Trump does [shocking, rude, unprecedented] thing and OWNS the [punching bag]

Whoever has been in the punching bag category thus far has got a steep hill to climb. I think the opposition needs to come from within the republican party, and will need to pursue headlines with a similar format in response to Trump actions that genuinely piss everyone off.

EDIT: if anyone wants inspiration/brain rot for a grass roots campaign, the gateway pundit is good template. I think that’s more of a strategy to use on old people on Facebook.

Trying to shift further right won’t work

I think we’re at a point where most people in the US are right leaning (maybe even arbitrarily so). The democrats have pissed off and alienated enough people where that’s the situation. The important thing now is to reinforce the idea that right wing beliefs and American freedom, civil liberties, democracy, etc are not mutually exclusive. That’s the issue with Trump’s strategy right now, as people are willing to follow him into an authoritarian future because they’re focused on the “own the libs” aspect of it.

That advantage evaporated as Trump seized control of the front pages again.

And don’t forget the Dems panicking at the sudden signs of success and muzzling their best talking points, tying up Tim Walz and trying to appeal to moderates by parading Liz Cheney around instead of sticking to a really strong narrative, like how republicans are weird and what’s in Project 2025.

Dems do NOT understand populism, or if they do they have a twisted perception of what drives common people and how to engage with people burned out with voting. Seeing the tone of the “rallies” being led by Schumer and Pelosi after the election to try to restore some amount of moral and drive told me clearly that the dem party is utterly cooked. They are out-of-touch, elitist, naive and stuck in some era of civility that never existed.

Then you get to tell the story you’re good at.

They forgot how. We’re going to have to make a new party, I’m afraid.

I agree with everything you said.

The top of the Democratic party basically wants to become the party of big money and try and steal this mantle from the Republicans.

Obviously, this isn’t going to work because the donors will just go for the party that will give them more, and they will always be the Republicans party.

This is basically just the campaign advisors trying to get as much money into the campaigns as possible, because they get a cut of every ad buy. They’re not interested in making things better for the people, just looking at their bottom line.

It’s also reported here. This fits with the reports of complaining that Democratic Congresspeople have been doing about the progressive wing of the party wanting them to fight back against DOGE. They and party leadership may well be aiming to not just talk like it, but fully become the new Republican party, in hopes of having a stampede of “moderate” Republicans who aren’t happy with Trump come their way.

Looks like it to me.

Moderates have done nothing but sell their America out for a seat at an empty table. How could anything good come from people who are currently in charge of the shit show called the DNC?

I’ve lived and worked around enough republicans to know that if given the choice between voting for a Republican and a slightly watered down yesteryear Republican, the Republican voter will always just choose the Republican. Especially because their media sphere is screaming at them about how the democrat is a secret Muslim Marxist who wants to give everyone’s babies to the Clinton’s antarctic adrenochrome base. You know who did at least better with Republicans? Bernie. And I think that scares the fuck out of the big doner class.

Let me restate that: There is, no shit, a better chance of a full-throttle communist revolution than of capturing Republican voters by chasing them.

This could tactically work for them

Lol, it absolutely will not. Republicans are republicans, first and foremost. They are voting republican because republicans are their sports team. It does not matter what the policies espoused by democrats are, they are democrats, and thus verboten for republicans.

Do you not remember the hilarious interviews where democratic (maybe obama specifically, depends on the video) policies were pitched to republicans, and they agreed with them up until the reveal that the policy was from the ‘wrong side’ of the political aisle?

It’s asinine. Hand over the DNC to the people who made the RNC what it is today. OK, but what do you actually win? 100 more people get to clutch power until death wrenches it from their hands?

Lol, America has never stood for inclusion. Every new demographic has faced extreme bigotry. People had to fight tooth and nail to be included. They literally had to amend our founding document several times because of it.

We should definitely try to be better, but let’s not pretend that the US wasn’t built on the bodies of people who wanted to be included.

If the small donors are dominating… Why would you abandon them?

Fuck, if that were true we’d have just gotten done with 8 years of President Sanders 😥

As long as they’re part of the aristocracy they don’t care.

Nooo, you’re not supposed to blame Democratic leadership, you’re supposed to blame the voters!

loudoun county is wealthier, better educated, more diverse, and more ‘blue’ these days than most ‘suburban’ counties. local democrats could shift left of ocasio-cortez and sanders (et al) and still win.

Just a bit further now… Soon they’ll be doing the “Roman” salutes too.

US Americans will get the joy of sharing land borders with enemies because you know certain foreign powers would be all over that.

Yeah, we should also all just not show up for work and stop recognizing the dollar as a legitimate currency. I just can’t wish it into being.

It’s called balkanization. And it may well happen.

That’s what DOGE is in the process of doing.

Personally, I think the power vacuum created by the US Federal Government will be immediately filled by megacorporations and it’s going to be a long, hard, bloody fight to disentangle our entire continent from these gargantuan corporate parasites.

No organization. No trust. I used the words “we” in one post then got accused of being a narcissist. If a stoner can’t get stoned and speak for other stoners, how would we ever be anything other than stoners?

Because the FBI was created with the explicit purpose of assassinating left wing politicians and activists in the US, and the CIA was founded for the same reason but abroad.

They did. They were kept off the ballot in swing states because Dems sued to do that. They were allowed in solidly red states though. At least mine.

First past the post, basically. Especially in modern times where geography really shouldn’t have as much weight as it does.

In most European countries a Green party gets somewhere between 5 and 20% of the vote, and at that stage they get representation in Parliament and possibly even get to participate in government. In the US they need to get 50% of the vote in a given area to get any type of office, no matter how minor (Mayor, school board, whatever).

So they can’t really build a grassroots to grow politicians for a national stage, and voters know that voting for them is basically the same as staying home.

Also, they need to get rid of Jill Stein, that picture of her sitting at the table with Putin and Mike Flynn isn’t going to go away and shows terrible judgement. You can be critical of US imperialism without hanging out with a different kind of imperialist.

They selected Walz because he was polling the best (because he talks like a normal person), and then they basically hid him because they didn’t like what he said. Not sure if he did any interviews after the Jon Stewart one where he was slightly too honest about Liz Cheney.

Guys I think it’s finally time. To quadruple down.