There are a lot of people in the world. Like a loooooot. Even if the % of non normies is only like 0.01% of the population that would easily explain those boats.
This is the real answer and the reason online bubbles are so sad.
There’s so many different way to live your life and we are atrofied around a couple of equally bad options.
If there was a plague that had a 100% human infection rate and killed 87% of the people infected it would still only set back world populations to around the start of the 1900s
True. The start of the 1900s was no time for messin’ around and making babies. We had to go work in the mines
But the children yearn for the mines
The ideas that normies don’t sail isn’t true. I’m a normie and not rich and I started a sailing school because it’s fun as hell. You don’t need ^to ^own a boat to go sailing, you only need to know how.
Homie how tf are you sailing with no boat?
A friend with a boat is what you want. Same with a pool.
The best boat there is is one you don’t own!
Never sailed in a pool before, brb.
You get really good at tight turns.
First they tell me I can go sailing, now you say I can make friends… What other pie in the sky fantasies are you selling!?
It’s always good to have friends with things you want to use but don’t want to own. Another thing that falls into that category: puppies and kittens.
Hey, cheap nephlings and cousins once-removed! 👋 wanna run around and wrestle and part ways at the end of the night?!
you join a club and are crew. it’s literally how most sailing clubs function. How the hell are you supposed to race a boat if only the owner gets to be on it? The larger the boat the more the crew you need. The fees at my club for crew are $40 a year. That’s like 1/3 the cost of netflix and way more worth it. And many clubs also have a “why buy?” club where you can captain one of the fleet boats a certain number of times a year and bring your own crew.
This simple trick, 🏴☠️
You wouldn’t download a boat
You wouldn’t download a boat
Not a sailboat, but still a downloaded boat. https://www.drdflo.com/pages/Projects/Printcess.html
sail on home to the never say die flavor of simple Rick.
I’m the captain now!
Rent a boat?
They said you don’t need a boat.
You don’t need a boat, but sailing is much easier with a boat.
You don’t need to own a boat. Apologies.
Show up to race night with beers and sailing gloves. And the aforementioned knowledge of sailing.
Show up to race night with beers and sailing gloves
And prepare to get wet! .
you can stick a tiny american flag in your lil belly button and float on by.
Even ten years ago I was like what the heck is an American flag doing on this boat?? The American empire is like one of my least fave so can we at least use the less horrifying state flag?
That’s the power of your imagination!
The same way you live in a place that you don’t own.
OK, but you don’t see me starting an “apartment renting school”
If renting an apartment carried with it a similar significant risk of drowning, there might be a demand.
I would like to introduce you to Florida
That’s what gaming pcs with vr are for
Can confirm, especially the smaller sailboats like lasers and such. You can get going insanely fast on a windy day on the lake :)
Sunfish are the best. Why, you ask? Just scroll down until you see something… ‘jolly’
spoiler
Now, these aren’t official class sails, but who is going to be racing a sunfish anyway, right? ;) I’m also shocked at the price increase. I paid $150 for mine 10 years ago, which is 1/3 of the true class sails needed for racing.
I don’t have space for a mini sailboat right now, but these do look fun as a hobby someday :3
It’s usually a divorced guy
My family had a boat quite a few years back. Not a massive one, probably cost ten grand or something. People don’t need to be absolutely loaded to own a boat.
Moorage, however…
Yeah the people I know who own boats have it in their garage/near their house/storage unit.
I mean it’s only 3 people.
And I just named all 3 locations.
I don’t know that many boat people.
Not a lot of overlap between bike people and boat people.
Yep good point. Expensive to moor and fuel, I’ll give you that.
boats aren’t expensive, especially the older they are. fixing boats properly is expensive, but you also don’t really need to do that. My dad had a racing boat when I was a kid, it cost him $400… I bought a dinghy last year for $200. That’s less than the cost of a game console. And it costs literally nothing to go take it out on the water.
My mom grew up in the '40s and '50s and she told me many times about the surplus PT boat her dad had bought at the end of WWII which the family would take out for boating trips. I was like holy shit a PT (Patrol Torpedo) boat! These things had three Packard engines and could make 45 knots. Later on as an adult I discovered that it was actually just a pontoon boat, one of the things the army would use to make temporary bridges over rivers and that could only go about 3 mph. My mom had just thought “PT” stood for “Pon Toon” so that’s what she called it. It turns out she had always wondered what the hell John F. Kennedy had been doing in the Pacific fighting the Japanese in a pontoon boat.
Later on, I then learned that my mom’s uncle had actually bought a surplus Air/Sea Rescue boat after the war. This boat was basically a PT boat, just with two of the Packard engines instead of three; since it was 15 feet longer than a PT boat it could also do 45 knots. So it turns out my mom did have this childhood experience of rocketing around the ocean at unbelievable speeds. Her uncle ended up selling the boat after the engine room caught fire for the third time (something these engines were notorious for) and we have no idea what happened to it after that. These boats cost about $190K new and he had somehow acquired it for $10K - I expect there was some shady dealing going on there.
Nice read
fixing boats properly is expensive, but you also don’t really need to do that
Yeah, this sounds like really bad advice…
Depends on what you’re using your boat for. A dinghy on a lake doesn’t need the same level of repair that an oceangoing vessel does.
And it costs literally nothing to go take it out on the water.
You sound like a boat salesperson.
They did say a dinghy so that would be accurate. Anything you can carry is going to be very cheap. Anything you can’t will cost a lot more. Think my kayak was a bit over £1000. Costs nothing to use it. But currently can’t store it at my new house and ideally want to change that at some point. It won’t fit through the gate very easily and I think its a bit heavy to carry on my own.
Tell me how it’s incorrect.
Never said it was.
I have a friend who grew up on the coast and her family always sailed for fun.
When she got divorced she bought a sailboat and traveled for a bit in it. She then parked it at a marina and lived in it for so many years close to her kids and grandkids. She paid $100K for boat and her marina fees were $300/month. The boat was paid off with the divorce settlement.
The cheapest 1 bedroom apartment to rent nearby was $3500/month for less square footage than her boat. The cheapest small house was around $1,000,000 or around $6000/ month at the time. The homes around the marina were all priced at several million dollars.
We met someone like that and they were considered homeless by the city, lol. I think they were annoyed at that.
Seattle is full of people that live on boat as an affordable alternative. You can’t be squeamish about insects or get seasick easily because of the storms. I couldn’t do it myself, but I’ve known quite a few that have.
What kinda insects we talking about here?
Water spiders, gnats, etc. You know, bugs you see in a boathouse or in the bathrooms around water.
Why would you assume that I spend time on boathouses or aquatic bathrooms?
You’re in a thread asking about boat related stuff
Yeah, asking questions about boats.
You haven’t asked a single question about boats, only about insects.
A Space Noodle is a relative of a Pool Noodle, is it not?
Totally different.
Eh, water navy, space navy, close enough; I could see how some would get confused
Lol, I assume everyone has been camping near a lake or something. That’s what I meant by bathrooms on water. If you have ever been by a pier, look underneath, that’s a good tell as well.
We don’t really have gnats here in Seattle. It’s great.
So we only get water spiders and etc.?
I’ve never seen those here, either. And they don’t sound like much of a pest since they wouldn’t be flying around biting you.
me writing “the ocean :)” as my permanent address on government documents
This is the right answer. It’s an RV on water but it doesn’t disintegrate (working as intended, that) like an RV or fifth wheel.
What’s a fifth wheel, in this context?
Large trailer camper that is pulled by a ‘5th wheel’ hitch, like the ones found on semi trucks or heavy duty pickups.
Travel trailer.
but it doesn’t disintegrate
Lmao, my little sailboat would like to have a word with you. Maybe it could, too, if I hadn’t plastered it over with enough lacquer to make a latex sub’s dreams come shooting out of their happy hole. The ‘fiberglass-on-top-of-plywood’ construction is an absolute bitch if any moisture makes its way to the plywood.
If you really think about it, no human was ever meant to go on a boat for they are not designed around humans. I think they’re for the illuminati lizards.
While I am skeptical of your claims, I am not an expert on boats or lizards so you’re probably right.
Floating homes for alcoholics? Pretty much anyone who can sign a down payment contract.
Having spent a lot of time in Marinas, I can say this 100% matches my experience.
I suspect technically insurance companies own most of the boats, they just don’t know it yet
The elites don’t want you to know this but the boats at the marina are free you can take them home I have 458 boats.
Yup, if you can get it running, it’s yours.
This is a different kind of boat, but I met someone recently who lives in a houseboat like this and apparently it works out cheaper than buying a house near where they work. It’s moored on the Thames, some way upriver from London.
The funniest part was how relatively normal this person was. They work as a lawyer.
Narrowboats are expensive tho.
They’re the vw campers of the waterway.
Expensive and usually very old and very rotten.
plus you can only really do inland waterways with them. i much prefer sailboats
The situation above just sounds like a floating trailer park to me.
Having said that, you can buy brand new canal boats.
These are crazy popular in and around London, even among fairly ‘normal’ people.
The housing crisis is just so bad that they are comparatively quite affordable (even once you include the long-term/ongoing costs).
Same people who own all the empty properties, residential and commercial; Fucking leaches, that’s who.
Eh, as someone who knows a boat person its like only half that, the other half really, really like boats.
You’re talking boat-people. The topic is Dock Queens; The vast majority of the boats in most marinas, which never leave the dock.
I’m a boat lover and a (thankfully)former landlord. I seent it.
Yeah. With 10 billion people in the world, only 0.0001% of people need to be boat owners for there to be a million boat owners… And I’d be willing to be the actual % is higher than that
Considering older boats can to be cheaper than used cars. My friend bought a 27 ft sail boat for $3000.
Yeah but that’s a deceptive number. You can park a car in your driveway, put gas in it, and spend a few hundred bucks on maintenance every year. Keeping a 27’ boat in the water, and functioning, is far more expensive. Trailers, dock fees, cleaning, wintering, replacing broken things, engine work, it all adds up. The longer it goes without maintenance, the more expensive it becomes. You can’t sail a boat until it sinks into the water the way you might drive a car until it dies. The end of a boat’s life is often the most expensive part.
They say a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into.
Same as a car for most people.
Entropy is especially cruel to boats.
No, the two aren’t even comparable
When my car dies I don’t drown
What kind of boat sinks when it has no power?
… do you think the engine is the only part that needs maintenance?
Do you think that it suddenly loses buoyancy?
Edit: dead implies no power, what boat requires power to float?
Last I checked a dead car doesn’t erupt into flames when the power plant dies, or the transmission blows.
Boats don’t sink because they can’t go forward.
You can row a powerless boat like you can push a dead car.
The amount of people in a populated area is beyond comprehension. You can look at the numbers, but being aware of how many people there actually are is a rare epiphany. I was driving in rush hour traffic a few days ago and had a touch of it - I could see the line of lights both ways stretching out for a few miles and realized that I was but one in this sea of people, and it was but an instant of an hours-long flow of cars.
A marina full of boats isn’t that many compared to lanes of stopped cars for miles.
On family road trips when I was a kid, I remember looking at the flow of cars in the opposing lanes, and thinking about just how many people there were in the world: We’d pass another car every second or so with at least one person in it, for hours and hours. It was a never-ending parade of humanity, and with only a handful of exceptions, people I would never, ever see again. The mind can’t grasp those kinds of numbers.
And I’m old, so there are, like, almost twice as many people now.
Traffic is always one of the things that boggles me, because even for how many people there are on the road at that precise moment, it still doesn’t even come close to the amount of people in the area.
To explain my thought: If everyone is traveling 60 mph, and there are four lanes, and everyone is riding each other’s asses by being one second apart, that’s still only 240 cars per minute passing a particular spot. That means in an hour of relatively rough traffic that is somehow smoothly flowing, only 14,400 cars are going to pass that spot in an hour.
I live in a large metropolitan area, so there are ~8-10 large highways leading towards the metro’s center (that’s 4-5 highways, but counting them twice for each one’s inflow). Most of them vary in lane number as they come inwards, ballooning from 2 in the rural areas to 4-8 in the urban areas (though the areas with more than 4 are really only where highways are merging, so I think 4 is a good number to say as the highway’s ‘average’). So we can multiply that 14,400 number by 10 and get 144,000 cars moving into a city’s center in the span of an hour. That still doesn’t get anywhere near the millions of people living in the metroplex. Hopefully that means most people are living relatively close to their work, and all are living close to their play/chore destinations.
It really makes me ponder how much a certain element of the population has shaped our views, considering the amount of people who do the whole ‘commuting’ thing must be relatively small, yet that is such a giant complaint I hear about all the time.
They aren’t as expensive as you think especially the shitty sailboats
The two best days in a boaters life:
The day they buy their boat; and the day they sell their boat.
This guy boats. Here’s another classic:
BOAT: Bust out another thousand.
My uncle used to own a fairly large shrimp/crabbing boat, and he ran a fishing crew for nearly 20 years. He said “They say the best days in a boat owners life are the day you buy, and the day you sell. There is a Third option, the day you realize you can rent you boat to a crew, and not have to deal with most of the issues, and still make money.” Yeah, he eventually was in too bad of shape to continue, so he started renting his boat out to crews, they covered fuel, and short term maintenance, while he was responsible for the big stuff. Made a nice side income from it, and started a plumbing business.
the day you realize you can rent you boat to a crew, and not have to deal with most of the issues, and still make money.”
Sounds like parasitic behavior to me. Literal rent-seeking.
In a way yes, however this is rather common for small scale commercial fishing. Boats like that are ridiculously expensive, so a lot of people branching out on their own often rent until they can afford a down payment on their own boat. The loans for which are far more predatory, unfortunately.
