Summary

Sen. Bernie Sanders is touring Iowa and Nebraska to rally against “the oligarchy,” aiming to energize progressives rather than launch a 2028 presidential bid.

At 83, he seeks to shape the Democratic Party’s future, arguing it lost in 2024 by neglecting working-class voters.

He hopes to influence budget battles and the 2026 midterms, targeting GOP lawmakers in battleground districts.

With Democrats lacking clear leadership, Sanders’ prominence and focus on economic inequality could define the party’s direction in the Trump-Musk era.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        Bernie is trying to pull attention away from the Green Party - Jill Stein and Kshama Sawant - who has already been doing this for months with Workers Strike Back and the Fight the Rich and their two parties conference.

        Bernie is the lullaby singer. He is there to take the power away from the people.

        Remember that the candidate in 2020 who got the largest amount of grassroot small donations - aka the person everyday people donated to the most - promptly folded when he was told that Biden would be the nominee.

        Bernie is not our friend and democrats are not going to win another election again. The time to go green is here.

      • TheLowestStone
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        22 months ago

        Not the person you responded to but, Bernie is great and we really need this kind of stuff right now. Unfortunately, he’s 83 years old. We could really use some new blood on the left.

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          62 months ago

          I think that’s the point of this tour. He isn’t running for president. He’s trying to build a support base for a real alternative.

          That’s presumably AOC but it’s still too early.

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              42 months ago

              The Democratic party, as it stands, is dead and the Greens are stillborn.

              There’s nothing but hopes and prayers to support the idea that the Greens will ever get anywhere in the US. They have neither a policy platform nor any individuals who inspire broad support.

              It is absolutely possible to take over parties from within though. We’ve seen it happen twice with the Republicans. They tried, and failed, to keep the Tea Party from taking over. Then they tried, and failed, to keep Trump from taking over.

              History suggests we have a better chance getting AOC to take over and clean house with the Democrats than we do waiting for the Greens to make any headway.

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                Do note that the only reason the GOP was taken over was because they allowed themselves to be taken over. They run competitive primaries and take their results seriously even if it’ll result in the current party leadership losing power. The DNC is the exact opposite on that front, so just because it worked in the GOP doesn’t mean it’ll work in the DNC.

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                  Maybe. “Allowed” suggested that they wanted or welcomed it.

                  A bunch of formerly powerful people in the Republican party are now much less powerful. Many of them have been sidelined in the Republican party and replaced. Several prominent former Republicans have effectively switched to the Democrats.

                  The Republicans and Democrats have differences in how they structure their organizations but neither one wants to intentionally allow outsiders to take over.

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      Good point, to maintain our clear winning strategy, we need an old centrist. How about Schumer or Pelosi, right? Electing Pelosi would be good for the stock market, and her appointees (whoever donors want) could just run the place, just like Biden’s did.

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      He should be pushing to replace First past the post voting so these 3rd parties can compete with the democrats on who can smash the republicans the best.

      Defeating the Republicans is more important then the Democratic party. Democrats have lost their unearned privilege to go it alone against the republicans. Pass the reforms in blue states and we will work on the red states together

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        That would mean gathering enough support to do it from people that got where they are because of it. It seems impossible.

  • @[email protected]
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    23 months ago

    I admire Bernie but most Trump supporters I met or know seem either very rich, or poor but quite believe he will turn things around and things getting worse before it gets better is ok. We are talking about cult, expecting them being rational is dead end.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 months ago

    I’m subscribed to both his YT channels and he’s been running a full offensive for decades, nothing seems to be changing recently on that front.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 months ago

      Bernie told me to vote for the Democrat every time he lost the primary to them, I did what Bernie told me.

      • Exactly. Read any of his books. He understands that the only way a progressive party will ever gain power in this country is by running as Democrats and exerting progressive political capital to reform the Democratic party.

        Bernie knows that the most staple progressive issues are wildly popular with the American people, and he knows probably better than anyone alive in this country today that progressives are up against on oligarchy with unlimited control over the media and unlimited financial and human resources to fight progressive agendas, and get he still fights. Why? See point two: progressive policy is wildly popular in the United States and we outnumber the billionaires.

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          12 months ago

          There’s no reason we can’t fix that by implementing rank choice voting. It works great in several places in the US.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago

        As much as I hate it … this country is too armed for that.

        Before we have no election there will be a fight.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 months ago

          There have been a lot of opportunities to use those guns for what they are meant for and the only person brave enough to do it was luigi

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        22 months ago

        We have to fight to minimize the damage we cause lashing out at other countries. Sure, there’s only so much we can do, but giving up would be even worse.

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      62 months ago

      and in four years when this shit is worse for the entire planet due to these fuck bags - there will be a ton of comments asking why Americans didn’t stand up to this stuff when if first showed it’s ugly head.

      Best to plant a tree 20 years ago, second best time is now. The damage that is done can be contained to just America if there is an organized opposition and I’m hoping that Bernie starts it.

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        My point wasnt that it was hopeless, my point was that since America is no longer a democracy political campaigning is a thing of the past.

        The only way to stop it now is to go full Luigi

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    343 months ago

    I love Bernie and I admire his tenacity even at 83. But it is not nearly enough by a mile and we should not be relying on 83 year old to generate paradigm shifts. Please, for the love of God, other decent people with influence. Step up.

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      43 months ago

      The Democrats succession planning was/is terrible, which is why an 83 year old independent is one of the few that can rally a crowd. I wish they had done better.

      • @[email protected]
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        43 months ago

        In German class, in Arizona, my German teacher taught us teenage edgelords about Hitler. About his speeches. About his Charisma. He was a cult of personality. He could rally a crowd. If there aren’t videos comparing trump rallies to Hitler, I suggest you make you’re own comparison, and use your own judgment. There’s a reason fascism wins. Hate doesn’t prosper under progressives.

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          53 months ago

          I have a friend who’s really into serial killers and cults, like, he’s listened to the recordings of the final moments of the Jamestown Massacre where you can hear them forcing the Flavor-Aid down people’s throats as the rest gasp and choke and die in the background, and he says that Trump sounds just like Jim Jones. From his speech patterns to the tone of his voice, it gives him chills just how alike they sound.

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      Please

      Ok, good opener, I’m listening

      for the love of God

      Eh. Fuck that asshole sideways.

      other decent people

      We’re back on, yeah!

      with influence.

      Ah. That’s a no-go, sorry. Especially not in this fascist-breeding-pit climate…

      Step up.

      Hunh. Might be why the only guy stepping up is Bernie. He’s so old, he’s in Death’s phone contacts under “guy @ work”. 🙃

      • @[email protected]
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        Democratic Socialists had a pretty serious recruiting campaign for the 2018 midterms. Cold-called potential candidates, offered training for both speechifying and organizing. Put up actual progressive candidates against incumbent dems in carefully chosen districts. That’s where “The Squad” came from.

        Then they just kind of disappeared.

        My point is that there are people out there willing to step up, but probably not thinking that they could be a “real” candidate and win, put up with the hassle and harrasment. People who would answer if called, but aren’t ready to jump in unasked. Bernie’s asking.

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          “Disappeared”? The Squad was literally targeted by the same fascists dismantling our nation this very moment (and those other cowards fired before them) until The Squad’s efforts were off the first few pages… and relegated to those who actually read (the Venn of that group and fans of The Squad is almost a single circle). FWIW, “disappeared” is exactly what the opposition prefers us to believe. Don’t.

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            12 months ago

            Of the 5 current US reps with DSA history, DSA only endorsed 1 in 2024. They don’t even support AOC anymore. Maybe they’ve just refocused their efforts on state level races - which are definitely more ‘winnable’ and definitely an important part of building a pipeline to national office - but far less visible to people who don’t live in any targeted districts. To my view, they’re not the national joke that the Green party is, but they’re much harder to see than they were six years ago.

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              12 months ago

              Fuck the Democrats™, in office or otherwise; they’re not your friends or neighbors, and have shown they’re capable of nothing more than jerking the ripcord when the Turd Reich yells “Pull!”

              How many clays get launched before we legit recognize this isn’t just for practice? Sub-question: how many rounds would you guess before your “turn” down the slide, into the sky and their iron sights, fellow pigeon(s)?

              ✊🏼 The revolution may not be televised, but if anyone out there is waiting to catch the reaction vids first before forming an opinion? You’re not in traffic, you are the traffic. Pick a lane.

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      273 months ago

      AoC has been highly visible in news and media so she’s also giving it a go. I think one of our real issues is that leadership wise Jefferies is alright but Shumer is downright depressing.

      Over the next two years we’ll see a constant push by establishment dems to push out the progressives because centrist politicians on both sides want to keep a pro-corporate status quo.

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        22 months ago

        She looks great, but is it worth risking more MAGA on America voting for a woman? A third time? They think they were radical voting for “the black man”. Voting a woman seams beyond America even if the other choice is Trump or not voting. God know what the state the world is going to be in by the time another US election is due, let alone if it’s allowed to happen and be remotely free and fair.

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          72 months ago

          Around the world, countries voted for change last year, not just America. Not necessarily good change, but people were unhappy and didn’t like the way things were. When Biden dropped out, there was massive excitement that maybe Kamala would offer good change, but eventually she promised more of the same.

          I’m not saying sexism wasn’t a factor, it was. But it wasn’t the only factor. And Trump’s margin of victory wasn’t so large that we should just write off all women because Trump won against two women who allowed him to be the “change” candidate.

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            22 months ago

            See from here in the UK, both women seams good enough and miles better than Trump. I think it says a lot about the US that both times they choose Trump over these clearly competent woman. The US just isn’t as socially progressive as Democratic leadership seam to think. I agree there was more than just misogynism going on, but it seams like it was a solid chunk of it.

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              See from here in the UK

              Sorry UK, you’re very much in the same boat with us americans. Nothing an American or Brit says about politics will be taken seriously by anyone. A literal clown with a painted face would be taken more seriously than either of us.

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                22 months ago

                Yer, Brexit is our Trump. It hurt us badly and continues to hurt us. We have a more grown up party in power now, but they dare not question Brexit as the popularists will jump on them if they do.

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            Kamala’s biggest weakness was trying herself with Joe Biden. She should have taken a more radical approach and sweeping changes.

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              42 months ago

              I would argue the biggest factor is the lack of a primary. Kamela didn’t get to prove her 2024 chops, along with not having nearly enough time to organize a campaign. Biden and his handlers really screwed the pooch.

              What it really comes down to, though, is corporate donors. Never forget that most of the high democratic leadership are a feckless and dependent lot. Kamela, like the rest, listened to the demons.

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                  72 months ago

                  Her messaging changed midway through her campaign, to one that was friendlier to a center-right disposition. She lost a good deal of her mojo because of that, since she became Biden v2.0. While obviously better than Trump, she was rejected for being more of the same. Many politicians across the globe felt a backlash in 2024 for not trying to rock the boat.

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                42 months ago

                I mean, not having a real platform beyond business as usual, ignoring the cost of living crisis, and expressing a commitment to continued genocide were particularly large factors.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            And Trump’s margin of victory wasn’t so large that we should just write off all women because Trump won against two women who allowed him to be the “change” candidate.

            “Women can’t win” is an excuse to shut out AOC and nothing else.

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          42 months ago

          She looks great, but is it worth risking more MAGA on America voting for a woman? A third time?

          Questions no one would be asking if she were a corporate ghoul.

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            12 months ago

            I honestly don’t think it matters how great or not she is. I just don’t think America will vote for a woman yet. They prefer a rapist fashist narcissist.

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              12 months ago

              I honestly don’t think it matters how great or not she is.

              I honestly think that all the handwringing about a woman not being able to win is because the party hates AOC and everyone she stands for and will happily hold all women back to prevent her from being able to run.

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                12 months ago

                You don’t think it’s that too big a chunk of US voters are backwards misogynists? Wish I didn’t, but I do. I’m not going to get my hopes up a third time.

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        13 months ago

        I was higher on Jeffries until I heard him interviewed by John Stewart. He said a bunch of nothing just like the rest of the party.

        AOC’s interview was significantly better.

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          From Jon’s podcast? Wasn’t that a horrible interview? Jon starts put saying “what’s the plan instead of just saying you have to get the message out” and Jeffries doubles down on “branding”.

          Its really disheartening to see that bullshit gaslighting is still the MO of the Democrats going forward. Every word of that interview was more of the same old shit, and unfortunately Jon didn’t push back on him at all.

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        33 months ago

        Jeffries is horribly corrupt and a total stooge for monied interests. Don’t let his PR team fool you.

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        AOC is now old enough to run for president. I can see her running in 2028 and getting the grassroots support that Bernie enjoyed.

        If anyone can get the youth out to vote she can. they need to focus hard on getting people registered though.

        I also really REALLY hope she doesn’t campaign with a fucking Cheney

        • @[email protected]
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          72 months ago

          So watch them run a pair of old white men, or find another member of the Clinton family that hasn’t had a go yet.

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            Well if we cant get Chelsea Clintin we can tap Hunter Biden right.

            On a more serious note though, I would be comfortable with Michelle Obama from the getgo if she ran. I dont think she’d be easily controlled by the party. She had no time for their bullshit even when Obama was leading the party.

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          The biggest hurdle for AOC is she’s a woman. She is an attractive woman, so that’s beneficial, but I think America has made it abundantly clear that we are happy being misogynistic assholes that can’t trust women with important decisions.

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            72 months ago

            I think this ignores just how uninspiring Hillary and Kamala were.

            Neither really spoke to the working class

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            Can we pleas stop repeating this narrative? Hillary lost because she is an evil ghoul. Harris lost because she kept saying how she will continue the work of Biden who equally is an evil ghoul. And Harris invited Cheney to campaign with her, who is the father of evil ghouls in the 21. Century US politics.

            There is countries more conservative than the US, where women have been Presidents, Prime Ministers and Chancellors.

            Far right and Nazis also dont have an issue with women leaders any more when it comes to elections. Look at Le Pen in France, Meloni in Italy and Weidel in Germany. Ffs Weidel is the nazi candidate in Germany and she is in a lesbian marriage with an Asian immigrant and raises two adopted children.

            Gender has nothing to do with Harris loss and this narrative is kept being peddled to not face why people are alienated by her political program, character and donors.

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              You’re correct that Hilary was awful and Kamala was uninspiring, but that’s still glossing over the fact that they both lost to Donald Fucking Trump, and Kamala did so with the benefit of hindsight.

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                72 months ago

                Then maybe they shouldn’t have run awful people.

                The party pilloried Sanders in 2020 because he allegedly said the same thing to Warren. Now, since the party doesn’t want to run AOC because they hate anyone to the left of Dick Goddamned Cheney now, suddenly the electorate isn’t ready for a woman? Fuck that. Democratic voters no longer want yet another status quo military industrial corpodem.

                Repeat yourself.

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                And she took that hindsight and ignored it

                We told her how to win. She needed the working class. Instead she tried to win suburban wine moms and “sane” republicans.

                America will vote for a woman if that woman doesn’t look down on them. Harris lost at that rally where she shouted down protesters with “I’m speaking”. She told us all she wasn’t listening.

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              Notice how none of those are America? Evil ghouls but somehow evil men get voted in no problem? America well never vote in a Woman sorry.

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            You’re making me feel like I need to punch more sexists that I find. I’m really liking the idea of identifying as a fucking problem these days.

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            12 months ago

            Gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. She is neoliberal garbage like the rest of the party

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          23 months ago

          AOC is now old enough to run for president.

          She was old enough during the last election as well.

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          I also really REALLY hope she doesn’t campaign with a fucking Cheney

          I thought I saw AOC calling out how bad an idea that was, back when Harris did it, so I don’t expect her to make the same mistake

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            “I think there’s plenty of people that aren’t happy about that, and I think that is part of the nature of putting together a coalition,” Ocasio-Cortez, who clashed with Cheney when they were both in the House, said.

            “I don’t love it, but that doesn’t mean that we aren’t on the same team, and we aren’t on the same page when it comes to who is unequivocally the better candidate in order to win the presidential election.”

            https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-liz-cheney-harris-campaign-trump-1976031

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                My read on that statement is “I think this is a bad idea but in-fighting is the last thing we need right now if we want to avoid a Trump presidency.”

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                Calling it out harder publicly during the election would have just made a Trump presidency more likely. It’s similar to how Sanders shut up after Hillary stole the primary and threw his full weight behind her train wreck or a campaign.

                People who actually give a shit don’t want Trump to win and will do whatever they can to keep that from happening.

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                  Yeah that played out great in 2016 and 2024…

                  Of course infighting is bad if it escalates. But candidates who are completely detached from reality, need a reality check.

                  If the Democrats hadn’t waited until Summer to acknowledge what everyone saw with their own eyes, Biden being mentally declined well past the point of doing another 4 years, they could have built a proper campaign with a properly primaried candidate. But the oligarchy doesnt want that, because then topics like cost of living, housing health care and US funded genocide become topics for the Democratic base too.

                  And after Biden came the trainwreck of the Harris campaign. No Charisma, no political character, embracing the oligarchs coming out in support of her and finally closing the coffin with fucking war criminals Cheneys.

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          32 months ago

          I personally would prefer a Bernie/AOC ticket, with Bernie giving a public contract that allows her to have him resigned if his mind starts going. IMO, it would be ideal if we could get 16 years of Bernie/AOC, and more if they can raise worthy successors.

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            Bernie will be 87 in 2028. Unfortunately i think Bernies chance at the presidency has been and gone. AOC/Walz would be nice. Walz proved him self to be likable in the Harris campaign but he doesn’t have the profile that AOC does despite arguably having more experience

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              Walz is the “Israel has the right to expand its borders” guy so you’d have to make him keep his mouth shut over Israel, but fair enough.

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                He ticks the old white guy box so the racists and sexists can feel okay voting for them while still being left enough to not be too much of a drag on the resulting administration

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            With enough support they won’t have the power to choose. It’s an uphill battle but one that we can win.

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              Granted the DNC “changed the rules” but are you forgetting the super-delegates overruling the majority votes in the primaries in 2016?

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              With enough support they won’t have the power to choose.

              If there’s no primaries, no amount of support matters.

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            Looking at how shitty the democrats are now, they don’t have the ability to stop her.

            She just needs to win the working class. There are far, far more of us than the elitist snobs currently running the show on both sides of the aisle.

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            In today’s political climate, I think that’s unfortunately true. It would take some drastic outreach, Obama levels of outreach and more, plus a ton of money to change peoples biases and opinions (again, as of today).

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      WE are those other decent people with influence.

      If you have any ability, run for office and start your campaign now. If not, find a progressive running and join their campaign.

      If the democratic party won’t do their jobs, we need to fucking do it for them.

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    “If the Democrats listened to Bernie, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I assume he feels a deep level of disgust.”

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      because liberals/the left are not a unified party.

      Its 33 different parties in a trenchcoat, unified only by their opposition to the insanity coming out of the right wing.

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        The left and liberals are not even close to each other on the political scale. Liberals share more ideology with Republicans than they do leftists.

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          This one is fun because Republicans told us this and now liberals vote Republican. I love the new world. We do their work for them. They’ve weaponized our autism

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        Cool, so we’re fucked then. It applies to the right as well but they make it work. But the left just comes up with excuses why we don’t even like each other

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          Yes, thats literally what I said, and totally not a projection of your own defeatism which is the actual problem.

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      Just clarifying, are you offering your blood or kidney, or do you just like have a bunch sitting around?

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        I would give Bernie Sanders a blood donation no question.

        Edit I would give him a blood marrow donation no question. Aware of the discomfort and recovery.

        I would legitimately consider giving him a kidney, after certain private conversations and understanding.

        If I can source him a nice kidney, lemme call my guy

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      Yep, he won’t bite the hand that feeds him. He’s a good doggy. Barks loud but when it matters he does exactly what master says.

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        If you look at his vote record he hasn’t bowed to anyone, even when he’s been the only senator voting against something

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          he’s been the only senator voting against something>

          I have literally said this in another comment. He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences. Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.

          I’ll copy another comment on his voting habbits tho :

          VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.

          He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.

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            He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences.

            Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.

            First off, based on everything else he does - who fucking cares fr What a great way to both share your stance on an issue and garner attention for your causes - stand out. It’s both harmless and clever - in American Politics even.

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              TF is this opinion?

              Who cares about his VOTING? The only thing that actually has effect. Right, “but he SAYS what we think so well” that’s what important to you? Great take.

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                Your claim is that “Bernie being the only one voting ‘no’ is virtue signaling.” where my point is that if you know a vote is going to pass or fail, you might as well either stand out of use that opportunity to voice your opinion. If a vote is going to pass regardless of Bernies vote, who care if he wants to use that as a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions.

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                  I have posted an extensive list of his horrible pro-war empire and zionist voting. Leave the " to voice your opinion…a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions." for the brochure. The only thing he’s spreading is the illusion there is place for progressives in that horrible party and to keep gullible people away from 3rd parties that actually want change. End of convo

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                  If they can’t take the truth it’s their problem. They have been screwing themselves for centuries continuing this uniparty BS and their token progressives. AOC can take over from him and they can continue for centuries more. Me personally am doing great and none of this, whoever wins anything affects me in the least. I just don’t get how people can vote against their own interests. Then again there’s black and latinos for Trump so there doesn’t seem to be much logic in people’s reasoning.

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      While I feel bernie wants to save capitalism from itself rather then replace it, I have to admire the persistence. I would have died 3 deaths of despair if I would have gone through what he has. And to just watch the nation melt around you no matter what you do or say.

      Bernie Sanders is a stronger man then me

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    I think the only way the Democrat party meets the current moment is if an AOC or Bernie or similar wins the next presidential primary and aggressively replaces the current leadership.

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      Going to be hard for a progressive to win a primary when the corporate dems flood those campaigns with DNC money for the opposition, or worse just steal the nomination flat-out.

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      agreed, but of the 448 votes for electing dnc party leadership, 248 were dnc insiders, and 200 were handpicked by the dnc to vote, from the pool of state leislators. Theres no way at all to take control of the dnc in any hostile manner. Its just not possible.

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      Current leadership will never let that happen. They will ride the wreckage of our nation into the ground rather than let the party move left or allow substantial power in the hands of non-boomers. We just have to wait for them to die of old age.

      Pelosi Won. The Democratic Party Lost.

      (Pelosi is silent generation ffs! She should have had her hands removed from the levers of power decades ago.)

      Also:

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      First they’ll need to fight to even have a fair election in 2026 and 2028. (Hell, even to have an election).

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        “elections” are a cornerstone of autocracies. There will definitely be an election event.

        Whether your vote is even counted is another question entirely. Same for whether you will be allowed to cast a ballot.

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      So, in the USA, the current presidential candidate of a party is also automatically the head of the party? How do they expect any human to fulfill both roles competently at once?

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    Unless the democratic party’s platform becomes deny the oligarchy access to the levers of power, defend the working and middle class against the billionaires, and depose those who would enact political violence via law or pen, I’m not interested.

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        It’s hard to tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They both seem to embrace the same ideology.

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          No it isn’t.

          Republicans are fascist, eugenicist, lead-addled dementia patients with no regard for human life outside their immediate families and even then only to the degree that they can be exploited. Their core values are narcissism and personal greed.

          Democrats are performatively-compassionate cowards who are terrified of change and value avoiding conflict above anything else. Their core values are looking outwardly like they give a damn and not being yelled at by anybody.

          The two are incredibly distinct from one another.

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            Fascism cannot rise on its own. Fascism is only possible with a weak, complicit liberal party. Their continual ratchet effect has enabled Our current level of fascism in this country.

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        If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a mother fucking duck. He talks one thing while asking us to support his good friends, the oligarchy.

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          right, the only person in washington trying to get money out of politics is for the oligarchy. the one person who brow beats against the oligarchy, is actually for the oligarchy. you’re a straight up moron, my dude.

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            Someone who talks about oligarchy and then tells us that we need to support his good oligarchy buddies is a tool.