Summary
Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.
Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.
Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a “real estate development for the future.”
His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.
Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.
Mexico is currently building the deepest hole in the world!
It’s part of the plan to toss all my fellow Mexicans in the hole, then we’ll rename the Mexican Riviera to the American Riviera. The Yucatán peninsula will now be “Extraflorida” or southflorida.
Yeah, I see where all this is going. Eventually well have east America … Land rich in diamonds.
Hey but at least all those enlightened dipshits didn’t vote for Kamala! Who could have guessed that Trump’s Palestine policy would be even worse?? Oh yeah, everyone else. Thanks a lot dipshits
How is it worse? This was literally Bidens public plan. His administration was just quieter about it, though not silent, which is how we know if was their plan.
Biden suggests to move Palestinian to Egypt and Jordan as early as October 2023. So did previous US administration it goes back to 80s.
Saying the quite part out load is what is different now and the Democrats pretend they are upset while Both Kamala and Biden saying their proud Zionist.
What is now different is that Trump want the place for himself not for Israel nor the US.
Thank you for saving Gaza
Found one of the dipshits!
Bidens suggestion was explicitly about allowing Palestinians to flee into Egypt short term instead of being forced to flee repeatedly within the country.
Trying to equate the two is quite disingenuous.
If you actually believe they would have been allowed back after, I have a Riviera to sell you.
Biden (and Trump’s) proposed plan all line up pretty nicely with these leaked documents from the Israeli government. https://www.972mag.com/intelligence-ministry-gaza-population-transfer/
The document unequivocally and explicitly recommends transferring Palestinian civilians from Gaza as the desired outcome of the war
The transfer plan is divided into several stages. In the first stage, action must be taken so that the population of Gaza “evacuates south,” while the air strikes focus on the northern Gaza Strip
The document also says that the United States should be enlisted in the process to exert pressure on Egypt to absorb the Palestinian residents of Gaza, and that other European countries — particularly Greece and Spain — as well as Canada should help absorb and settle the Palestinian refugees.
The Intelligence Ministry document states that Egypt will have an “obligation under international law to allow the passage of the population,” and that the United States can contribute to the process by “exerting pressure on Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE to contribute to the initiative, either with resources or with the absorption of displaced persons.”
The disingenuous is your statement saying they will be allowed back, how about move them back to their home that they cannot return to since 1948 aka “right of return” ? or moving them to housing options in west bank ? why Egypt? why Jordan?
why would Egypt send their military and build a wall across the border when Biden admin suggested that? Israel was planing that before October, On June 2023 their prime minister goes to UN and draw a pipeline on a map across Gaza. Making it clear they want to annex it. Do you think the US weren’t aware of it? Do you think Egypt who warn Israel about October didn’t pass the info to the US?
Do you really think people don’t read history or know what is going on to believe outlandish statement that Biden will move them to Egypt, drop the equivalent of two nuclear bomb on the region, then build it up, then bring people back?
Buddy, they’ve never been allowed back before. Why would the Isrealis allow them back now?
Bidens suggestion was explicitly about allowing Palestinians to flee into Egypt short term
Just how gullible are you? When has any expulsion or relocation of Palestinians out of a territory ever been temporary? Biden isn’t a complete moron. He would know as well as anyone that there is no such thing as a temporary relocation of Palestinians.
People don’t follow news and ignore it then come back making statement that proven wrong and shove it in everyone face.
Reality every person who read history or watch news knows for fact that when it comes to Israel US position has been consistent.
Blaming Palestinians who said “fuck this party that want our vote and continue to kill our families” even though it has proven they reason Kamala lost is Economy.
Continuing this fake narrative outright racist at best.
Reminds me how they kept downvoting people who dispute the numbers of people killed in October 7 which, also proven to be around 800 at best and proven the Israel ordered their soldier to use the Hannibal directive of bombing vehicles regardless who is inside.
Yup. This is way too consistent not to be getting pushed from somewhere. Literally every bit of Gaza news is just a bloody rag to be used to blame the left to these guys. It’s getting disgusting. And they’re alienating people instead of bringing them together
The protest $hill Stein voters still gonna claim the righteous high ground while excoriating Biden/Harris/Democrats even though every last detail of this story was floated by Trump and pals during the election.
And the “Free Palestine” mass protests have all but stopped since Election Day, movement leaders (who exactly were they?) having achieved their goal of disenfranchising Democrats (but ZERO protests against the Republican Congress that approved funding for Israel).
Mass protests have stopped. A handful of people meeting at a coffee shop or vigil is a stark contrast to bridges and roads being blocked, to school administration buildings occupied. The US is 330 million people and you get how many at a protest now?
And that website is all about Israel and nothing about forced relocations of two million people and the US annexing Gaza for development. But those aren’t Democrat proposals, so whatevs…
Aww, y’all hitting the down arrow instead of addressing what I said…. I have been put in maw place!
The protests have not stopped.
Trump seems to practicing a classic example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinkmanship
Not sure if purposefully or just accidentally.
It’s ironic that China seems to be the country supporting the Palestinians, I kinda feel we might be the baddies.
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Sadly every major power tends to be the baddies to some extent, it’s how they get to be and stay major powers. We just get to grade on a curve. Nazi Germany really set the curve and the US got to be the pretty unambiguous good guys, at least up to the firebombing campaign in Japan, the nuclear bombs, and being complicit after the fact in Japanese atrocities by shielding them from consequences.
While we have an “ambient” level of baddie-ness most of the time, we at least have balanced it out by sometimes defending against unjust violence and providing humanitarian aid.
Now Trump seeks to turn that baddie scale up to the max while simultaneously cutting out all aid efforts.
Not ironic it all.
The US condemns China for the treatment of the Uyghurs. US good, China bad.
China condemns the US for the treatment of the Palestinians. China good, US bad.
Both countries don’t give a shit about either.
Aaaaand, why is the president of the US making plans for the people in a county he has no authority over again?
Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a “real estate development for the future.”
I will make the best Economy evah!
Lol no, om going to use the US funds to pay for millions of refugees that I artificially created so that I can have my very own Riviera for free
The fiscally conservative party at its finest, everyone
Cool plan dude except for the humanity and stuff
Not surprising to say the least. Just have to wonder how bad will it get.
Edit: well that didn’t take long. https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-gaza-ceasefire-should-end-saturday-if-hostages-not-released-2025-02-10/
The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you’ve conditioned your victims enough.
I read recently that all conservatism is is “I’m a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them.”
Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.
That is a hell of a sentence. Damn.
HEY, EVERYBODY! LET’S KEEP ARGUING ABOUT THE ELECTION THAT ENDED LAST YEAR! THAT WILL REALLY HELP THE PALESTINIANS!
where are all the conservative instances so we can go DUNK and SLAM on them?
People seem to be happy to do that to each other on Lemmy every time the topic of Palestine comes up.
This morning, I said to someone, “if I challenged you to send one e-mail to a celebrity or politician or business leader asking them to use their ability to get the ear of the media to speak on behalf of Palestinians, would you do it?”
I won’t keep you in suspense. They never responded. Because pointing fingers and accusing others of being in favor of genocide is much easier. And fun!
you know what Flying Squid - I’m gonna email my senator right now. 🐙
Thank you! I wish more people did such things!
Absolutely. Anyone posting about Biden, Harris, or Democrats committing genocide etc. Especially still now. Is either just virtue signaling or trying to sew discord, and not actually interested in helping anyone but themselves.
It was a disingenuous claim from the start. It really downplays what genocide is. I say this as someone who’s family has been subjected to various forms of genocide by the US government as recently as my grandparents.
The US government as a whole has been enabling genocide in Palestine for at least a half century. And that’s shameful enough without false accusations. Well, they might become true now. But even then it’s not about any one person. Even Trump. He couldn’t do much without the craven, spineless and bigoted Republican party. And even they would struggle with out all the self-interested Democrats on the dole as well. The system is the problem. Swapping out any individual won’t even make a dent. And anyone who implies or acted like it would should have been ridiculed from the start.
The conservative instance is called Reddit and we’re no longer federated with them.
Yea, this stinkin’ debate is just sterile, look ahead y’all, there is a 50m tidal wave coming at everyone while you bicker!
Based on the downvotes, people would much rather bicker and I’m terrible for suggesting people take action instead.
Did they ever really had rights? USA have been arming Israel for the past 50+ years.
These chickens will come home to roost, you know.
Bawk bawk.
I called it. Powers that be want that beachfront property.
Hey, at least it isn’t Kamala doing this. There wouldn’t even be any Palestinians left to not return to Gaza!
