Summary

A Canadian parliamentary petition to revoke Elon Musk’s citizenship has gathered over 150,000 signatures.

Launched by author Qualia Reed and sponsored by MP Charlie Angus, the petition accuses Musk of undermining Canada’s sovereignty due to his ties to Trump, who has repeatedly suggested annexing Canada.

Musk is a Canadian citizen through his mother. The petition will be presented to the House of Commons, which resumes on March 24.

  • K☰NOPSIK
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    246 months ago

    How often do petitions actually affect change? I feel like I see petitions being mentioned a lot, but rarely do I see change as a reult. It feels like they are just another form of “thoughts and prayers”. You feel like you’re contributing something, but a few days go by and the collective amnesia sets in.

  • @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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    606 months ago

    I forgot he had Canadian citizenship, I wonder if any Republicans have enough of a spine to pressure him into relinquishing it.

  • @Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    36 months ago

    Why? Lol just because you hate Trump? He’s not even living in Canada lol and that sets a dangerous precedent anyway. Pretty stupid and childish just because Trump called Canada the 51st state lmao

    Here’s a deal. We will take Musk if the Toronto Maple Leafs win the cup this year.

    • @Renohren@lemmy.today
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      Canada can do whatever it wants with it’s citizens, just like the US can deport their own citizens to Guantanamo or Salvador so they can not be protected by their constitutional rights.

      It’s called sovereignty.

  • @sumguyonline@lemmy.world
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    76 months ago

    I personally know the dudes an immigrant, likely has applied for citizenship in places other then south Africa. He will always be an immigrant. He will never get the stink of not belonging here off him. I do not feel this way about other immigrants.

    • FaceDeer
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      106 months ago

      Elon Musk’s mother is Canadian.

      There is no legal precedent for revoking citizenship like this. Why is this any better than Trump’s push to revoke citizenship for immigrants that he doesn’t like? There are better ways to handle this.

      • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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        Because he is standing alongside Trump trying to make Canada part of the US.

        IANAL, but that sounds like Canadian Treason. Revoking citizenship is the nicer way to handle it. That’s a hangin’ down here.

        • FaceDeer
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          56 months ago

          And Trump would likely claim that the immigrants whose birthright citizenship he wants to revoke are “invading” the US.

          I’m not saying that Elon Musk isn’t awful. I’m saying that revoking his citizenship isn’t the right way to deal with that. It’s not even legal to do so it’s a moot question to begin with.

          We can’t simply disavow Canadian citizens like that. If a Canadian citizen does something awful then we should do something about it. Put out a warrant for whatever it is he’s up to. If you think he’s a traitor, check the laws on treason and see if he qualifies for an actual charge.

          That’s a hangin’ down here.

          Canada does not have the death penalty.

          • @YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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            36 months ago

            Lol. “Use the laws against him!” Good idea 🙄 Its not like money buys politicians and judges and freedom in basically any place on earth when you have that much of it /s

            Btw I don’t know anyone who refers to Canada as “down here”. Pretty sure they mean the US.

            • FaceDeer
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              26 months ago

              Lol. “Use the laws against him!” Good idea 🙄

              What, you’re suggesting an “extrajudicial” revoking of his citizenship, then? How would that work? Why is that remotely a good idea? A government that ignores laws and just does whatever comes to mind is exactly the problem here.

              Btw I don’t know anyone who refers to Canada as “down here”. Pretty sure they mean the US.

              Yes, obviously. I’m pointing out a significant difference between the two countries.

    • palordrolap
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      56 months ago

      I figure that at some point you become so rich that you transcend nationality. That sounds complimentary, but I don’t mean it that way.

      I mean it makes you an illegal alien wherever you might set foot. Pretoria, Ontario, Silicon Valley, Washington DC, Olympus Mons; GTFO. None of that belongs to you. Not any more. Persona non grata. You’ve taken so much that you owe literally everyone and should not be welcome anywhere.

  • Krik
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    436 months ago

    While I don’t think it’s possible to revoke his citizenship it might be possible to try him for treason against ‘his’ country.

    • HellsBelle
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      There is precedent to revoke his citizenship.

      In the 1980s, there was another extremist who used his international media platform to spew hate and disinformation. His name was Ernst Zundel. He continually laughed at Canada’s laws against hate speech. He was ultimately jailed and then deported from our country.

      (FYI Charlie Angus is a Member of Parliament in Canada.)

      https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/musk-doesnt-deserve-canadian-citizenship

      Edit to fix word

      • @Grappling7155@lemmy.ca
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        86 months ago

        (FYI Charlie Angus is a Minister of Parliament in Canada.)

        Member of Parliament. He’s a part of the NDP opposition party. Ministers are heads of ministries, which are like departments, and ministers have traditionally been from the governing party.

    • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      Why do a lot of you do this nonsense. You’re swinging for the fences and play right into the hands of the right when you put all your effort into comments like “he can be tried for treason” just swing lower and stop the dramatics. He can be tried for being a piece of shit. He can be tried for all the hormone therapy he’s done. He can be tried for being a billionaire and still banging only 4s

  • Queen HawlSera
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    246 months ago

    If I were the Queen of America, I would have Elon tried for treason, I’d also have ICE remove everyone from their detention centers but not close it completely, they’d now have the job of Violating the fuck out of Elon’s 8th Amendment rights.

  • Steven McTowelie
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    In like the 1940s Elon Musk’s grandfather was a chiropractor in Regina, Saskatchewan and was arrested by the RCMP for being a central figure in an organization that was trying to overthrow the government and install a technocracy. I’m not kidding.

    After that is when he fucked off to South Africa to partake in the Apartheid.

    • Gloomy
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      1186 months ago

      I realy want to belive this to be true, but I have to ask for a source on this one.

        • @Lumidaub@feddit.org
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          186 months ago

          Supervisor: Hey, um, I think you forgot to include sources in your thesis?

          Grad student: You can also look up a source. It’s real easy these days, with the little supercomputers in all our pockets.

            • Midnight Wolf
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              46 months ago

              Condescending, then gets upset for being called out for it; then doubles down, instead of recognizing the problem is, in fact, being condescending. Which, to recap, you began and then continued.

              Bravo, bravo slow clap. I almost feel like I should expect a shrill cry to speak to the manager or something.

            • @YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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              126 months ago

              Lol. If you consider what they said an insult, what you said is certainly one by your own standards. Maybe don’t be shitty to people for no reason if you’re concerned about such things.

            • @CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
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              46 months ago

              Beep boop beep boop

              I mean…

              What YOU said sounds like something a robot would say… 🤔

          • @ehpolitical@lemmy.ca
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            156 months ago

            That’s how I feel every time someone makes that stupid remark… if I didn’t want to interact with people, I wouldn’t be online, duh. I especially love being able to ask questions in real-time and verify the answers when it’s important to me.

            • @Lumidaub@feddit.org
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              136 months ago

              For me, it’s not even about the interaction. “Do your own research” is conspiracy ideologists language for “trust me brah” and we should be better than that. Whatever they claim may simply not be true and “look it up yourself” is just a means to waste everybody’s time because there isn’t anything to look up. Not to mention, whoever made the claim should already have at least an idea where they got the claim so why send everybody on a wild goose chase when they can simply link to it?

              • @ehpolitical@lemmy.ca
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                36 months ago

                I almost always include links, but not always when it’s something I’ve already linked to dozens of times. In that case, I figure if people are interested enough, they’ll want to do their own research… and if they’re not, then I’m not gonna continue wasting my time just because someone wants to argue again.

          • @RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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            26 months ago

            Here’s a summary of our findings: We located reporting from as far back as 2009 and 2014 that said when Elon Musk (“Elon” hereafter) was a child in South Africa in the 1980s, his father (“Errol” hereafter) at some point owned “a stake in an emerald mine” near Lake Tanganyika in Zambia, not South Africa. Beyond that, we were unable to find any evidence that showed money generated from his father’s involvement in the mine helped Elon build his wealth in North America.

            I once owned a share of Microsoft, therefore I owe any success to that.

        • MrPistachios
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          66 months ago

          Is there a way to get a source for behind the bastards without ads? Like some podcasts let you pay a subscription and you get access to an ad free version

            • MrPistachios
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              26 months ago

              Oh nice so that gets you like a link to be able to use your own podcast downloader?

              • Steven McTowelie
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                Yeah it’s called an RSS feed. Every podcast has an RSS link, and that’s how your podcast app connects and gets all the episode information and the stream. Some apps may not have the podcast you’re looking for in the search function (or maybe there’s more than one, like an ad free stream), and you can manually add whatever podcast if you have the link.

                Interestingly, YouTube channels and subreddits are also RSS feeds. There are apps that allow you to compile the links together, so all of your podcasts, YouTube subscriptions, subreddits, and many more things that you follow on the internet, could all be combined into one app/page, free of ads and other distractions and annoyances on the originating sites. I use the program FreshRSS for this exact purpose, and it’s wonderful having everything I want to see combined on my home page.