New to Lemmy and I quit reddit years ago and I remembered that r/conservatives was hostile to me for voicing my politics certain other subreddit made fun of me if I was wrong. I’m newish to the fediverse. I’m digging mastodon even though I never did Twitter
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Most of Lemmy was extremely hostile during the US elections but that has mostly passed.
I had a fun time trying to explain why I voted for stien, I had to tell people the president part of the ballot is the one I have the least impact on and If people were to convince me not vote stien that is leave that part blank
Yeah so you’ll generally find lemmy users to be quite hostile to your political position. I’m grown up enough not to be “hostile” but to be frank I think your voting choices are very poorly considered.
To your broader question. Lemmy is just like any other platform. If you say silly things people will rebut you. There is no respect for contrary opinions.
I’ve found that lemmy communities tend to be very homogeneous and in many threads if you offer any insights which are not breathless support you’ll be heavily downvoted and get vitriolic responses, or banned.
For example, saying anything critical of China in a .ml thread will result in a ban.
For example, saying anything critical of China in a .ml thread will result in a ban.
Just to clarify this point: they mean that mindless reddit style jingoism will get you banned; reasonable criticism is fine.
That’s not what I meant at all.
There’s plenty of examples of .ml mods banning users for reasonable criticism.
There really isn’t
Lol I can see it’s controversial that I voted for stien, but I’m not ashamed, I’m proud that I did.
But I’m not afraid to be who I am and I don’t want to have to conform for other strangers just to use a service. I’d rather we be ourselves and celebrate that we are here on this app
Yeah that’s not really how lemmy or any anonymous platform works really.
If you espouse a position that others disagree with they will tell you.
If your position is ridiculous then you will be ridiculed.
Personally, I find Lemmy to be a lot less respectful in this way than other platforms. As I said in my earlier comment any opinion that is less than absolutely supportive of the common opinions is heavily ostracized.
A good example would be the situation with Luigi Mangioni. The vast majority of users want mangioni to walk free, and as a result there’s blind support for “jury nullification”. This is obviously a complex issue with legal, social, and historic ramifications, but any opinions other than breathless support for jury nullification in his case will be heavily ostracized.
Yeah I can definitely say Lemmy can get toxic. I thought with Redding your karma was a status symbol and indicated to other redditors on how to treat you or even if they wanted to engage with you. Along with you account age
It’s like you had to post animal pics for a week before you got any recognition.
Here people look at your post or comment likes and decide how to engage with you. There’s definitely approval addicts
the way i describe lemmy to people who aren’t already familiar: it’s like r/linux, r/socialism, r/communism, r/anarchy, and r/shitposting got together to make their own reddit and then the rest of reddit starting joining in during the api protests and now they outnumber the original communists, socialists, anarchists, etc. users by a lot; hence the comment you responded to.
it works great for me because i was in all of those subs and i also left reddit during the blackout protests like 75% of all the people on lemmy did, so you’re in familiar company; you’re technically not on reddit, but you might as well be if you’re part of the right communities.
I was never on those subs. I use Linux to wipe laptops I sell and I used for projects, I feel if I joined the sub then the posts would go over my head.
I’m pretty sure I left before the API fiasco. All I thought at the time is that corporations copy each other. Elon apparently had an effect on reddit
it doesn’t have to be linux specifically; lemmy was created as a safe space at intersection of open source technology; leftist politics; and genz style shitposting, if your interests align with any of those, then lemmy is purpose built for you.
and corporations copying each other is the reason why lemmy has become my primary platform. i’ve been moving from one social media platform onto another each time each platform enshitified because of corporate policies since the days of icq and bbs. my experience teaches me that anything centralized enough or with sufficient financial backing will likewise enshitify eventually, like reddit did, so i stay away from things like bluesky or mastodon.
Thank you for doing the right thing.
.world and .ml like to beef over their politics (generally liberal vs more leftist/Marxist)
Aside from that, people are generally pretty kind and won’t bash you for having left-of-center politics. If you’re a conservative, though, I’d expect downvotes. There just aren’t very many around on Lemmy. (And I personally think things are better that way.)
.world and .ml like to beef over their politics (generally liberal vs more leftist/Marxist)
most of the “beef” actually happens in their own little threads with no cross interaction cause .world has hexbear and lemmygrad blocked
Ehhh there’s not no interaction though, as .ml has them all federated and quite a lot of posts are thereI was misremembering, see below
Even when the conversation happens on a “bridge” instance, the users of the instances defederated from each other don’t see each other’s comments. They have an abridged view of the conversation.
Ahh my mistake, you’re right
Is that Why I see so many gaps?? How do you check which are and aren’t federated. I want to see as many as possible, even if they’re dipshit ones
Bruh blahaj defederated all the porn? Lol. Thanks for the link!
both .world and lemm.ee are conservative enough for each one to have their own thriving conservative sub communities; i doubt op would get down votes from them.
Man, that must be tough for them. Lemmings run between solidly Democrat and contemplating critical support for Pol-Pot.
democrats are politically center-right for in the entire western world, so it’s not at all a stretch to be conservative, religious, and democrat all at the same time.
the way i’ve politically sparred with them on lemmy proves to me that this is what most of the people of .world and .ee are like; status-quo americans.
so it’s not at all a stretch to be conservative, religious, and democrat all at the same time.
Yes. That’s a lot of older African-Americans, from what I’ve heard. Church every Sunday, but they’d chew off their own leg before they vote Trump.
My impression is that the average .world user is a progressive. Some stray towards centrism, some are communist. The Pol-Pot post I saw was on Hexbear.
IRL, well, you know.
as i said earlier, .world is center-right; i don’t get any sense of progressiveness from them.
they might be progressive compared to republicans, but not compared to your average western european or latin american or canadian; aka the western world.
Same thoughts here, and I personally don’t like things this way :)
Politics (and Lemmy) showed me how low people can be in order to triumph their own party, It’s gross…
on Reddit I couldn’t tell if the person I’m replying to or them replying to me are leftists, centrists, or whatever… that’s diversity not being able to predict people, and read them like an open book, because you don’t know who they are, what their Philosophy In life is, they’ll surprise you with their opinions… On Lemmy however… I can tune my politics slider however I want, I know what political comments are going to get upvotes and downvotes, or get censored, or get the user banned… And no, they’re not offensive, just not politically correct…
I feel like I’m not taking freely as I used to do on Reddit, ironic but true, conservatives gets downvotes here, that’s an understatement, they get flamed and called Nazis… which I never saw happening on Reddit, people had debates and discussions like yanno… grown ups!
I remember I replied to someone, and basically said I’m not convinced about their political comment, It doesn’t matter… But this girl replied to me and started saying I’m just like Donald Trump a Liar… lol… Ok… I said Yes, I know he’s a liar…( I do ) then she wanted me to be an ally (like I guess politically aligned)… And I was like to myself… I’m I being drafted or something ?!
What makes this all super duper awkward, is that I’m from the middle of no where, I live in the sahara desert… anyways I rambled… the point is … people on Lemmy need to chill with their political stuff, not everyone who disagrees is an enemy or a “Nazi”… or looking for a fight… Many times people (Normal people) just want feedback… And it kinda triggers me to see people obviously having blind spots, yet insisting on their bias…
What a fucking whinge
sure… 😮💨
Lemmy is, in general, very welcoming of newcomers. We are always happy to see one more person escape the hell hole that is reddit. We all hope you have an amazing time here! Though a lot of it depends on what home instance you are on, but feel free to hop around from instance to instance to find one that suits you, or maybe you already feel nice and cozy just where you are.
Completely random, unorganized and improvised tips and tricks and other miscellaneous information
Reminder to use the subscribe button to curate a nice Subscribed feed!
Subreddits here are called “communities”.
Use ! to link to a community. Like so [email protected].
Need help? Ask something on the adequate support communities, like [email protected].
The All feed only shows posts from communities that at least one person from your own instance is subscribed to, so might make sense to look on other instances Local community lists to find a community you might not find on Lemmy’s horrible search function.
You might know on Lemmy, multiple instances share content. This content sharing happens through a proccess called “federation”. When two instances are sharing content, we say they are federated, when they stop sharing content, we say they are defederated (like lemmy.world and lemmygrad.ml).
You might be confused with all the @ everywhere in community names and user names. Let me explain:
Username are structured like so: Username @ instance link.
And communities much the same way:
If you do not see a @ in a community or username, it means they are on the same instance you are on right now!
There might be duplicate communities of the same topic on different instances, so if you like one, you might want to subscribe to all of them. (There are like… 3 meme communities for example: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] )
Before posting in a community, make sure to read the rules of both the community and the instance it is hosted in.
It is worth noting, though, that due to recent political… events… politically related skirmishes have gotten somewhat more common. Also, as more people join Lemmy, some of them are bound to be morons so… reminder the block button exists if you are not interested in that. Most of the skirmishes are between liberals and Marxist-Leninist.
I hope my unorganized guide might of of some use to you! ( ^ ω ^ )
This helps probably should post it for posterity
You can bookmark posts and comments for later.
I originally found it really nice but in the past two month’s I have run into a lot of rude users. Best thing to do is to call them out, report them, then block and be done with it. This makes it a lot easier honestly. Most of the frequent users are nicer.
Make note of the instances you are on. Communities with the same names can be radically different across instances.
Each instance may have their own collective view on what is right or wrong, good or bad. For example, I saw that you mentioned the “T” word (or was in a discussion about it) on .ml the other day and that is a recipe for an interesting discussion. You do what the heck you want, but each community will have their own special reaction.
I stumbled into lemmygrad a couple of years ago, somehow. It didn’t take but about 5 mins for me to be labeled a fascist baby killer.
I find the contrast to be funny. Some of the interactions are friendly where people know each other and ask them how certain events in their personal lives went. Some are just nasty. There is no predicting what you’ll get, other than some decent active users that I’m familiar with.
Were they new users?
Not always but frequently.
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yeah ideological policing is insane
Will the mods flame you then ban you?
Just ban you, it depends on the server admin’s mood, so don’t piss them off
Also on Lemmy you can see the moderation history for any user or comment.
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?userId=1660834
Do with that info what you will. It’s very helpful sometimes when folks claim mod abuse.
We have mods of all kinds here! Most won’t just ban you unless you broke an actual rule. Any who, good of a time as any to mention the Modlog exists. You can easily see someone’s moderation history with just two clicks!
(three dots next to a comment and then moderation history.)
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The .ml mod history is full of people getting banned for whatever, and shoehorned into rule 1. I know, because every time my posts don’t get votes for a while I go and check it, just in case.
I have nothing against your instance’s moderators or users, but I’m not quite sure the admins of your instance follow the same guidelines.
I would really recommend newcomers pick a home instance like db0 over .ml or .world, and be aware of the instance rules when posting on communities in either. For .ml, avoid criticizing the CCP, and for .world, avoid expressing any desires that can be even remotely seen as “violence”.
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Yeah, I never said .world is any good either. Both of them have Ye Old’ Power Tripping Bastards worthy moderation.
My instance had a genuinely stupid policy where trolls were not to be banned but instead countered with facts. To prevent echo chambers, or some stupid shit like that. They also blocked the db0 piracy community from being viewed.
If the worst happens there are many instances to choose from, and it seems easy to get your preferred username
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I hardly ever check how old anyone’s account is. I try to be nice to everyone regardless of who they are, and discuss issues rather than posters.
That depends. What operating system do you use?
A custom Illumos that uses Sun C is instead of GCC and all the copyrighted stuff they replaced with FOSS got shitported back in town because who doesn’t like seeing AT&T notices from the 80s at the top of headers?!?
templeos or bust
Need need needddddddddddddddd
On average, yeah.
But you gotta remember, there’s a fresh wave of r/efugees coming in, and there was one not that long ago.
Lemmy is mostly people that left Reddit, rather than having been a separate culture of its own. So there’s plenty of the same things that make reddit a difficult place to be.
Lemmy tends to be more forgiving overall, outside of the politically focused instances, and some of the more… assertive belief systems that have communities and instances.
As others have already said, lemmy.ml is a dedicated leftist space, and it’s hard left, even outright tankie at times (far left and authoritative). So you don’t want to go there about politics, you won’t have a good time.
Lemmy.world catches a lot of hell because some of the mods and admins are a tad whack, but the users are typically not going to fuck with you.
Sh.itjust.works is probably the closest in vibe to reddit, good and bad.
Those are still, iirc, the three biggest instances. So you’ll have more users, which means the percentage of assholes in the human race equals those instances having higher numbers of assholes, but that really is the issue.
My advice to anyone new on lemmy is the same as it was for new reddit users. Hang back a while. Stay chill. Observe the culture of lemmy as a whole, and any community you want to participate in.
It is the internet though. People will say shit they’d never dare to in person. But I’d say there’s less of it here than most forums. And, I also tend to see more compassion too
I’ve found lemmy to be kind most of the time but my original experience coming here was 2 years ago
I’ve definitely noticed an uptick in anger, but that’s happened every time Reddit has pushed users away - nice thing is that they mellow out pretty quickly here
Its also quite a tense time in the world. A lot of people are stressed beyond belief.
Varies wildly from instance to instance. At this point, most instances have their own “culture” and ideological leanings, if you go against your instance’s grain then you will run into more friction. I can help if you give a broad overview of your political leanings and interests, or you can browse the major instances and see which most appeals to you.
Lemmy has a hardon for FOSS, and an irrational hatred for windows.
Aside from that, it’s quite nice imo
Yeah I learned that you can’t say about a Foss developer wasting resources even when they do fundraiser and apply for grants
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Honestly, it’s been better than Reddit so far, probably because of who’s self-selected into being here. In the long run, I expect it will be the same.
Like someone else said, there’s prominent Marxist-Leninist instances, including this one to a degree, so this probably isn’t the place if you want to talk about your cool new landlord sidehustle (for one example). Most of Lemmy (like everywhere I’ve been, probably even NCD) leans left of the IRL center, but it sounds like that won’t slip you up.
If I’m gonna get into politics it’s most likely to start organizational groups for approval voting/ranked Choice voting. I’ll tell people that they have to deal with entire spectrum
Yeah, we have one-choice FPTP where I live, and it sucks.
Given the context, I feel the need to mention that starting an organisation is super, super hard to start with, and Lemmy is niche on top of that. There’s organisations IRL that are always looking for volunteers.
I’m new, too, and agree it’s been way nicer than reddit.
Well, I left during the whole API thing, so I’m not sure I’d say I’m new. But anyway, glad to hear it!
What brought you here? How did you hear about us?
Just curious.
I try to be nice to all users.
Even ones who put catsup on hotdogs.
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Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Offensive usernamePlease create a new account and stop using this one. Aside from not wanting to deal with the extra reports this one will bring, we won’t let this become a Nazi bar, and we know that “ironic” bigotry is often the thin end of the wedge. I’m not saying you intended to lay out the welcome mat for the far-right, but that’s what ironic far-right messaging effectively does.
Perfect example of this is 4chan.
