• @[email protected]
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    1262 months ago

    Fuck Trump & Musk. If I was in any position to, I would kill them myself, and if you ever are, it’s your moral obligation to, as well.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      The secret service would kill you if it was Trump. I don’t think it’s a worthwhile trade, the old guy’s going to die soon anyways. His life is not worth more than yours.

      Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.

      I agree with the sentiment though. I think they both deserve to be executed.

      Trump should have been executed for treason in 2021.

      • @[email protected]
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        302 months ago

        Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.

        How long are you guys gonna keep making this argument? They will fabricate any excuse they need, unconstrained by whether or not you actually fought back.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 months ago

          I find it interesting that this basically never happens. The security details of these guys basically never turn against them. Not just US guys but all the dictators and brutal warlords and such. And I get that it makes sense to be quite rare, but I genuinely know of zero instances of it.

          Not that I’ve done deep historical dives, but…is there any instance of a ruler’s bodyguards/security murdering them for the harm they’re causing? Cause presumably these people have others they care about that may be being harmed by the things going on.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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            62 months ago

            Indira Gandhi was killed by her Sikh bodyguards because she ordered army to kill Sikh terrorists including their leader, Bhindranwale.

    • @[email protected]
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      522 months ago

      Harm reduction can take many forms. I’ve always said eating the rich is vegan, but honestly so is punching Nazis. You don’t always get a chance to do one, let alone both but when you can, you should.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      Nah, I’m not shooting anyone. And I’ll decide for myself what my moral obligation are, thanks.

  • Not Chad McTruth
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    112 months ago

    you shouldnt judge someone based on the instance they choose to moderate on thats just as bad as judging someone for their sexual orientation and if you want to see change you should become a lemmy world mod and be the change you want to see

    • @[email protected]
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      102 months ago

      This just in: LW mods win oppression Olympic gold over sexual minorities.

      What a ridiculous comparison.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        32 months ago

        Same people who said criticizing political officials for their actions actually makes you a secret Trump supporter.

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      thats just as bad as judging someone for their sexual orientation

      As a queer person and a mod on lemmy.world, no it absolutely is not. Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. An identity is 100% not the same as willingly choosing actions. You can disagree with the broad statement but equating it to bigotry is wildly out of touch.

      Please don’t use this analogy again.

      • Not Chad McTruth
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        52 months ago

        the two have in common the fact that a part of their identity regardless of choice is being attacked for no other reason than that
        demonizing people is demonizing people

        are you going to demonize or mock someone who has chosen to be a cleaner or a fast food worker are you going to demonize or mock someone who believes in god and is living peacefully with their neighbours

        • @[email protected]
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          162 months ago

          Valid criticism is not demonization.

          Also, please don’t compare innate qualities with literal choices.

          PS: Punctuation can be your friend

          • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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            42 months ago

            Actual criticism of people? Just as bad as being racist and bigoted!

            Trump saying stupid shit? It’s his right!

            Liberals.jpg

          • Not Chad McTruth
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            32 months ago

            it is odd how prophetic the first matrix movie was despite being a part of the machinery itself btw its worth reading simulacra and simulation as the first movie is a decent film representation of the premises in the book warning its a heavy read philosophically free your mind

        • @[email protected]
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          122 months ago

          Ah, I wasn’t aware that I shouldn’t demonize the imps crawling out of the pit of hell in front of me. It’s only fair, they’re only advocating for Satan - they aren’t actually Satan himself.

          You fucking donkey.

          • Not Chad McTruth
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            62 months ago

            then if you find the lemmy world bad why not become one despite your distaste for the posotion someone needs to do the work better a conscientious individual such as yourself

            alternatively create a better system of community moderation on a local level and lead by example it would be better for the fediverse as a whole for people to stop being so complacent and change things in their local community

    • Tanis Nikana
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      102 months ago

      You should get some punctuation in there, man. Maybe a period, or a comma, or an exclamation point could help break up that endless flow of words.

      • Not Chad McTruth
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        72 months ago

        no thanks i wont be using your elitist nonsense those little dots are made up and useless and a clear marker of government control because you know who used that stuff thats right hillary clinton and also adolf hitler both badguys

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          They’re used to convey information and make text more readable, but sure, okay.

          (addemdum: and now I saw their username. I think I just ate the onion.)

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      The reality is that complacency is complicity. I would agree that LW mods don’t make up the instance rules, but if they are actively enforcing the rules instead of turning a blind eye then that is something that can be judged.

      And this absolutely is not comparable to someone’s sexual orientation lmfao. Judging based on someone’s sexual orientation is bad. Judging someone based on the rules they enforce is 100% fair.

      Inb4 of any bs that I’m advocating anything. I’m not. I’m speaking generally and I’m saying if you enforce a rule you inherently support that rule and those it defends in that context

      • Not Chad McTruth
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        42 months ago

        by that logic youre saying its okay to judge police officers for their profession so you might want to rethink that and edit your comment

        • mozingo
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          52 months ago

          It’s absolutely okay to judge police for their profession, wtf are you on about? They chose the job they can quit whenever they want. They weren’t born cops.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 months ago

          Reread what i wrote. I don’t judge police officers for their profession

          I judge people for their actions… the rules they choose to enforce.

          If someone enforces bad rules, then yes, i will judge that and i won’t rethink that.

  • @[email protected]
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    122 months ago

    Could be worse. Try saying anything critical about Putin to the admins of .ml. Instant ban from like, 20 different communities.

    And for that matter, just politely disagree with the hive and see how fast you get Rule 1’d.

    Not in anyone’s defense, but I’m pretty certain I read that .world is hosted in the Netherlands and are subject to the laws there. Suggesting harm on others is against the laws there or something.

    .ml has no excuse for their authoritarian bullshit.

    • @[email protected]
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      172 months ago

      Yeah that’s bullshit. I have said plenty of anti Putin stuff in my instance. Same for being critical of China. I just don’t spew propaganda without context when I do.

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        Cool. Check the modlogs bud. Also, I said to the admins, not just in some random shithole edgelord community. One of them even refuses to answer when asked if they support Putin.

        Also, I went back 8 months of your comments. Not a single opinion that goes against the hive was posted in .ml. You brought your shit to world and posted it there where it’s allowed.

        Imagine that.

        • @[email protected]
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          122 months ago

          I just checked them: you’re not banned from .ml, but you are banned from several . world coms for being too right wing even for them.

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            ROFL!

            I’m banned from a troll community I never even posted in, WAS briefly temp banned for arguing with some tankie kid, and “shitprop?” I’ve no fucking clue what that even is.

            Nice little gotcha attempt though. It was cute. But… I’d advise you to put out the fires in your own house before lighting matches in the yards of others, because you really Shouldn’t be taking. Your modlog reads like a cautionary tale on how not to conduct yourself amongst adults.

            • @[email protected]
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              132 months ago

              You probably shouldn’t have told people to check your modlog if you were going to lie about your modlog.

              I’m not sure why you’re trying to deflect to mine: you were the one complaining about being banned from .ml when you aren’t.

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                The reason I haven’t been banned from .ml is because I don’t create content for shithole communities with authoritarian admins.

                And here’s my modlog.

                I’ve nothing to hide, bud. It’s all there. Want to compare? Or are you willing to admit your little distraction didn’t work.

                My point is, if someone wants to talk shit about one instance, let’s balance the playing field and call into question another to compare, because it’s commonly known and widely accepted that .ml is run by authoritarian admins that constantly overstep the mod teams there.

                They remove shit that provenly doesn’t break the rules- daily. This is not up for debate. Modlogs are public.

                You tried to make this personal so you can report the conversion and get it removed. I know the game. I’m not playing it. I said what I felt needed to be said. And I’m done.

                Enjoy the last word. Its clearly very important it is to you.

                EDIT: it’s very peculiar how my comments all mysteriously get 4 downvotes almost immediately after I post. I wonder why that is…

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        .dbzer0 is pretty cool for the most part. I have no Issues with them. .ml however, can burn in a dumpster fire for all I care.

  • Obinice
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    172 months ago

    The Fuhrer shot himself, if I recall. Not that I wouldn’t go back in time to shoot him again.

      • @[email protected]
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        Wouldn’t change anything, he only joined an already existing movement and became its leader, but without him it’d simply have been someone else.

        Start at the peace treaties after ww1, already make them similar to the ones after ww2 (promoting strong European collaboration to ensure peace instead of punishing the losers).

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    There’s no need to go around making actionable threats of violence that could be read out in a courtroom, that’s called fedposting. Try this on for size:

    If the right keeps pushing, eventually someone’s probably going to feel like their back’s against the wall with no other recourse. For example, if there was, say, a national abortion ban, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tried to kill the people responsible. Tragic, really, but that’s just the world we live in. Look, I want to do things peacefully, but if I can’t produce results that way, well, it’s not about me, it’s about what’s going to happen if other people lose confidence in my methods.

    A prediction isn’t a threat. I’m allowed to speculate about other people doing stuff, aren’t I? Some historical orgs spoke that way, and their predictions could be eerily accurate.

  • @[email protected]
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    422 months ago

    Aktshually Article 20 subsection 4 of the German Basic Law gives me explicit leeway to shoot the Führer:

    (4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.

    And on his birthday, too!

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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      82 months ago

      That is so fucking awesome honestly.

      “Hey we had someone try this before, if they try again, you are to stop them by any means necessary.”

      Turns out learning from mistakes and history works.

      • @[email protected]
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        The wording includes an important caveat:

        (4) Gegen jeden, der es unternimmt, diese Ordnung zu beseitigen, haben alle Deutschen das Recht zum Widerstand, wenn andere Abhilfe nicht möglich ist.

        This roughly translates to

        Every German has the right to resist those who seek to abolish this [free and democratic] order if no other means are sufficient.

        The conservative politicians/judges have watered it down to the point where you can only violently resist them once democracy has already failed.

  • @[email protected]
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    562 months ago

    “You know how a popular time travel question is, if you could go back and kill Hitler, would you? People are going to be asking the same about Trump and Musk (and Vance and Thiel and a whole mess of others) if the dust ever settles.”

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        Just that it may be radioactive dust this time

        And that’s the big thing that worries me. In the last world war, even in an all-out war with no holding back, there was a limited amount of damage that could be done to the world and civilization. Today? We have enough nukes to destroy human civilization a dozen times over.

      • @[email protected]
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        142 months ago

        Lmfao, do you live under a fucking rock?

        Fascist parties have been gaining power all over Europe (and elsewhere) for ages, and have gotten significantly emboldened and actively backed by him since he became president whatever his dictatorial title will end up being.

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          72 months ago

          Check the username. Also, Western Europe (excluding Britain) is taking this threat pretty seriously if you follow current affairs.

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            Western Europe (excluding Britain) is taking this threat pretty seriously

            What an odd exclusion to make… The government might not be taking it seriously, but most others aren’t either (and why would they? they serve capitalism, not society). Plenty of the people here (in Britain, in case it wasn’t clear) are just as concerned as the rest of Europe (and the world)…

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      52 months ago

      Bleak when only a time traveler from the future can save the world from impending doom at this point.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 months ago

      Go back and make sure everyone involved in Teapot Dome scandal actually get arrested and charged.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 months ago

    Donald Trump and Elon Musk should be assassinated ☺️ 😍 😋 🤪 😇

    Wow, just being able to say that when inciting violence is banned on most other social media felt empowering. I know to y’all this probably comes off as just another basic one-liner comment, but… I’ve only recently started using Lemmy when I used to just browse Reddit without an account. There were times when I almost felt crazy, because I felt so much rage against these rapist scum I thought- given the opportunity- I would end their lives in an instant, consequences be damned. But on Reddit where any talk of violence (against the state) is banned (but violence via political persecution of minorities is A-OK!), I thought I was just a radical extremist.

    And maybe I am a radical extremist, Lemmy as a whole is certainly small enough to be an echo chamber, but in a time where peaceful protest does nothing but paint a target on your back, free speech by necessity needs to include ushering people to make use of “the 4th box of liberty,” the cartridge box. By god does it feel good to finally be able to say that.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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          They wanna be the bar set in hell let’s ensure they go there faster than usual. My grandfather helped them, I’d be happy to continue the family linage of “making them find out after fucking around.”

    • @[email protected]
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      You can even say things like “someone should put a heavy duty zip tie round JD vance’s neck and then leave him to choke in a rest stop toilet”. Or “someone should put powdered death cap mushrooms in Donald Trumps food”.

  • @[email protected]
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    122 months ago

    I unsubbed from everything over there except for Working Class Calendar and Work Reform. Normies that are still normies in 2025 making me irrationally angry.

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      Yup. We’re in an extra normal time and people are still clutching to decorum and civility as if it matters anymore.

    • jadedwench [they/them]
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      This is the argument I get in with people in my life. Even my significant other is starting to fall into this trap that “they can’t hold up cabinet selection” due to some misguided notion that holding your nose and being respectful is necessary. I blame coworkers and not wanting to think about something that stresses them out. It is maddening.

      Thank you for linking the paper.