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    Brave Sir Elon ran away. Bravely ran away away. When danger reared it’s ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave Sir Elon turned about And gallantly he chickened out. Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir Elon!

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    I’m sure he’ll be on Joe rogan again getting verbally fellated and reassured that he dodged a bullet not going on the violent left wing propaganda deep state media show

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      From what I’ve seen, if you watch any of Rogan you’d find that he’s not actually shouting MAGA to the heavens. He’s literally the “I’m just asking questions” guy, a useful idiot who normalizes right-wing thought for them, not the place they go for reassurance. Bannon and the like are the ones saying crap like deep state conspiracy.

      Mischaracterizations are what fuel the right’s rhetoric when they try to say we don’t know what we’re actually talking about.

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        Oh no he pretends to be balanced to some degree but he’s completely bought into the maga propaganda. He may be a useful idiot, but he’s a useful idiot who is all in 100%. They’re not mischaracterizing him at all.

        Bannon is smart enough to know it’s all a means to an end but nobody’s going to him for reassurance. Especially not Musk. Bannon loves shit talking Musk.

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    Figured Elon would wait until the day off to back out, not immediately after Jon announced it was on

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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    What a shock. Jon wouldn’t hold back punches, and Musk knows that. Musk only goes on Podcasts where the host’s opinions change depending on the guest.

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      There’s also a huge huge risk of speaking with a master debater (yw). Smart people are everywhere. People who are genuinely good at debating are terrifying to argue with. It’s a rabid animal except they have facts and logic and easy to understand, well structured arguments. It’s infuriating.

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      For me the weirdest moment was when Joe Rogan - before the election - said that Musk “saved us”. Not “is going to save us”, already saved us.

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        Drumpf also alluded to “he’s got the best coders, it’s just one line of code,” fElon will hand us the win! Before the election.

        fElon also said before the election, “If he [Drumpf] doesn’t win, I’m probably going to prison,” [sic] alongside President Elect Drumpf

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          During the 2000 election, the Diebold electronic voting machines used in many states stored results in an Access database. Kids today wouldn’t understand how disastrously insecure that was (Access DBs had an audit table that was manually editable). I have zero doubt that newer machines have similar “flaws” baked in (even if they didn’t use Starlink as was reported briefly), making the results absurdly easy to rig.

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    Musk probably watched Stewart’s conservative show interview appearances over on YouTube, dating back to his first stint on the daily show. They couldn’t trip Stewart. He rolled over all of them. The interviews stopped, again, surprising no one.

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      Jon Stewart single-handedly got CNN’s “Crossfire” ( featuring a not-yet-fully-crazy Tucker Carlson) cancelled just by going on the show and doing his thing.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart's_2004_appearance_on_Crossfire

      In the final exchange before a commercial break, Carlson remarked that he thought Stewart was “more fun on your show, just my opinion.” Stewart responded, “You know what’s interesting, though? You’re as big a dick on your show as you are on any show.”

      (Shit, that was over 20 years ago. I’m old …)

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          Jon Stewart: “How old are you?”

          Tucker Carlson: “35.”

          Jon Stewart: “And you wear a bow tie.”

          “Look, I’m not suggesting you aren’t a smart guy, because those things are not easy to tie. But the thing is, you’re doing theatre, when you should be doing debate. It’s not honest… what you do is partisan hackery.”

          Jon Stewart on Crossfire

          And so savage was the mockery that he never wore a bowtie again.

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              There is a direct line between GWB and Trump. The lies of the Bush administration and it’s denigration of the “reality-based community” laid the groundwork for Donald Trump’s Big Lies. if Al Gore won in 2000, I doubt we would have Trump today. Ron Suskind wrote all about it in the NYT back then. This article about the article is not behind their paywall:

              https://theweek.com/articles/854892/what-karl-rove-right-about-realitybased-community

              The aide said that guys like me [Suskind] were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

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              To be fair, he was responsible for the deaths of 4 million people, yet is better remembered for fucking up a proverb. That’s pretty absurd.

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                From all the information I’ve been able to gather, all signs seem to point toward “being born”

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        Right? Makes you feel old, doesn’t it?

        Elon can’t handle it so he ducked out. In addition, Tesla probably texted him and said don’t.

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          His cybertruck sent him a message saying “this is an uphill battle. I cannot help, you’re on your own”

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          I suspect everyone knows better than to tell him not to do it. That’s likely as anything to make him decide he will do it.

          But they also know if they don’t press the issue, Musk will always flake on any thing like this.

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        I don’t know how my mother convinced me to watch Crossfire. I was a kid. She thought it was intellectually awesome.

        EDIT: To be clear, I don’t remember anything about Crossfire.

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        (Shit, that was over 20 years ago. I’m old …)

        i watched that crossfire interview when it first aired and i think it’s telling that stewart & the daily show et al. are still the primary vanguard of american liberalism when the rest of the world has changed; especially so when they solely focus on stoking the culture war fires and ignoring the class war that creates them.

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    He has shut down other interviews too. Its clear all he wants is people who kiss his ass and tell him his smart he is.

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    I knew he was going to pussy out. Conservatives who are routinely in the public eye can’t survive outside of their safe spaces. That’s why Republican politicians are cancelling their town halls. They can’t handle anything other than a gentle interview on FOX or OAN with the questions sent to them ahead of time so they can get their answers from the heritage foundation.