everyone forgot about circles.
Holy crop! Ancient egyptians would never have had the tools to produce something like this.
The show was a good entertainment with some amount of exposition to historic artifacts and construction and cultural remains still present…
Also the host’s hair was nice.
Anything is divisible by pi if you approximate hard enough
What’s way more interesting, imo, are the theories about lost civilizations.
Allegedly, some advanced civilization(s) existed before recorded history. I heard they found some artifacts in Egypt, seemingly made with tooling and techniques too advanced for the old Egyptians. Moreover there appear to be records suggesting some pyramids where there before the Egyptians build their own.
Very cool stuff, definitely more plausible than aliens, but I never looked into it any deeper.
Any word on which tools or techniques were “too advanced” and, more importantly, why they were considered so? I understand that the tech that gets developed natively will vary greatly from region to region, but any group that has active trade with outside groups could get access to tools and knowledge they wouldn’t have developed themselves.
I think it was something along the line of their stonework seeming almost too good to be true. Historians apparently dismissed the idea, but some engineers insisted that it seems near impossible to shape (some specific types of) rock as perfect as they supposedly did without precision tooling. There are explanations historians came up with, but apparently these were dismissed by the engineers and no one replicated and mastered the proposed methods.
But maybe the Egyptians were just amazing craftsmen that invested crazy amounts of ressources/time into a very intricate manufacturing process. I’m no expert on these things. I just like the idea that they found a random Pyramid in Egypt and spend the rest of their days building geometric shapes in the desert, because they thought it was pretty neat 😄
More advanced than Egypt but not enough to have surviving art/writing/or any stone artifacts. Seems unlikely, without any more information I would guess that they were either wrongly dated or the Egyptians were at the time more advanced than we knew
Entirely possible, or they existed so long ago there’s not much of anything left. What’s the possible time span since humans spread over the world? Thousands of years?
Edit: I just realised that it’s probably tens of thousands.
I love to think of an ancient Egyptian stone mason who has spent the last 40 years of his life honing and perfecting his craft, until one day he puts his efforts into making a supreme piece of work.
Then some chucklefuck who has never handled a hammer and chisel in their life tries to replicate it. Gives up after a week and is all: “The technology used was way too advanced!”
Relevant Philomena Cunk
This reminds me of an episode of Unsolved Mysteries about pets. A woman was rescued from drowning by her dog, and they went on to interview a bunch of fakers like psychics and such and spent a bunch of time theorizing that maybe the dog was some reincarnated family member or that it had some amazing magical mental connection to her.
Then they had a biologist on for like 20 seconds who was like, there’s no magic here, the dog (a Neufoundland) did exactly what it was bred to do - pull people out of the water. Which IMO is just as fucking interesting as Fluffy being psychic but that’s just me.
Of course they quickly made sure to have Bob jump in and cast doubt on all that sciency BS before signing off on that segment. And while typing this it occurred to me that this sort of preying on superstition and ignorance explains a lot about why we are in the mess we’re in right now.
Neat! My mom’s golden retriever used to try to “save” people from swimming in a pool by jumping directly on top of them, we had to train her to stop.
tiered looking palaeontologist
Suspicious at best. Pyramids are in on the conspiracy.
That Occam guy may have been on to something…
He only was selling shaving supplies.
Not with that attitude
Pi is just kinda like that. It pops up everywhere if you look hard enough for it.
If ancient aliens types had paid attention to math past middle school, they’d shit themselves with how much e shows up.
How hard I gotta look? Kinda hungy rn.
But everyone knows the pyramid was invented before the wheel, duh.
/s
Native americans built pyramids yet never invented the wheel!
/s?
But just in case: Indigenous Americans had wheels pre-1490s, just not wheels on vehicles… Toys had wheels, and probably some measuring devices.
Why /s?
The Dynastic egyptians didn’t know about the wheel…
So that it matches the circumference of the earth almost exactly?
Lucky guess.
Is the flat earth round or a triangle?
I thought it was banana shaped?
Divisible by pi in what units? Surely not meters, they weren’t in use back then.
Any unit since pi is a ratio of radius to circumference(π=C/𝒅). That’s the point of the image - if you measured using circles, EVERYTHING would be a ratio of pi in some way you could discern.
The post refers to d = C/π turning out to be an integer. Therefore, what unit did they measure C in?
The circumference of some unit wheel. If you make a wheel that is 1 unit in diameter in any unit X that you please and measures things by placing a mark on the wheel where it touches ground at your start point and counting off full revolutions as you roll the wheel, stopping when that same mark is at the bottom then your measurements are always going to be countsize of X unitpi. If you do more than one such measurement in total then all of your measurements are going to be divisible by the size of unit X and pi. If there’s any record of what unit X is (and if you engage in a lot of trade there just might be), then the whole thing becomes kind of obvious when someone converts to the lengths to your units and always gets a multiple of pi.
Yeah, if the historians know what the unit is - obviously. My entire point was that the original “quote”, if you can call it that, fails to address this.
Why are you bringing the speed of light into this? Also, d is 6 inches.
🤓🤫errmmm akshuallly speed of light is almost always lowercase c
Gave me a chuckle.
No, it does not say integer. It says “all the sides being divisible by pi” aka “a ratio of pi”
That is not what divisibility commonly refers to. In the normal context, one number is divisible by another if the division yields an integer. 4 is said to be divisible by 2 but not by 3.
With your definition:
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It would not make sense to say something is “perfectly” divisible. Duh, everything is divisible by everything except zero.
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It would not be surprising that the length of the piramid is divisible by pi. Duh, everything is divisible by everything except zero.
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The response to that statement would not need to mention circles at all. Duh, everything is divisible by everything except zero.
Look, if you don’t understand math just say so.
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If d is a whole number. Therefore, what unit did the “historians” measure the pyramids with?
probably that one of the sides was a * n * pi long and the other was b * n * pi where a and b are integers and n is whatever unit they were using
It is a pyramid. The sides are supposed to be of the same length.
And then you can always define an arbitrary unit of measurement that will get you an integer number when multiplied by pi.
Historical measurement units were all over the place, so it is really easy to find a plausible value that gives you whole numbers.
That could still be any number n: 1.4337 or 128.382 or 0.001848. It does not make sense.
It does not make sense.
Uh… are you expecting them to?
Never understood the whole conspiracy angle on the pyramids. When I was in school we always learned that the fascination with the pyramids wasn’t just with the labor, engineering and man power required but with the division of labor, the social command and the economic planning required.
Remember that the pyramids have no direct tangible return on investment and were multi generation endeavors. So the question encroaching a contemporary observer is: ¿What must the structure of a society look like that produces such monuments?
Never understood the whole conspiracy angle on the pyramids.
Racism. Every stupid conspiracy involving ancient civilizations is always rooted in some sort of racism. “Egyptians aren’t white, so they clearly couldn’t have done something so big by themselves!!!” - “The Mayan nobility is depicted as having weird shaped heads, thus it was aliens that taught them how to make those great pyramids!”
Fascinating article
