Summary
The White House now claims Elon Musk is not leading DOGE, despite Trump previously stating Musk was in charge of the task force cutting $2 trillion in federal spending.
A court filing says Musk is only a senior adviser without formal decision-making authority. However, Musk’s tweets and Trump’s remarks suggest he has been directing DOGE’s activities.
The revelation raises legal concerns, as lawsuits argue DOGE violates the Appointments Clause by bypassing Senate confirmation.
A federal judge is set to rule on an emergency motion against Musk’s involvement.
Man, scratching his head like that? That’s a mf meme.
“Don’t look at the man behind the curtains!”
Precisely the first reference that popped into my head 🤣
“Musk leads DOGE”
“…that’s illegal.”
“No, no, no musk doesn’t lead DOGE, he advises. Someone else leads it.”
“…so you bypassed the Senate, also illegal…”
“No, no, you don’t get it. Jesus takes the wheel here. It’s God that runs it! You don’t hate God do you!?”
The ultimate game. Get into a position of power, work for free, your work is to guarantee you come out richer. Hire employees for “your” agency that is just a rebranded agency that already exists so no paperwork need be filed. Then, sound like a person of authority while “advising” said agency. Command those gullible 18-21-year-old kids to do unspeakable acts they’re too young and immature to comprehend.
Kids end up being charged with the actionable crime, free “advisor” dude parachutes out the window to collect his solidified tax breaks.
Oh, no, no, no. We’re too old for this. If any action is to happen it needs to be done to Elon. We’re not stupid. We know where these orders descend from.
Perhaps in a more rational timeline. We’re fucked.
I hate to be so pessimistic but I’m feeling overwhelmed lately.
Oh sure, let us actually have choice in action. I’m speaking about how the Old Laws worked in the Long Long Ago. Now that there is no law, the hilarious part is that these old codgers that made this world domination plan forgot that law doesn’t matter when it comes down to it. Program a Tesla to explode while driving, why not? Random snipers on the way to work? Why not? McDonalds burger full of cyanide, why not? I’m not suggesting any evil action here, I just find it supremely funny that these idiots made a football play on America and the one thing they missed, which is the one thing the Republinazis always miss, is that rules are for all. When rules for thee vs me tease out, shit goes south real fast. They think the very laws they are dismantling will somehow let them be safe at the same time.
The supreme hypocrisy of the under-educated is what it boils down to. America’s Golden Shower Age.
Fun fact theres some evidence that the reason that Soissons was able to last so long while most of the other Roman holdouts collapsed is because they were able to avoid overt levels of favoritism under the law. Mind you this is Roman frontier law so it just meant folks got crucified equally.
You lost me at “White House claims.” Gonna need a reputable source, please.
Or you know, impeach and remove the president who lied to the population about what was going on. He’s a public servant as well.
Ok, maybe I will!
Fucking finally man, I knew I was asking the wrong people previously
PapaStevesy is the person America needs right now
You are doublethinking that DOGE is run by Musk. This will be rectified by Minitrue.
This thoughtcrime is doubleplusungood. Thotpol will be notified, the guilty will visit a joycamp, and then the guilty will be unpersoned.
Tell all of your wealthy friends that Musk/Trump has all of their social security, address, work history, salaray history, etc. in their hands, right now.
The current argument is “you give your SSN, address, salary etc to the bank, your employer, the DMV, etc. They all want something from you. The world’s richest man doesn’t need your money, so why are you afraid of giving him all your information?”
It’s basically “if you’ve done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to hide” but with your identity and life savings and social security.
Billionaires don’t become billionaires by being good people, but they would respond to that idea with some horse crap about the American Dream™
Billionaires don’t become billionaires by being good people
And some millionaires. Musk and trump now have all the info on them to blackmail with. He’s a mob boss in real estate and casinos, of course he’s going to blackmail them.
The boomers on Facebook are acknowledging this and giving excuses already.
“He’s rich so he doesn’t need to steal your money.”
“He needs this to audit the IRS. He doesn’t care about your information”
“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”
“All your information is already out there from other government leaks so this doesn’t make any difference”
Wealthy friends lol
Done. Whew, that took NaN time out of my day!
Yeah, I live in Seattle. You can’t throw a rock without hitting one. I sometimes forget what a bubble it is.
We’ll find out on paper, it’s the little kid musk is carrying around to humanize himself that’s listed as the director.
Lol musk is carrying around a little standee of himself wearing a wig and mustache
Bratty little shit. Elon’s kid seems like a snot, too.
All right, who’s making the decisions then?
Elon, they’re lying.
I like the answer that [email protected] gave.
It’s Schrödinger’s control: for the purpose of having executive authority over the project 2025 policy agenda he is in control, except when doing so is illegal in which case he isn’t. The status depends on who’s looking, as it is always exactly the status that evades accountability.
Well well
Wow I can’t believe Trump would just lie like that.
It wasn’t a lie. Just an alternative fact.
For those unaware of the term “alternative facts” here is a heads up:
“Alternative facts” was a phrase used by U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway during a Meet the Press interview on January 22, 2017, in which she defended White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s false statement about the attendance numbers at Donald Trump’s first inauguration as President of the United States. When pressed during the interview with Chuck Todd to explain why Spicer would “utter a provable falsehood”, Conway stated that Spicer was giving “alternative facts”. Todd responded, “Look, alternative facts are not facts. They’re falsehoods.”
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Another day in Trump’s life.
“The day Donald Trump came to your village and lied to you was a Tuesday. For Donald Trump it was also a Tuesday.”
But he told you it was Wednesday and you believed him
you believed him
To be fair, he’s a very unreliable source.
Sometimes I worry about that strategy. He spouts so many lies it’s hard to wade through the bullshit and see what he actually plans to do.
It normalizes his rhetoric in a way that makes people say, “That’s just Trump talking shit.” When we don’t take him seriously we put ourselves at a disadvantage.
Also, look at his accusations about almost anything. Such projection. It seems like every time he chastises someone it’s for something he regularly does (or will do soon).
I agree completely actually, I was just calling Trump a liar.
Another day in the minefield, another lie is sold
Could you edit that with a link or text for the accessibility of it all?
“It will become, potentially, the Manhattan Project of our time”
In that hundreds of thousands will die and millions more will have their lives shortened and worsened as a result.
Good leaders dont sow chaos and confusion
I’ve never had faith in politics, this isn’t helping.
That’s what this ghouls want, it’s their wholr purpose and their whole deal. If you don’t have political institutions to protect you, they can eat you whole. And the best way to destroy political institutions is to errode public support for them.
No, I’ve never had faith in politics… this whole mess just convinces me I’ve been right not to.
This mess is here in big part because you and your fellow children never had faith in politics, and people who do have this faith decided for you.
You had a chance to prevent it, multiple chances if you’re slightly older, but you threw it away, multiple times.I believe we’re in this mess because you did choose to have faith in politics… in fallible, corruptible people.
If he isn’t running DOGE then why the fuck is he in the white house with his booger eater all the damn time? And why did he get access to those documents? And why is anyone listening to anything that falls out of his incel mouth?
Greed and corruption. That’s usually the answer to those types of questions.
I suspect one of two things are happening, or maybe a mix of both:
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Trump doesn’t like the insinutations that he himself isn’t in control.
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Musk’s public image issues are now affecting the bottom lines of his companies.
These things are direct results of both men being complete imbeciles. Nothing more to see here.
It’s Schrödinger’s control: for the purpose of having executive authority over the project 2025 policy agenda he is in control, except when doing so is illegal in which case he isn’t. The status depends on who’s looking, as it is always exactly the status that evades accountability.
They aren’t imbeciles. They are pursuing their objectives in ways that are inconsistent with US Law and tradition and when they run into trouble they obfuscate as much as possible to forestall the consequences.
As an example read the court filing from Joshua Fisher (pdf warning). If you read 3 & 4 carefully you’ll come to the understanding that Musk is a SGE of the WHO with the Job Title “Senior Advisor”.
Then you run into #6 where the text turns itself inside out trying to explain that the US DOGE Service Temporary Organization is under the umbrella of the US DOGE Service which is separate from the White House Office (that employs Musk) but the US DOGE Service is still a component of the Executive…which Musk works for.
Once you are done bending your noggin’ around all of that you are probably too tired and confused to ask the most important question. If Musk isn’t in charge of DOGE then who is?
We all know it’s Musk but they can’t say that nor can answer the question with someone else’s name because then the jig would be up and they’d be hosed. They need it to be Musk for popularity reasons but they also need it to not be anyone at all so that no one can be held responsible.
They know what they’re doing. Don’t assume for a single second that they don’t. You aren’t seeing stupidity, at least not on this, you are seeing methodical, planned, and deliberate attempts to confuse the issue in order to escape consequences and oversight.
- They are purposefully sowing more confusion. All the chaos being a smokescreen to hide the obvious fact that they have both hands in the public coffers and are grabbing what they can.
Yeah, that’s it, they’re flooding the zone with horseshit.
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