Anything you say or do on Firefox may be used by Mozilla against you. You have the right to use a different browser. If you cannot find a browser that doesn’t fuck you over one way or another, one will not be provided for you because capitalism is working exactly as designed.

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/information-about-the-new-terms-of-use-and-updated-privacy/td-p/87735

#Mozilla #Firefox #TermsOfUse #SiliconValley #BigTech #USA #AI

  • sb arms & legs
    1•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al
    Has anyone successfully run their own FF sync server? I have tried twice recently with no success.

  • Mess around Marx
    3•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al
    Does that mean, if i type something into a mask on an encrypted website (https), that Mozilla can read it?

  • Hache☕
    5•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al I have a question here, does this also apply to Firefox forks? (I’m affraid the answer is yes…)

    CC: @Waterfox@mastodon.social

    • Aral BalkanOP
      6•5 months ago

      @Hache@masto.es @Waterfox@mastodon.social No, they can’t dictate terms of use for forks without violating their own open source license.

    • Waterfox
      1•5 months ago

      @Hache @aral this doesn’t apply to us, we have our own privacy policy. But bear in mind if you use a Mozilla account/sync you still have to know the terms for those services.

      Just from a cursory glance it doesn’t seem there’s anything egregious with the terms of use or privacy policy update - is there anything specific that sticks out? Legally companies have to provide a privacy policy; terms of use aren’t necessary but just seems to state what is already the case.

      • Aral BalkanOP
        0•5 months ago

        @Waterfox @Hache Mozilla jumps into AI… and now this 🤔. I’m not into giving Silicon Valley tech companies the benefit of the doubt.

        • Waterfox
          1•5 months ago

          @aral@mastodon.ar.al @Hache@masto.es I do note:

          > When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

          That seems incredibly broad, am I misunderstanding where this applies? Surely not just a blanket statement?

  • @BroBot9000@lemmy.world
    7•5 months ago

    I just discovered a Firefox fork called Floorp. It’s being developed in Japan and their privacy policy is very good. Check em out!

  • Me 🐶
    4•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al has anyone used the #TheOnionRouter aka tor browser? @eff@mastodon.social rates it good for privacy.

  • Reay
    1•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al
    @FirewallDragons@mastodon.social My email to you preceded my seeing this, but yeah, in the same vein of questioning…

  • Michael Santaly
    10•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al Another good reminder that just because something is lead by a non-profit does not mean it has inherent ethics or the interests of its consumers in mind

    • Aral BalkanOP
      5•5 months ago

      @wonkothesane@mstdn.social * A not-for-profit that owns a half-a-billion dollar a year for-profit that gets its half-a-billion dollars a year from Google.

  • BigLinter
    1•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al luckily one has a choice… to switch what theyre using.

    one choice might be the tor browser. which is based on ff, lets you import your bookmarks (password import is a bit problematic…) and supports the extensions without that the web would be unbareable.

  • Reay
    2•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al I’ve been noodling on privacy-oriented and non-Chromium options other than FF for a while, and feel a bit hamstrung.

    Really rather avoid Brave for not wanting to support that CEO, and that doesn’t leave much.

    The hope that I can also sync a browser between my iPhone app and Windows laptop seemingly just makes it totally unattainable.

    Wide open to other recommendations.

    • @seang96@spgrn.com
      3•5 months ago

      Donate or support an open source engine so we can leave these baddies behind us https://servo.org/ it was originally a mozilla project but is now its own. I have been watching it for a year and they have made a significant amount of progress but still a lot more to go.

  • Jazzonbike
    1•5 months ago

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al Waht’s about Brave as an alternative?