How my Firefox became a LibreWolf
New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf
#firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic
For android, there’s also fennec on fdroid
i have ironfox for android.
Gorgeous artwork friend!
@[email protected] Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.
It is not always so easy:
Holy crap thank you for sharing that. Spectacular. Also, the last minute of that had the kind of inspirational vibes that I last got in the 90s reading things on cult of the dead cow.
cDc is still at it!
@[email protected] Thanks! Oh yes it’s not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings.
Thanks for the video, I’m already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee.
He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It’s not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc…I don’t remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.
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For me, it is, honestly, sad. I’ve been using Firefox since… it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.Great art, as always!
@[email protected] Excellent art, as always.
I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.
@darkbeth @davidrevoy hopefully we have to worry about that only a few years until independent engines become usable. #Verso and #Ladybird are candidates if #mozilla codebase rots. GNOME Web / #epiphany is another browser that has an engine not depending on Google (Apple webkit engine though, but at it it will be a real competition and even though they are bad to their own usets, they are not as powerful on the web like Google).
@praveen @darkbeth Thank you Elizabeth.
LibreWolf is just a layer of community reviewing in case Mozilla pushes something bad to their audience. My metaphor about the layer of ash on top of a fox works for this reason.
I also worry for the future of Firefox. I hope their executives will see larger community forming around forks, and it will make them find back their focus to privacy, and security. I’ll be back to Firefox if they do that.
@[email protected] @praveen @[email protected] I mean this is one of the benefits of open source and free/libre software, is that it help users to have alternative in case the original went bad and have a voice to push back harmful changes.
From the blog post…
You won’t be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you’ll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you’re willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.
Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.
They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.
Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.
@[email protected] “[…] not going to sell with the Plebs”
😆 I don’t think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it’s a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I’m happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I mean I don’t hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don’t like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.
😆 I don’t think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs.
I’ve never met a software developer yet who wouldn’t want their program to be popular and widely used.
Also, when it comes to browsers, the name of the game is to get support from the big websites, which is done by having major/popular usage of their browser.
Pleb here
You are correct
Everything is on by default. So is actually quite easy.
It’s very nice because you don’t really have to worry about which add-ons you need.
It’s about the most simple browser I’ve ever used.
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I’m hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.
@[email protected] Haha, I typed in a search engine for “furryfox” before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I’ll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉@[email protected] LOL Yeah, I get too cute sometimes.
It’s good to have a few different browsers for website testing. I have an assortment of different browser profiles too. I use dedicated profiles mostly to keep Gahoogle and Zuckland noses out of my business.
@[email protected] Librewolf sur FreeBSD ici👍
#RunBSD
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Vivaldi right now and it works great.@[email protected] But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software… This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Unfortunately, what fork of Chromium do you recommend then? Brave is a shady crypto project run by a less than nice person, Chrome & Edge I hope I don’t have to explain, and Opera? I really hope I don’t have to go any further.
Also, when Mozilla eventually goes, so does Librewolf, Waterfox, and the rest. There’s no way that the Firefox forks will be able to pick up the pieces in time.
Unfortunately, I am stuck on Vivaldi because it has PWAs and isn’t going to die.
@[email protected] also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.
Is @[email protected] doing the same? 🫤🤷♂️
The ceo gravy train keeps going.
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I’m not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it’s not really noted in the bio this is their official new account.
Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december/ )
Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ )
… both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I mean something as simple like text-to-speech or OCR or machine translation models (like Google Translate/DeepL) can be considered “AI” technically. I’m a student and many courses involving creating our own models from scratch and many of my projects involving use models like tesseract-ocr, turtle-tts, YOLO, LLaMA,… for some tasks and this is painful for me as many outputs don’t even make sense and I had to tweak a lot.
@[email protected] i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!@[email protected] good luck getting sec patches in time
Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn’t just funding but how to maintain they’re absolutely massive code bases.
Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.
Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.
@fruitycoder the group exists and is called blink, managed by google who got tired of working with apple on khtml and forked it to do what they wanted.
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Il y aussi floorp, un “fork” également du renard. Pas d’avis définitif (en phase test) mais je n’ai pas eu le besoin de me plonger dans la doc et de soulever le capot pour l’intant.
@Khrys@[email protected] who is behind Librewolf?
@[email protected] Have a look at their profile here: https://librewolf.net/#what-is-librewolf
@[email protected] I did but there are no names there. :(
I may sometimes use open-source tools that I don’t know who made them. But I don’t feel comfortable using them for a browser. If it’s a honeypot created by intelligence agencies or North Korean hackers, I have no idea. 😬
@[email protected] It’s a community fork. So, you have to meet their community. Scroll down the page to the “Core contributor” section. I see 8 profiles here.
You can check their public activities on Codeberg, and follow links on their profile. You can also discuss with them on their Matrix chat room.
I am going to ladybird it bro
@[email protected] Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.