• Fargeol
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    13 months ago

    I’m pretty sure we could make this into a satirical puzzle game.
    You would defuse a connected bomb by remotely shutting it down through an awful mobile app.

  • aramis87
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    33 months ago

    Alternative to steps 6 through 17: refuse to use any webstore that doesn’t allow for guest check-checkout.

  • @[email protected]
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    453 months ago

    They forgot the last step: delete the promo emails from the company you never signed up for

    • @[email protected]
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      83 months ago

      The worst thing is that you gave them the permission to send emails to you, but you did not even notice it.

      If you give some information to any for profit company you can be sure they will use that information and if you decline the permits they are going to keep asking until you eventually miss click.

      For example if you fill shopping basked, but abandon it after filling your information they can contact you once as “a friendly reminder” about the cart and they can keep that information legally for few weeks until they must anomize the data. And if you at some point clicked something where you accept the marketing permits they can keep that information “as long as the company thinks it is reasonable to keep and/or revelant information for their operation.”

      Source: Im part of the problem. Atleast for now.

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        The worst thing is that you gave them the permission to send emails to you, but you did not even notice it.

        Note: there are a lot of services now that will sneakily get your signature/acceptance without you realizing it. The latest one I noticed was at the pharmacy, where you normally sign for your prescription, it now has one or more options that pop up before you sign for your actual medicine, and if you read what you’re signing you see it’s permission to text you special offers and promotions.

        ALWAYS READ WHAT YOU ACCEPT, IF YOU DON’T KNOW, DON’T SIGN IT. If you’re worried or pressured, just ask someone. We can’t keep discarding our rights and privacy because we’re worried about people in line behind us or worried how much time you’re going to lose at least SKIMMING the user licence agreement. You can save yourself a lot of junk and hassle if you at least make sure the accept buttons and signature fields are actually for what you want.

      • @[email protected]
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        33 months ago

        I am glad I am using proton. I never give my real email to any website and create an alias for every website. That way, when I ever receive a spam email, I know exactly which company sold my data and I can turn that alias off permanently.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          do you use “email+alias@proton” style aliases (afaik how gmail does it) or do you get an entirely new email address?

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            I use proton pass and it generates an alias with a prefix you give it, which helps to recognize what email it is, so this format: <prefix>.<random-generated-part>@passmail.net

            So an example could be [email protected]

  • @[email protected]
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    253 months ago

    Missing step of CAPTCHA asking you to click on motorcycle images, only for you to fail at least twice

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      Lifehack: Use the audio prompt CAPTCHAS and just put in ANY similar number of random words you hear. It fuzzes AI training data at same time. Works every time.

    • @[email protected]
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      123 months ago

      Me just trying to fucking pay a utility bill:

      “Honey, could you come in here and tell me if this looks like the edge of crosswalk just visible behind that car? I have one chance left and can’t mess this up!”

    • @[email protected]
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      43 months ago

      Or writing the exact characters in the obfuscated image only to be told it’s not what you seen.

    • @[email protected]
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      Oh my. This was my yesterday trying to sign up on Meetup.

      First it was click crosswalks. Then stairs. Then motorcycles. Then the sign up failed. 5 minutes of my life so I can RSVP some stupid ass event.

      What a shit experience.

  • @[email protected]
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    103 months ago

    Using webmail can be avoided, but agreed on the rest.

    PS: It gets worse when you use a script blocker and have to figure out which scripts are needed per website.

    • DrewOP
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      63 months ago

      That jumped out to me as well. Even using something like Thunderbird with GMail (even though you really should try moving somewhere that respects your privacy) has such a better feel to it.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yes, exactly. I’m still in that intermediate position myself. I’m using Thunderbird and K9-Mail as clients for my Hotmail Account (Microsoft).

        It’s seems like so much work to move away from the email account I signed up for some 20 years ago, so I’ve still shied away from doing it so far. At least I started using a password manager a few years ago, so by now I have a list of services, that would require updating.

        • DrewOP
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          43 months ago

          Congrats on taking the first step!

  • @[email protected]
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    13 months ago

    We can thank GDPR for the cookie warnings.

    Promos are legit enshittification.

    Passkeys beat 2FA apps & enable passwordless.

    Shipping & card info can be 1-time fill. A decent password manager with form filler takes the pain out of much of this. Federated identities also reduce some pain.

  • @[email protected]
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    363 months ago

    We have driver’s licence as an app in norway. I was on my way into a pub where I was asked by a bouncer to show ID. I forgot my physical wallet with physical ID, so the dance started:

    • Unlock phone.
    • Find app.
    • App requires national login. Enter personal number (Norwegian SSN)
    • National login has 2FA via another app. Open that to confirm.
    • National login requires password. My password is in a password manager, so I open that.
    • Password manager requires password.
    • and 2FA.
    • Acquire password and scramble back to the app that required password for national log on.
    • Complete login so I can show that I am 33 years old, which is over the required age of 18.

    In reality, the bouncer just gave up on me at around step 5 and let me in.

    • @[email protected]
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      33 months ago

      That sounds like a 60 second thing at most. None of it is worse than having to drive back home for your wallet.

      • @[email protected]
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        53 months ago

        In Norway, it has been a long tradition to do as many drinks as possible at home before heading to the bars, due to steep prices in bars. So I was pretty “beautiful” at that point, which does not help with running passwords and 2FAs

    • Echo Dot
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      43 months ago

      Either he was being a dick (fairly likely all bounces are) or you have a really good moisturizing regimen because there’s no way that a 33-year-old would look like they’re under 18.

    • @[email protected]
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      103 months ago

      There are just things that should be physical things.

      IDs and fucking buttons in cars please. Holy fuck please can we not do the IPAD thing in cars. Please God.

      • @[email protected]
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        43 months ago

        And on cooking stuff!

        Long click to select stove element

        Phew now it’s on full power…

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          I have yet to encounter an electric stove that doesn’t loop to full power when you press “-” when it’s at its lowest setting

          • hownowbrowncow
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            13 months ago

            Mine doesn’t. But it will go straight to full power with ‘power on’ then ‘+’ (rather than ‘power on’ then ‘-’). A single ‘power on’ press doesn’t actually turn the burner on, which I always thought was weird. But the alternative of having to go through power levels sounds worse, so I guess I get it

    • Ephera
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      53 months ago

      Yesterday, I was on the train and the lady checking the tickets at first walked past me without checking mine. After more people had gotten on, she made her route back down the train, when she asked me, if she had checked mine – hmm, she must’ve checked mine – so, she was already about to walk on and out of reflex, I said that she had actually skipped me before.

      Felt a bit silly to then get out my ticket and show it to her, since I clearly wouldn’t have told her to ckeck me, if I didn’t have a valid ticket. Kind of same energy as with your bouncer, like you wouldn’t have all this stuff on your phone and spend the time trying to get into it, if it won’t lead to anything.

  • @[email protected]
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    393 months ago

    Missed the step towards the end were you have to switch browser and restart the whole process because “Firefox not supported” or you’ve an extension that’s a bit overzealous on blocking the checkout popup window.

    • @[email protected]
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      203 months ago

      Blocked an ad that fucked up the css so dramatically that the checkout button is now permanently stuck at -10% of viewport.

      • @[email protected]
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        I tried to order chicken teriyaki so it would be ready for my wife to pick up en route home. Website requires a login. Make it. It doesn’t log in after creating the login, so log in again. Password wrong. Reset password. Finally get in. Get to last step and there’s no button to send the order. Fortunately, I’d wasted so much time that my wife was already there standing in line.

        I assume it’s just formatted for mobile, but when I’m sitting at my computer, I’m going to use it, it’s always faster. Except when it doesn’t work.

  • @[email protected]
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    83 months ago

    Not sure I’d prefer the easy internet of the past though. I hope no one forgets websites used to store your password in plain text and just sent it to you if you forgot. Oh and password length? Any 4 characters will do! Buying online? Yeah just need those super secure 3 digits on the card please. There’s a lot of unneeded fluff today like the promos and cookie disclaimers could have been handled at protocol level. But what is there for security is generally good change, even if it makes the process more complex.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      Ah yes, the “Private, simple or secure” web dilemma that will push everyone to embracing AI agents that will amplify the issues with the first three options.

  • RejZoR
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    213 months ago

    How people can deal with internet without adblockers like uBlock is just baffling. Not only ads, but also all the cookie banners and phone app popups and other crap. uBlock will filter all this shit out so you just use the website without junk and annoyances.

    I’ve used the original Windscribe back when it was still a regular x86 app that acted like a local proxy and would filter out ads and banners. That was early 2000s iirc. Even back then I couldn’t stand all this crap. Today I can’t imagine browsing without uBlock or at minimum with DNS filtering which can’t apply cosmetic filters or more advanced rules.

    • @[email protected]
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      153 months ago

      AdNauseam. It clicks all the adverts. Yes, this is actively malicious behaviour. No, I don’t care.

      • @[email protected]
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        93 months ago

        Malicious against advertisers, beneficial to the site you’re visiting.
        That’s a win-win in the desolate place we call the internet today.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      Windscribe was important because every bit of bandwidth saved mattered. Less so with 2.5gb fiber connections to home.

      • RejZoR
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        I actually didn’t care so much about bandwidth back then even though 56K modem was ass. It was the ad banners that drew me nuts. Especially since that was the era of flashing and blinking GIF and Adobe Flash banners. I got 1Mbit ADSL a bit later and that’s when it was even less important since bandwidth was unlimited. Banners were still there tho and were just as annoying.

    • @[email protected]
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      Just want to post this here for anyone not aware… uBlock “medium” mode. Kind of an unadvertised feature that has to be enabled in a strangely obscure way (I think they want to make sure you’re not a complete idiot).

      Still, pretty easy to set up, and much more protection than the default (but also not nearly as frustrating as “hard” mode or whatever they call it). Basically, most sites you visit are going to be broken the first time you go, but you enable elements you need for the site to load, then save those settings for that domain. Takes about 30 seconds or so once you know what you’re doing and you only need to do it once per domain. Basically, I keep 1st and 3rd-party scripts off completely most of the time. It’s relatively rare that I absolutely need to enable 1st party scripts on a page for it to load.

      It’s kind of like uBlock + noscript learning mode. The element zapper is clutch as well, but that’s not unique to medium mode or anything.

    • @[email protected]
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      53 months ago

      DNS level ad blocks have been a huge game changer for me. When I play games at home, no ads. Then when I go out and play those games, I forget that they have ads.

      • RejZoR
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        43 months ago

        For me setting up Android phone without it. Installed some app and got bombarded by all the ads and shit. Something I just don’t even know on mine.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          using open source android apps (as much as possible) and having a custom rom is a magical experience