I’ll go
- I’m not alone.
- Trump:
Declares martial law
Or
Has defied court orders
Or
Has committed violence against government officials
Or
Dissolved all other branches of government
There is probably more but these are ones that come to mind.
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literally anyone asks me to set up my grill at the protest. I’m down.
Protesting accomplishes very little (I won’t say nothing) so I’m gonna go with… nothing, I’m gonna continue using my time better.
Speaking as a former longtime activist.
Go meet people and form communities, working groups, whatever. If going to a protest makes you feel better go nuts.
But the actual work is done outside the protests. If you want to do something useful, find that.
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Cool. Have fun.
I’m 38, I’ve been doing this a while. I camped during Occupy. I formed coalitions during the first Trump administration. I’ve helped start chapters of a couple organizations in my region, and people in my community know me. That’s worth more than your comment.
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What am I supposed to be grateful for here lmao? One more clueless person on the internet ignoring what activists tell them?
I don’t want more men on the streets, I want men in the kitchen fixing their fucking families.
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Buddy if you just wanna feel good about going to the streets, cool. Enjoy. I’m all for a good riot.
But if you still haven’t idk read Manufacturing Consent etc to understand this shit you’re just playing games.
I’ve been to protests; and I’ve volunteered for political campaigns. The second actually flipped a (US House) seat from red to blue (obviously the work of many people; I’m not thinking I was the deciding factor but it was a close election). The first left me with a pink hat and no noticeable change in how elected leaders acted.
I need to be convinced the protest will achieve measurable changes; otherwise I’ll spend my time looking for the upcoming elections where there are close enough margins to feel my actions make a difference.
Okay okay
Why were you convinced protesting achieves change? How does that happen?
What changes did you want to see? How did you expect those to be implemented?
This sounds to me like “I’ve done a politics once”, not any actual understanding of protests and their history
protesting is where you meet these communities and working groups.
Many years ago, I formed the opinion that protests rarely accomplish anything useful. If the government has decided to pass a particular bill, build a dam, cut costs or whatever, people often respond by protesting. Usually, the bill is passed, the dam is built and costs are cut regardless. The way I see it, protesting gives people a chance to feel like they’ve done their part, while the government does what they wants anyway. From the perspective of the government, it’s useful to allow people to have a channel where they can safely vent their anger. If you make protests illegal, people will form a resistance and start a guerrilla war, and that never ends well.
There are notable exceptions too, so not all protests end up being useless. It’s just that the probabilities aren’t in our favor. You proposed other forms of political activism, and I totally agree.
To me, all of this is rather theoretical, because I’ve never actually participated in any of this. Instead, I’ve just observed these events from the outside, while you’ve seen it from the inside. I’m really curious to know if agree or disagree with these thoughts.
Protests are great for bringing issues to light. They can make people and groups visible to garner support. They also take a long period of time to be effective, because people have to understand and find a way to relate to thr message.
All of the shit the current administration are doing are blatantly illegal and protests won’t address that because the people who can do something about it are complicit and the morons who voted for this are getting what they wanted. They may eventually regret it, but only when they are personally impacted.
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Nice try, Elon.
If I was musk, I’d look you up with all my government knowledge and send the IRS after you.
I’m not American, so probably not until he escalates his messing with other countries to the bombs and guns stage.
When republicans realize the massive fuck up they created and join the protest as well. Otherwise no protest will matter. You’d need a Luigi miracle realistically
Luigi didn’t solve anything. He’s barely ever mentioned anymore. All he did was empower corporations to become more corrupt.
You think him not being mentioned is a coincidence? I think it’s mainstream media doing damage control to reel in their prior reporting. Since he was at large for a while his face and later his name was EVERYWHERE. In cases of mass shootings the shooter is almost never mentioned or named anymore. There’s a reason for that
Media plays a big part in encouraging copycats looking for their weeks of infamy. In the past it used to be serial killers, then years ago it was mass shootings, and thanks to the instant stardom they gave Luigi the near future could very well be more assassinations.
Right or wrong his success was demonstrating that being rich doesn’t mean someone is untouchable.
His plea was entered just the other day
It will take the protests being armed.
Because if the protests aren’t armed, they’re not going to accomplish anything. There will be no change if the wealthy class isn’t made to live in fear of the public.
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Calm yourself Mario, Luigi tried & failed
Implying he’s in the hole and will never see the light of day again when his trial hasn’t even started
tried and failed
He literally shot the guy three times in the head lol
For this he is scum.
The guy that killed the blood sucking parasite who got richer denying critical care to insured patients after they’d paid his company tens of thousands of dollars?
Sounds like a hero to me.
Maybe he means failed to enact meaningful change? I don’t much had changed internally for insurance companies other than getting a legal basis to stamp out any vocal dissent as a “threat”.
Don’t count him out yet. Change is slow. I know we’re used to hearing about revolutions in the aftermath, with the whole complete story. We’re living one now, and it’ll go slowly at first.
Change will come much quicker when protest groups ditch peaceful protest and show up armed, en masse, with AR-15’s.
Guaranteed.
My wife would need to pass or literally lose the ability to keep a roof over our heads. Its pretty much leave the country or death for us in many of your scenarios.
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He invades Canada.
Sorry yall but I left America so I’m hoping you can sort out your own shit.
Chronic pain and non-typical sensory needs will pretty much forever keep me from marching or protesting. That and the number of times I’ve been “disrupted” or “inconvenienced” because “that’s the point of protest and if you don’t get that then you’re clearly part of the problem”, only to have nothing change in the long run after said protest, I’m not willing to put my limited physical and mental resources on the line for “maybes” and “hopefullys”.
If Trump starts invading my country, I’ll happily not only take to the streets, but I’ll sign up for military training and defend it.
A viable protest of decent size in my city that I can join. Even a few hundred people would be enough. Organized enough that I hear about it a week out and can shift my plans to be there.
Your *third “or” happened already.
(The violence one)
Talking Jan 6th?
Probably: getting laid off due to collapsing economy.
I’ve already taken to the street in protest, starting eight years ago. Anyone who hasnt yet either isn’t going to or is just now coming of age.
Same. I was there for the Women’s march, there for BLM, after George Floyd, and most recently for the 50501 (which was surprisingly well attended despite it’s quick set-up). Let me know if there’s another one, and I’ll be there too. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
