The IRS rules governing nonprofits still required the Mozilla Foundation to beg big to go big: the parent had to go find big grants from Soros, Ford, Knight, MacArthur, and give smaller grants to many. This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs and nonprofits (too many glowies there for me, too). Which meant I had a hostile MoFo over my head the minute I got CEO appointment from the MoCo board…

Of course I can’t comment on anything about my exit, for reasons that only the most loopy HN h8ers still can’t figure out.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43251203

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    As a reminder, Eich was turfed from Mozilla for joining an anti-LGBT hate campaign (and thus alienating a whole lot of developers, sponsors, and users); and his So Brave browser pushed NFTs and stole money via referral fraud.

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      If I’m reading their financial records correctly, the year he left Mozilla was the year he was paid the most, even though he didn’t stick around for most of it. So this retelling of history is, at best, incomplete…

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      I mean, he’s technically better-behaving than Mozilla itself then.

      But I think these endless splits over disagreements and inability to cooperate in the split state are systemic.

      So maybe the whole typical-left “let’s unite and make a thing and boot everyone who shows a sign of rot” is systemically harmful. See, people who show signs of rot - they are the better kind. The really bad people don’t show any signs of rot until it’s too late. Actually they may not show anything, be like Mozilla tops.

      And also one kind of rot is not rot for some people, and the other is not rot for other group of people, and so on. It would be good to build a way of cooperation where people are impeded from cooperation only with whom they themselves disagree, and not the majority.

      Same as my other idea that there should be a way of moderation, where a person’s ability to choose is strengthened with all the amazing technology we have, and not with benevolent MITM.

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          A word’s meaning is how it’s used. Also yes, there are.

          I think the important separation is not between left and right, it’s between truth and lie, or between principle and momentary gain.

    • @[email protected]
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      I remember back when that referrer thing happened and people on reddit were tripping over themselves to justify it and explain why it’s actually ok… What a joke.

  • brezel
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    For a non-native speaker of english this reads like a core dump. I have zero idea what this dude is even talking about.

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      Extremely online echo chamber talk doesnt make sense in any language if youre ourside that echo chamber.

      Him being a 4chan shitbird means most the people here on lemmy likely weren’t going to be clue’d in immediately.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      For a native English speaker who understands everything he wrote: you’re 100% correct. It is a core dump.

    • @[email protected]
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      https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/glowie-glowposting

      Glowie, also known as a Glown****, is a slang term popular on 4chan’s /pol/ board used in reference to CIA or other governmental agents posing as ordinary 4chan users in order to bait others into sharing incriminating information.

      In 2017, schizophrenic computer programmer Terry Davis, known for his TempleOS software that he claimed was dictated to him by God and meant to be God’s third temple, made a video showing off various aspects of TempleOS. In the video, Terry says, “The CIA n*****s glow in the dark, you can see them if you’re driving. You just run them over, that’s what you do.”

      The term “glow in the dark” refers to the obvious nature of their camouflage, leaving them exposed when they’re trying to hide in the shadows.

      In fairness to Brave CEO I did not know it had racist origins and only thought it referred to the last paragraph.

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        That’s the problem with racist bullshit. They scrape the racism off and peddle it everywhere until it’s widely accepted and not tied to it’s roots anymore.

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        It’s fucking weird that not 3 or 4 days ago… I was literally reading about Davis. And the glowing CIA ranting that he was doing. Total coincidence

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            I dont go on 4chan though, the only exposure I have to it is occasionally reading greentext vids/stories on other sites.

            I was just on a random rabbit hole that Briefly involved templeOS and somehow ended up on the “hit CIA with your car they arent humans” video

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      It comes from Terry A. Davis’s description of CIA, FBI and the like: “They glow in the dark”

        • Fluffery
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          The CIA relation is racist? Or the fact the chanoids added the n word at the end?

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            Pretty sure there’s at least one quote of Davis himself using the n-word to refer to federal agents before describing how bright they glow…

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              I blame 4chan’s constant harassment of the man for his speech and early death. They invaded his live streams and gaslit him into believing, among other things, that he was in a relationship with someone else. Collectively, I think they’re responsible for his suicide.

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                Didn’t a lot of the people from back in the old 4chan days move over to KiwiFarms? This feels like it would be a kiwifarms thing these days rather than 4chan

                • @[email protected]
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                  Basically, KiwiFarms were formed by people who were too much for 8chan, which was formed by people too much for 4chan, which was formed by people too much for Something Awful.

                  Free speech absolutism was a mistake…

                  (If you ask: there are now people too much for KiwiFarms, usually those that also want to torture animals rather than going after animal abusers for internet cookie points)

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              If he was being watched by 4channers. He’d be reading their language and using said language mixed with his own. I don’t remember any of the clips I saw of him saying it but I’m not eliminating that it may have happened

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      Terry A. Davis popularised the term. He was a software engineer that ended up with a very bad case of schizophrenia. While unemployed due to his illness, he streamed while working on his own operating system that he built with the intention of “communicating with God”. While streaming, he used to go on these rants about how federal agents are spying on him, calling them “glowies” more often than not along the n word with a very hard r at the end. The term “glowies” has very racist associations.

      In other words, you need to be somewhat fairly far down the alt-right pipeline if you actually talk about “glowies”.

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        TempleOS is legit super impressive, it’s a shame the dude was pretty much insane but also that’s probably what it takes to code an entire OS from scratch entirely by yourself.

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    Oh that queer hating fuck is still around?

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    At this point you are allowed to put “George Soros” in scare quotes too. It is a good time to be alive. /S

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      fuck it, just call him “The JEW George Soros” so everyone understands where your opinions lie.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      It’s a bit worse than that, the term started with a slur attached

      Glowie, also known as a Glown*****, is a slang term popular on 4chan’s /pol/ board used in reference to CIA or other governmental agents posing as ordinary 4chan users…

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        The originator of the term is the late Terry Davis, a paranoid schizophrenic and developer of TempleOS. He used to go on angry rants about “glow in the dark CIA niggers”, or glowies for short.

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          He was discovered by 4channers and harassed up until his death. His choice of language, and mental deterioration, were due to them in no small part

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            If that dude got proper support, he could have done wonders; he made animated icons for his 16-color assembly-coded OS, and a simple 3d racer! All by himself!

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              Yeah, he was definitely talented. It’s unfortunate that he was not only schizophrenic, but also had followers that made it worse.

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            Damn, I didn’t know he got Chris Chan’d. Ugh. So fucking tragic.

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    I understood what he said. Strip out some rude terms and it sounds accurate. The comments here sound like someone shouted “squirrel” to a pack of rabid dogs.

    I also lack common sense and am posting this comment. In my feeble defense I really don’t know the guy, and suspect he likes baiting others

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      Which is accurate? It reads like an unhinged paranoid conspiracist. Do you think Geroge Soros runs mozilla? Do you think it’s being controlled by federal agents?

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            The original op took some things out of context, Ford, last I checked, was not a bastion of the left. He names big donors.

            Then he describes how that money trickles down; and the last I checked the not so polite description is more accurate than not.

            I don’t mind people bashing bad guys here; and I’m sure this fellow has spent years raiding your hackles. But some people like me, it’s just embarrassing to read

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          You said it “sounds accurate” then complained about people’s criticism of it. You didn’t actually give any detail about what’s accurate about it or try to explain it in terms that aren’t “rude”.

          So my reading comprehension is fine, it’s just your ability to actually explain what it is you agree with (in terms that aren’t “rude”) is lacking.

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            Ok:

            • list of donors that are not all left
            • parent organizations that get money from above
            • mozilla gets money from parents

            Op latches onto one donor; pulls some other stuff out , and the crowd goes wild

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              This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs

              Ok, so you say the donors are not all left, so why would a politically diverse set of donors result in Mozilla having “lefties-only” hiring practices? Reading comprehension requires some critical thinking.

              It seems Brendan Eich doesn’t understand that it’s a politcal diverse group that donated to Mozilla (as you do), given the next sentence. Someone with strong reading comprehension would understand logic of, but I’ll explain it to you. His statement is saying that Mozilla became a politically biased organization because of influence from those that donated to it.

              Though your strong reading comprehension may have resulted in you having a different interpretation of “lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply” to mean… well maybe explain what that means to us poor illiterate people that don’t possess your intellectual prowess, LOL.

              Also do you care to comment on your interpretation on the “glowies” remark? What does that word mean to you? What is Brendan Eich saying there? Something you agree with I guess.

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              Okay, but what’s the bad part here? That’s just a very generic overview of how donating works.

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                The bad part is four things:

                • the op either deliberately or legitimately did not understand what was being said
                • the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said
                • having this many comments out of whack with this many upvotes gives ammunition to the bigots
                • this is a tech forum ??
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                  the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said

                  What part of my post isn’t something he said

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      Urban dictionary says it’s a term that refers to when an undercover government agent fails to blend in with whoever they’re trying to blend in with.

      • @[email protected]
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        Would that apply to James Bond? I’ve always wondered how everyone in those movies didn’t instantly know who he was. Kinda like Archer. Archer is definitely a glowie.

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          The books were clearer about this, in fairness. Bond wasn’t a spy so much as an agent provocateur and a major part of his role was to cause disruption, panic and general fuss, but in a controlled way.

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            Agents provocateur are actually what we historically had to worry about just as much as spies. They’re the guy who’s just raring to go do something a bit risky or really wants to run security for your event. Doing what they say or aiding them will get you arrested.

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      I was thinking that a glowie was a handie performed outdoors on a full moon.

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      Ita basically that but instead of Vampires invading Highschoolers DMs it’s men in black invading their discord channels.

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    For those looking for alternatives, there are a number Firefox forks such as Mullvad and Librewolf and then there’s Chromium and it’s various forks (just avoid Edge and, now, sadly, Brave)

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    This whole thread is a Reddit-style two minutes’ hate session that gets pissy about the language of his post without addressing the content.

    Eich is right to be wary of US Intelligence infiltration of the non-profit sector, and his characterization of the sector’s hiring preferences is probably accurate.

    Also the image presented by the glowies concept is hilarious, and demonstrates again why the Right memes better than the Left.

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      Except the content of his post also blames the left, which is kind of fucking stupid when the government is undergoing a billionaire coup of the PayPal boys.

    • @[email protected]
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      this is the reason why you get banned from reddit, by posting false evidence that subs can easily detect, and you keep crying here or another site.

    • @[email protected]
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      Lol. The right only thinks they’re good at meming because you guys huff your own farts. Your memes are cringe and ass.

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    I’ve been trying to move away from Google Chrome for awhile now. Brave was the easiest move for me - it’s super slick and almost exactly like Google Chorme. But they just cannot help themselves from pushing Cryto BS on the startup page like every day - it’s weird. I get they offset advertisements with Crypto, and maybe before The President ran a Crypto rugpull I’d be onboard, but now that the Rich Elites have publicly shown their hand in how they want to use Crypto I just can’t support Brave.

    Anyway, I’ve moved to Opera for the time being. If anyone else has suggestions I’m open to hear em, but like, I’m too used to webkit devtools.

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      After Firefox changed its TOS a lot of people (including me) have jumped to LibreWolf. It takes FF, removes any parts that phone home, and turns on many privacy options.

      It takes a little tweaking to make all websites work correctly. I have it running almost perfectly on windoze. I tried installing on Ubuntu last night but my Linux newbie status held me back.

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      Turn it all off and it’s no more in your face. The browser itself functions great when configured according to your needs.

      Fuck their CEO though. Focus on the product. It works and consistently ranks as one of the highest orivacy based browser according to the EFF and multiple non profit sources.

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        At that point, why give the nazi fuck any browser usage? If you don’t trust the source, don’t trust the product.

        Like the other person said, use Ungoogled Chromium. I use it on a couple of my devices and it works pretty well.

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          Do you know any alternative to forgetful browsing? Basically the only thing keeping me. Just so much more convenient always-on incognito mode.

          Also the fact that I can just turn off all the stuff that makes them money.

          Also I don’t expect manifest v2 support on ungoogled chromium to be reliable.

          Edit: just remembered this exists: https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete. Currently trying it out with ironfox.

          Edit2: Apparently LibreWolf has this button to add websites to the exclusion list for cookie deletion on exit if you click the lock button

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          The thing I’ve started to notice is the further you stray away from a big box products and into micro custom solutions there is always trade-offs. So far as being unique and the hassle that comes with it maintenance.

          The more hands off you are big corpo and I agree they aren’t your friends, the more you have to maintain the software or setup personally. Or trust the person or people doing it all day everyday and never let up.

          I trust other people mostly, who’s job it is to do these things all day everyday. Having 3rd parties to audit them, than I could be able to, or would want to, consistently maintain software at the standard it requires with the fast changing landscape we have today.

          While you gain more features to some degree, you lose in others like security against vulnerabilities and sheer eyes and minds on the code.

          Fuck their CEO if he is off the wall. Focus on the goal of privacy and the tool you need, the rest is fluff. Use what you need first then want.