back into the store because it’s closer than the nearest corral. Or I take my bags out before I go into the parking lot and leave the cart in the lobby cart storage.
My husband wouldn’t put the cart away.
But he has cerebral palsy which made walking back to the car without the cart for stability difficult when he was shopping alone. He actively liked if someone left a cart in the handicapped hatch mark area because then it would be close so he could grab that going into the store and be balanced against it.
He did know it wasn’t ideal though, and I’d take the carts back when I started shopping with him.
Anyone parking in a handicap spot is the one type of person no one should judge when they don’t put their cart away.
Shouldn’t, but people absolutely do judge them! They also judge if they think you shouldn’t be in a handicap spot period. So many people get huffy when they see my (what appears to be) able body get out of the car then…oh shit, my visibly disabled husband!
People getting upset about handicap spots are morons. I’m sure there is some overlap between them and those who don’t return carts.
Every rule has its exception, it makes sense that physically handicapped people shouldn’t be treated as strictly with rules concerning physical activities.
I don’t have time for that. and someone else gets paid to do it!
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Now there’s more than one and they’re running mental gymnastics to claim that pro-social behavior is simping for corpos. Special kind of entitled faux-leftism there.
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The CEO isn’t paying that salary. It’s a cost of business. A business you’re paying for as a customer. All the customers pay a percentage of a nickel extra for shopping in a store that has a cart returner on the payroll.
I suppose ithe job pays badly and isn’t very interesting. It’s not something I’d waste my life doing. I wouldn’t want my kids to do it either. Actually I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone. Life has much more to offer than pushing carts all day.
So, congratu-fucking-lations, you’ve created a job that nobody ought to do and made everyone pay for keeping a sorry ass kid on poverty wage.
Ok, so you’d argue that by pushing the cart back, then you’re the one doing the same meaningless job for free. Good point, right?
But here’s the catch: Nobody ever needs to return a cart.
There are at least two ways to do this.
One: We can all accept that the cart doesn’t have a home to be returned to and just leave them wherever and pick them up at the same place. This is obviously the chaotic neutral way.
Two: Pack your groceries in bags in the cart after (or while) paying. When you push the cart back towards the car, you walk by the cart corral, pick up your bags and walk to the car while leaving the cart in the corral. It’s fucking magic.
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Idk. I put my cart back but I have heard an occasional decent argument why someone wouldn’t.
One of the biggest ones is a single parent shopping alone with multiple small children. I get that ideally the cart corral probably isn’t super far away, but leaving small kids alone for even a short period of time must be nerve wracking and not always safe depending on the area and climate.
Have had mutinies small children. Always put the cart away. Doors lock and children aren’t that fragile.
bruh, I was trained as a child to put them back, we would start putting them back as soon as our parents lift the last bag out of it
probably a hot take but if your child can walk by themselves, putting the cart back is definitely a doable chore.
One? Like a solid 10% of the thread wtf
Should’ve said at least one
The litmus test for civility.
