Uninstalled firefox yesterday. Trying out vivaldi, the company lead has a history of advocacy. Might give librewolf a go soon, need a browser that ping pongs mobile and desktop seamlessly, has ad blocks available and a flatpack.
Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates… I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac
I was thinking of switching to one of the Firefox forks but have only tried Waterfox so far and not super impressed. I guess Firefox is the best out of the bad bunch until I find an alternative I like.
Interesting. What did you dislike about waterfox?
The UI and dialogue boxes look a bit dated, not sure why
Ah fair enough, can’t argue with personal preference.
You sure you weren’t using waterfox classic though? That has a more dated UI than the current version.I personally use librewolf anyway, but waterfox is still a pretty decent step up from Firefox, privacy-wise.
I’ll give librewolf a go. Can I just copy my profile with all my extensions across?
Librewolf is pretty much standard hardened Firefox. So you should feel right at home with that one
Thanks I’ll give it a go
Librewolf looks exactly the same to me
Brave
Despite my issues with it, I use Chrome. It’s simply too integrated into my life. But I just saw (like 2 minutes ago) from another thread here about Zen Browser and maaaan is it nice.
Isn’t Zen just a skin of firefox, so the same issues?
What issues?
Yes, it seems to use the same engine as Firefox.
But not a fork, right? Sorry I don’t understand it clearly.
Zen Browser is a free and open-source fork of Mozilla Firefox, with its main focus being privacy, customizability and design, and it is licensed under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 (MPL 2.0).
Seems to be a fork.
Chromium browsers are affected by any changes to chrome, I wonder if the same is true for Firefox forks.
Simple forks, sure. Independent forks? No. So I guess it depends on if Zen considers itself independent or not, and I can’t seem to find that information.
No, because the Mozilla’s new policy doesnt apply to forks.
Zen is good. Arc is decent if you must have a chromium browser for some reason, but not OSS
Isn’t Zen just a skin of firefox, so the same issues? And Arc is VC funded…
IMO, if I’m going to jump from Chrome it might as well be for libre/OSS. No reason to just from proprietary to proprietary.
I agree, though there are plenty of situations where you must have a chromium based browser. If it must be a daily driver, Arc is probably better than ungoogled-chromium.
Been moving over to LibreWolf and I’m pretty happy with it so far. I added NoScript and CanvasBlocker extensions, along with my password manager, and I’m getting settled in with it now.
The fingerprint protections in Librewolf already protect against canvas fingerprinting. You actually make ourself stand out even mkre by using it. Even with RFP disable, ETP still protects against canvas fingerprinting.
Nice, I was unaware, thanks!
To a slightly lesser extent, Id also suggest avoiding noscript for the same reason. uBlock Origin can do everything that NoScript can and NoScript contributes as a metric to create your overall fingerprint. If need strong protection against fingerprinting, use Mullvad or Tor Browser. Use Librewolf if you need to customize, or want to change the defaults.
Recent news about Firefox finally got me to go with LibreWolf.
I love Librewolf for PC
and Mull for Android.Edit: Apparently Mull has been abandoned. See below for alternate.
Mull development has been abandoned. You might want to switch to IronFox, the community’s fork to continue its legacy.
Thanks for the info!
Firefox. Equally concerned as well.
Looking into Librewolf and Waterfox now!
Long time Firefox user. Installed Librewolf today and so far so good. I used Firefox sync to get all my settings, bookmarks, open tabs, etc. back. At some point I will probably find an alternative yo Firefox sync but it’ll do for the time being.
The only thing that sucks about it is some sites just flat out don’t work well. For example, in Librewolf I cannot login to my banks website. The site loads, but the login just hangs. Firefox it works immediately.
I believe Librawolf defaults to “strict” fingerprinting blocking. Try setting it to moderate and see if that works with your bank
I do believe I tried that but I’ll try again, thanks.
OK! You’ve had 1 hour to check them out. :D What’s the difference between the two? They’re both Firefox forks, right?
I found a decent answer here https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/18g8tez/what_am_i_gaining_if_i_switch_from_librewolf_to/
That mod sums up a lot that I found. I don’t know the answer because they both have odd downsides.
Yes they’re both forks!
Didn’t Waterfox get bought out by an ad company?
yes and then sold and FOSS again!
Nice!
A related conversation can be found here: https://lemmy.ml/post/26534979
Thanks
FireDragon because it’s the version of Firefox that Garuda ships with and I never saw a reason to change from it.
I use Floorp, it’s balanced well between looks and privacy, you can’t even enable data collection if you wanted to
I gave up on firefox 1 year ago and went to the dark side with Brave. I am really happy with it even tho part of it is closed source.
Trivalent, i.e. “a hardened chromium for desktop Linux inspired by Vanadium”. Vanadium, for the uninitiated, is the browser found on GrapheneOS; the most secure and privacy-friendly/conscious OS for phones.
Thanks for this. I’m using mainly Firefox to support alternatives to webkit/blink based browsers but the new ToU makes me a bit apprehensive about the direction they’re going.
I also had been test driving Falkon from KDE but will look into these as well.
Apparently, Floorp is another Firefox fork. Has anyone tried this?
I use Floorp as my main browser! I like it, it’s very customisable and kind of weirdly Japanese lol
How so?
Assuming you mean the “weirdly Japanese” part - it’s hard to say exactly, but it’s made by a small team in Japan and just a kind of vaguely Japanese vibe to it somehow. Sorry I know that’s not very helpful lol
Haha, I’ve tried it out but haven’t noticed any Japanese feelings to it. Would like to know if you later put words to it :)
