• @[email protected]
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      No because there are a million different websites that just don’t follow these rules. All this does is dissuade people who are both clueless about where to find porn and not particularly determined.

      It also won’t make a difference when basically every major social media website is a softcore porn website. I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.

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        I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.

        They did. Under the hashtag ThotAudit, after one thotfluencer said something that could be interpreted as her not paying taxes on the money she was making showing her bits online.

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          I remember that, but I’m like 95 percent sure that was a different faction of conservatives. The current porn bans are being spearheaded by evangelical Christians, while ThotAudit was originally a 4Chan thing.

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      MAGA Republicans: will riot if you give them a Facebook event invite

      Democrats: let’s see, maybe they will riot if you take their houses or something. At least they might write a strongly worded comment

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    I don’t care if kids see porn.

    If that’s the worst thing ever, justifying this invasion of privacy, whoop de shit. Let 'em.

    There’s a lot worse on the internet. There’s a lot worse on daytime television. Blood and guts and cults and informercials. Desirable crude entertainment is obviously not worth locking down the internet. I mean for fuck’s sake, at least with “four horsemen” excuses, like terrorism and money laundering, people agree that those things are bad.

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      The thing is that by now, plenty of adults grew up watching porn when they were minors, and know that this hasn’t been harmful to them… so why are we even still getting laws like that, shouldn’t voters and their representatives know better by now…

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          I’m stealing that for the next time I have to explain that I’m being held up by a third party not doing what they’re supposed to.

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          What about it? Hell of a lot lore likely with caffeine and we don’t make you age verify when a kid buys coffee or tea or soda. If addiction occurs, that’s the jurisdiction of medical professionals and the person’s support network.

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          OK, so we should require everyone to present ID for anything that could be addictive? That’s some awful “save the kids” BS. Screw that!

          If you want to prevent your kids from watching porn, cool, do that. But don’t force everyone else to ID themselves because you’re too lazy to actually parent your kids.

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      Yes, you’re right. But that doesn’t fit with their “think of the children” moral compass. Which isn’t even pointing the correct direction, but good luck convincing them of that.

      I feel like my compass analogy isn’t the best, but eh.

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      I was never exposed to porn on the internet as a child, outside of advertisements and typing website names wrong. I never looked for it either, if a child is actively seeking it out, its up to a parent to deal with it. People should stop making laws to protect bad parents.

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        its up to a parent to deal with it

        What a nice cherry on top of the hypocrisy pie. The party of “personal responsibility” and “small government” is perfectly happy when government is used to regulate sexuality and help out the irresponsible parents that don’t want to spend time monitoring their children’s Internet usage. Now young teens are going to learn how to use VPNs or just find the shadier sites that don’t give a shit about U.S. state laws.

        Both of which would be adequately addressed by parents learning how to use the tools that are probably already built into their router.

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          Exactly. Screw everyone on both sides of the aisle that thinks this is anywhere near a good idea.

          If you hate porn, be vocal about tools to block stuff you don’t like on your own network. Maybe even require ISPs to distribute that info to their customers. But don’t force anyone to do it.

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        Eh, I see it as a necessity in the modern age, it’s politically agnostic for me. I run a full time VPN as a matter of privacy and security.

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          VPN doesn’t really do anything for security, and it only really gives you privacy from your ISP. They’re very much over-marketed by VPN companies.

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              Not really.

              If your browser is properly configured, it’ll recognize a MITM attack, so you’ll know if your traffic is properly encrypted because it checks root certs against a known good set. The only concern is domain name leakage (both from DNS and SNI), but that’s a privacy thing, not a security thing. DoH fixes the DNS issue, so consider that for a low hanging fruit privacy win.

              If you’re accessing things outside a browser… don’t do that on public WiFi unless you can confirm it verifies certificates.

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        Depends on how much other media you consume. If you’re forced to get a VPN anyway I bet you’re more likely to start looking into pirating everything else, too

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      Yeah and just torrent porn or use those debrid services. Stop giving these sites that bend the knee traffic.

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      I spun up OpenVPN on a Digital Ocean droplet 7-years ago. LOL, no longer have any idea how it works, but it’s $6/mo. and never dies. 🏴‍☠️

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    Fortunately, this is easy to work around, just get a VPN hosted in a didn’t different state or country.

    We have something similar here in Utah, so I have a WiFi network that is always connected to a VPN in a neighboring state. If something isn’t accessible, I just swap WiFi networks and I’m good.

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        There are free VPNs as well, such as Proton’s free tier, or Tor. So you’ve got options.

        But yes, I absolutely agree that this shouldn’t be necessary. My point is that it’s largely unenforceable if you put in a tiny amount of effort.

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          Seems like it became so, yea

          But it’s more a question of anonymity / privacy while doing those things

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          Not sure, but it’s very ironic coming from “the land of the free”. Every day there is an american coming out in the Internet with the classic “you don’t have freedom of speech”, and then they have to provide a driving licence for a quickie

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          The porn is just the first place they start, their plan is to label anything lgbt as pornographic and require a similar process to view basic educational content. This is how they get around the 1st amendment.

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              There’s a correlation between people who swallow stupid right wing talking points and people who were unsuccessful educationally. It may be unproductive to take your rhetorical question literally and attempt to provide factual information in response.

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            Oh yeah I do see the slippery slope of this whole deal, the only thing that irked me was the wording of this comment as if xhamster is a basic human freedom, but I find that a little odd since xhamster and pornhub steal from sex workers to provide it “for free” y’know.

            But with the banning of books and trans people unable to get in or out of the country… It is fucked up and scary.

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      Honestly, these laws are just gonna hurt old men in Republican states. Like, I grew up with piracy, torrents, and old school forums. These educated me on computers enough that I made a career out of it. And most of that computer knowledge was gained because I wanted to see big tittied women sit on each other’s faces. These laws don’t stop horny teens from accessing porn. It just makes them better at it.

      And this is definitely not one of the cases of “oh it’ll reduce numbers overall though”. No the fuck it won’t. It’s porn. They’re gonna access it. Literally every YouTuber they watch is sponsored by a VPN.

      The only healthy thing to do is actually talking to your kids about porn. Educating them on its potential harms. But Republicans don’t ever want to talk to their kids. Ironically, these “drain the swamp” people just want daddy government to “prevent” their kids from accessing it. Which these laws don’t do.

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        These laws don’t stop horny teens from accessing porn. It just makes them better at it.

        Exactly. And it punishes the responsible sites that follow the law and drives people to the sketchier sites that don’t.

        If you want more viruses and identity theft, I guess this is a good law for you.

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          Yep. If these red states actually cared about kids they’d care about proper sex education. But I think this stuff just proves that Republicans are afraid of sex. They had an awkward conversation about it with their dad once and have been leaving their wives unsatisfied for 30 years since. They have no idea what to do if their kid actually came home from school and asked them what the difference between a clitoris and a vagina was. They are absolutely afraid of the female body and it’s why they try to control it so much.

          Sorry. A bit of a rant. If this was a different conversation I’d have plenty to criticize about the sex industry too. But these conservatives don’t have enough brain cells to actually talk about the problems with it. So we have old men making laws that do nothing but make them feel better. Or it’s projection for their own porn addiction.

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        Honestly, these laws are just gonna hurt old men in Republican states.

        You know I think a lot more of their politics and general life outlook makes more sense when you understand that probably a lot of these super old guys are not computer literate enough to look up their niche fetishistic porn interests, and are probably still consuming porn the old fashioned way, which is becoming increasingly nonexistent even though it’s still something that actually exists. Plus the propagation of morally puritanical values means that if they kept any of that material around at all, they’d be hypocrites, so they can’t have that. Probably a lot of these dudes are walking around super pent up and sexually frustrated, I’d bet.

        We need to introduce local community college and library courses to teach these elderly boomers how to goon

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          I think your theory is partially correct. But I think it’s just as likely they are gooners themselves. I feel like porn addiction (gooning) is more prolific which people that have reactionary beliefs. My theory is that their political leanings are a counter to their actual actions. I don’t think the gooner needs “material” to goon to. I think in it’s absence it will happen through a Macy’s magazine etc.

          It’s similar almost to priest being the most common pedos. I think these types of conservative/reactionary ideologies just create sexual suppression that manifest in addictive behavior. This is not to say that all conservatives are pedos. But to say that those beliefs combined with sexual suppression often creat these extremes. Whether it be addiction to gooning (outside of their access to goon material) or otherwise.

          Idk. I just think that it’s an unhealthy relationship with sexuality that any generation can fall pray to. But it’s happens more often based on the circumstances of each individual/generation. And it’s why it seems to be so extreme in both boomers and recent generations. They both are experiencing extreme economic material conditions/contradictions.

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            It’s similar almost to priest being the most common pedos.

            Pedos tend to aggregate around any job that will give them trusted or unrestricted access to children. The suppression you’re talking about in this case isn’t just from religion, but permeates all of society. Like, they can’t even hypothetically leave the church and move somewhere more liberal where their desire for kid fucking isn’t being suppressed. At least not until the weird libertarian crypto-bros who oppose age of consent manage to create such a place.

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    Fucking Jesus. They did say they wanted to ban porn and this is only the first step. This will systematically destroy porn and livelihoods. Who in their right minds would upload a picture of their horny selves next to their licence to some likely unreliable site? Lower the traffic and you kill the shit out of sex work. Evil motherfuckers, man.

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    “Verification is carried out by 3rd party”. Totally no potential to misuse of collected data.

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      Well at least it’s not going to the federal government so it should be somewhat safe

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        The third party has a very secure agreement to very securely sell data to 572 advertising partners and that is very securely being bought by the FBI.

        Not that outlandish, since the FBI and the US police already buys advertising data streams to get access to data they are prohibited to collect directly.

        It’s so bad there are already middlemen who buy data and compile it into products for law enforcement.

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          You forgot to mention that of course 253 of the 572 advertising partners consider their use to be a ‘legitimate interest’ under privacy legislation despite being nothing even close.

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        If it was last administration I’d say it’s just slightly annoying that our day was going to the federal government. But it’s admin…maybe not

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          I don’t want any administration to be able to. They should absolutely be able to buy it so long as they have a warrant for that instance of that individual or if the individual agrees to cooperate in that instance without coercion.

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    This is pretense to intrude on other things and more importantly remove the ability to browse pornography anonymously, which is dangerous. I would never use an account to browse a porn site because why would I ever want that data linked back to me? Look at the government right now. You watch a gay or trans porn video and in a few years that could be grounds for never being able to have certain types of jobs or worse, being deemed a “miscreant”

    If this was truly about protecting children they would encourage open dialogue on sex in homes and increase inclusive sex education. This is evidence based. It would still be necessary even with this nonsense because obviously vpns exist, as well as amateur run sites, sites run from outside of the USA, torrents, etc that don’t give a shit about us laws requiring age verification and will show all kinds of obscenely hardcore videos

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      KOSA would require age verification for these sites and social networking. Nationally.

      Luckily the bill appears to be dead

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      It must be real inconvenient to have to turn on a VPN, it’s like a whole button that they have to click, Libs totally owned. Meanwhile the actual weird idiots that voted for this can barely operate a mouse and so they actually do have to suffer the consequences of their own decisions.

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        well yes it’s inconvenient to have to pay to pretend to be in another country to access a website

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          Why another country? Just pick a neighboring state so you don’t get terrible latency.

          And Proton VPN is free and is probably fast enough to get the job done. Or there’s Tor. You don’t necessarily have to pay.

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          Then there’s “normal” websites that use cloudflare and blocks vpn access for no good reason (looking at you Home Depot and Lowe’s), or worse yet, they redirect you to a country-specific website based on the ip location.

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              That’s why they have the ability to lookup and select a store. I actually opened a help desk ticket with Home Depot and they did eventually fix it so vpn is allowed. Lowe’s I kinda just gave up by that point.

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            You mean like Reddit? Reddit folded to OpenAI btw. Open AI was co-founded by Elon Musk. You can just tell they are not on the good side of history.

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              Like a lot of websites. I also forgot to mention how Google has to verify you’re human because you’re on VPN.

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    This is a great opportunity to learn how to use a VPN! I’m in a blue state so haven’t needed one yet, but the time is definitely coming.

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      Yup, my red state pulled this nonsense, so I made a WiFi network that connects to a VPN for you in a less stupid state. If I get blocked somewhere, I just change WiFi networks.

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      Nowadays, there’s not much to learn. For user-friendly OSes, just install the VPN app, sign in like any other service, and, at a minimum, hit “go”. Most people will want to scroll through a list of locations of where they want to appear to be, choose a location, then hit “go”.

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        Oh shitting hell lads, it’s Boris The Bouncer Bot!

        Quick lads, run! Scarper before he tackles and smothers you unconscious!

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        Trump branded chastity cages.

        What I hate most is that that would be an effective tactic for right wing extremist groups. Keeping men sexually frustrated and insecure in their masculinity is a powerful tool for them.

        Actually come to think of it, I really wouldn’t be surprised if there were a variety of political themed pro dommes these days. It seems like it would be lucrative

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      Idaho is starting a registry for at-risk men with erections, to prevent impure thoughts. You need to send a picture of your dick, where it will be validated by an evangelical priest.

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    The whole porn ban thing is probably my all-time favorite example of conservatives voting against themselves.

    Meanwhile, in California, I can watch all the porn I want without registering myself in a database and walk down the street to the weed store. And the women in my life still have rights over their own bodies.

    So I guess Democrats are actually the party of freedom.

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      And your gas costs $10 a gallon and your houses cost $5 million for a shit box. Hmmm… trade offs…

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      B- b- but, California b-b-bad! 🥺 Don’t you see how oppressed you are? You’re really oppressed out there. 🥺

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        California is bad for voting to keep prison slavery and refusing to solve the housing crisis with a council housing system much like the UK used to have.

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          Perfection is the ultimate enemy of good. I’d rather be in a place like California than some red state where I have to upload my ID to look at boobs.

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          Council housing? You mean social security houses that get supplied to you if you earn almoat nothing?

          The Netherlands has that to this day, but that doesn’t solve the issue

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      It’s all relative. Lots of personal freedom, taxed like a mother fucker.

      As it should be honestly but there are many people that don’t see it that way and view taxation as a form of oppression.

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          I don’t think the above commenter is saying GOP isn’t worse, but having lived there for a few years and since moved away, it’s taxed quite a bit more than other states. You definitely get a lot more out of it, so it’s just that tradeoff. Either you pay little taxes and have to pay separately for private things to do everything yourself (good for rich people, bad for everyone else), or you pay more taxes but have way more public services.

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    Florida 🤝 UK

    Ridiculous and archaic anti-porn laws