At this point, it’s unclear whether the issues are one-offs or systemic.
1080ti days were just simpler times!
A handful? Wow that’s gotta be like 50% of the 50 series out there!
Well…I mean…that’s kind of bound to happen when you draw 600W into a device that size I suppose. I feel like they’ve had this issue with every *090 card, whether it be cables or otherwise.
Yeah my 3090 K|ngP|n pulls over 500w easily, but that’s over 3 8 pin PCIe cables, all dedicated. Power delivery was something I took seriously when getting that card installed, as well as cooling. Made sure my 1300w PSU had plenty of dedicated PCIe ports.
Yeah pulling nearly 600w through a connector designed for 600w maximum just seems like a terrible idea. Where’s the margin for error?
God damn… 600w?!
Is this thing supposed to double as space heater?
What do people do in the summer. That’s got to cost monthly cash to run it and cool it. 20 bucks.?
Yup. Pretty dumb.
My +10 year old GTX780 would pull 300W at full tilt, and it has only a ridiculous fraction of the compute power. The radeon 6990 would pull +400W… high end GPUs have been fairly power hungry for literally more than a decade.
GTX 780 released in 2013?
RTX 3090 was 350W?
RTX 4090 was 450W?
So if by decades you mean this generation… then sure.
Haha yeah I mistyped the years, it was supposed to be +10 and not +20…nevertheless these cards have been pulling at least 3-400W for the past 15 years.
As it so happens around a decade ago there was period when they tried to make Graphics Cards more energy efficient rather than just more powerful, so for example the GTX 1050 Ti which came out in 2017 had a TDP of 75W.
Of course, people had to actually “sacrifice” themselves by not having 200 fps @ 4K in order to use a lower TDP card.
(Curiously your 300W GTX780 had all of 21% more performance than my 75W GTX1050 Ti).
Recently I upgraded my graphics card and again chose based on, amongst other things TDP, and my new one (whose model I don’t remember right now) has a TDP of 120W (I looked really hard and you can’t find anything decent with a 75W TDP) and, of course, it will never give me top of the range performance when playing games (as it so happens it’s mostly Terraria at the moment, so “top of the range” graphics performance would be an incredible waste for it) as I could get from something 4x the price and power consumption.
When I was looking around for that upgrade there were lots of higher performance cards around the 250W TDP mark.
All this to say that people chosing 300W+ cards can only blame themselves for having deprioritized power consumption so much in their choice often to the point of running a space heater with jet-engine-level noise from their cooling fans in order to get an extra performance bump that they can’t actually notice on a blind test.
Running 600W for 12 hours a day at $0.10 per kWh costs $0.72 a day or $21.60 a month. Heat pumps can move 3 times as much heat as the electricity they consume, so roughly another $7.20 for cooling.
All electronics double as space heaters, there’s only a minuscule amount of electricity that’s not converted to heat.
Thank you for the good math!
All that cost and this is what you get…
The person on reddit used a third party cable instead of the one supplied with the device.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ilhfk0/rtx_5090fe_molten_12vhpwr/
It melted on both sides (PSU and GPU), which indicates it was probably the cable being the issue.
12VHPWR is a fucking mess, so please don’t tempt fate with your expensive purchase.
So, when is the first party cable going to be launched? The device only hast an adapter shipped with it, which won’t help you connect to the PSU 12VHPWR.
https://youtu.be/Ndmoi1s0ZaY?si=SWRjC4AgseXSmOrm
https://youtu.be/kb5YzMoVQyw?si=eSGnUbFv6OJ4jtEg
It’s poor design on Nvidias part. There is no load balancing.
That’s bad, but that aside - It might be time to consider alternate power delivery to these cards. The power they need should warrant having a standard c13 plug directly on em or something.
Four of the standard 8 pin PCIe power connectors would work well.
The new connector really should have used some large blade contacts to handle 50 amps.A mini fusion drive, perhaps?
Power the house with it when not using the PC, but expect brown outs when gaming.
c13 plug
Who would’ve thought… 3DFX was apparently ahead of its time…
Is this the fabled Bitchin’ Fast 3d?
What I’ve learned from this whole fiasco after owning a problem-free 4090 for over 2 years:
- Don’t use 3rd party connectors, and don’t use the squid adapter in the box. Use the 12VHPR cable that came with your PSU or GPU. If your PSU doesn’t have a 12VHPR connection, get one that does.
- Don’t bend the cable near the connection. Make sure your case is actually big enough to avoid bending.
- Make sure it’s actually plugged in all the way. If you didn’t hear a click, it’s not plugged in all the way.
- Don’t keep disconnecting the cable to check for burns. The connection is weak and designed to fail after only a handful of disconnect/reconnects. If you followed the 3 steps above perfectly, you have nothing to worry about.
That said, I’m skipping this GPU generation (and most likely the next one as well). Hopefully in 2-4 years AMD or Intel will be on more level grounds with nVidia so that I can finally stop giving them money just to have good ray tracing performance.
I got lucky and picked up a 7900 XTX for a reasonable price last gen and it’s been a really great card. I’ve got a couple systems coming up on needing a refresh (1080 Ti and a 2080 Ti) and I’m planning on upgrading both of them to a 9070 XT. I’m staying away from Nvidia until they start pricing their GPUs at prices actual consumers can afford instead of corporations looking to build AI farms.
Strolls nervously through room with RX 580…
Are people improperly connecting them again?
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Strange, a second nickel just appeared in my hand.
I got a dime. Also, the monkey’s paw just curled another finger, but that’s not important.
I really appreciate the specificity of the headline, rather than the clickbait it could have been.
Better would have been:
Handful of users complain about 3rd Party Cables Melting Their 5090FE.
