An enraged Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) again lashed out at Senate Democrats over what she called Friday evening an “inexplicable abdication.”

  • @[email protected]
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    1322 months ago

    It’s frankly incredible just how devoted the US Democratic party is to losing. They’re so ridiculously ineffectual.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 months ago

        Some guy in a young democrats group called me out for being stupid in 2005 when I held the position that lobbying was bullshit.

        “Well how do you get your needs met and points heard?”

        “Because it’s their fucking job and if I have bribe them to do it, the whole system needs to be shut down”

        “You just don’t even understand what you don’t understand”

        “I think I understand enough to call it out as bullshit”

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      2 months ago

      They are a manufactured opposition, and crucial to the success of the fascist coup. Americans should remember that when the civil war starts, and hold them accountable.

  • Monkey With A Shell
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    1182 months ago

    My YES vote is not an endorsement of this deeply flawed CR. My YES vote is [100 percent] about refusing to shut our government down. I refuse to punish working families and plunge millions of Americans into chaos. -Fedderman

    For fuck sake man, have you looked around? Shutting down everything and nerfing this tool’s ability to direct anyone to do anything would be less chaotic than it is right now.

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      2 months ago

      You can’t blame him. He is brain damaged. That’s why he’s conservative. He’s the only DEI hire that should be removed.

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        alot of stroke often turn into a nutty right winger, or a nutty right winger christian. tila tequila, kevin sorbo, or had brain damage from other sources. i was watching a video of someone with schizophrenia and how he fell into the right wing/fundamentalism rabbit hole and said it was a very dangeorus mix.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 months ago

      fetterman was always a hack, i dont think he really cares about “working families” after his stroke.

  • @[email protected]
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    342 months ago

    The are owned. They are responsible to what happens now. They are not for the people, they are for themselves.

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    91 month ago

    Democrats are past cooked. I’m not sure it will.matter to primary these losers, I don’t think Dems will ever win a majority ever again.

  • @[email protected]
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    81 month ago

    I can understand that some people become afraid of Nazis and bend the knee, but these people didn’t even put up a fight.

    • The Quuuuuill
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      52 months ago

      only if we’re going to get on that john brown timing we should go in with a better plan. not saying not to go in on that john brown timing. john brown and john g fee both did important things and i think they both were recuired to make forward progress and our current problem is we haven’t enough browns and we have too many fees

        • Monkey With A Shell
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          32 months ago

          Interesting thought, she potentially could put Obama as VP to flip their lids as well. The 22nd amendment says ‘no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice’ it doesn’t explicitly preclude service by succession if the president resigned or died. Not that I’d hope anything bad for AOC but it would be funny to see the reaction.

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        112 months ago

        That would be great, but we’d still need two progressive Democrats to primary the NY Senate seats.

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          142 months ago

          Letitia James and Juumane Williams. Need to replace gov Hochul as well but I can live with nation over state.

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        202 months ago

        I want her so bad as president, but I don’t know that misogynists would let it happen. I think there’s way more misogyny in this country that we expect.

        source: I’m a guy, and when they’re left to their own more than half the people I know are horrible to and about women.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      i prefer she stayed in the house and let others to run the senate, just to keep the seats safe. probably need to start running candidates in these DINOs districts.

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    442 months ago

    They knew they were going to get crapped on for this. I’m glad she’s saying it, but Fetterman and Schumer don’t give a shit you can believe that, and I see no reason to think the rest of them do either.

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      32 months ago

      fetterman is a no brainer in voting for it, but the others have same donors as the gop probably threatened them to pull funding thier livelyhood.

  • Not Chad McTruth
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    42 months ago

    if she thinks using made up words is going to stop me from uncovering the truth she is wrong

    • @[email protected]
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      282 months ago

      It’s right there in the article.

      We had an agreed upon plan, House took immense risk, then Senate turned around midway and destroyed it w/ a fear-based, inexplicable abdication.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 months ago

        That is what Democrats have always done. AOC endorsed these people. This is not a surprise to anyone who paid attention the last 20 years.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          You’re blaming the wrong person, but it has reached the point where people need to seriously consider what the point of the Democratic Party is if they won’t even offer a token resistance.

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            42 months ago

            AOC is there to offer the token resistance. The democrats are doing what they have always done; capitulate to the right because they too are bought and paid for by Republican donors.

  • HubertManne
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    62 months ago

    I have been thinking about this and im no longer sure this was a bad move. With what trump is doing now in tearing apart the government. It can be fought in the courts. With a shutdown he would have cart blanche to furlough anyone he wants and keep paying his insiders and the courts could not say boo because shutdown. Further he could say all bad effects are because of the democrats because shutdown. At least now the courts can fight it and the bad effects are all from his poor decisions.

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      132 months ago

      You’re missing a fundamental truth here. They control the government. If they wanted to shut it down they could have done that. This bill was better for them than a straight up shut down.

      There’s also the other problem which is if someone needs your votes on a bill to pass it then you should be able to negotiate things into said bill before you vote for it. That’s politics 101. Chuck Schumer has failed at the very fundamental aspect of politics here. He gave away his vote for nothing. Or as I suspect gave it away because he’s okay with everything in the bill because it’s what he wants as well.

      • HubertManne
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        22 months ago

        It would have looked incredibly bad for them to shut it down. They are the party in control. Its their bill. Its not like shuttding down is way better its merely a win win for them. Its only the minority party where it makes a differnece. All previous cases where the presidency was not looking to simply tear apart the government a shutdown was bad for them but since it effectively does what trump is already doing it would not really matter much for him.

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          122 months ago

          They very very very obviously don’t care if they look bad. I honestly don’t understand how you could have any other impression. They got what they wanted. Plain and simple. They made this bill so bad that it was worse than a government shutdown and Chuck Schumer still accepted it.

          • HubertManne
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            42 months ago

            I mean I made my point but will expand. Under shutdown. They furlough anyone they want. They say any bad effects are from the shutdown (democrats). Courts are powerless to say who gets furloughed because its a shutdown (as opposed to unlawful firings). After shutdown they fire furloughed people because hey they got by without them during the shutdown (even though they really didn’t). They got what they want either way but since the government is the only one challenging the illegal behavior its in some ways better with the shutdown especially when they can blame dems for it. I honestly think the shudown is preferable for them as long as they can say its not their fault.

    • BrikoXOP
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      202 months ago

      Federal courts can still operate after government shutdown. While most of their funding comes from the Congress, they have their reserve funds and others sources like fees from court document filings.

      • HubertManne
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        32 months ago

        they can operate but because of the shutdown employees have to be furloughed and they can choose anyone. when they fire someone it can be done without cause or break laws that can allow the courts to undo it but there will be little ability to undo a furlough that is because of a shutdown.

    • @[email protected]
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      92 months ago

      If a shutdown is such a win for trump, why weren’t republicans voting against cloture?

      • HubertManne
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        32 months ago

        because they would look incredibly stupid. it was their bill. also in win win scenarios it does not really matter.

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      22 months ago

      Even if the right move was “give up and do what the Republicans want,” they still did a terrible job. House Democrats held the line and stuck their necks out, only to get blindsided, and Schumer shouldn’t have signaled that there’d be a fight right before he caved. The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing, and only a handful of people in the party seem to even be trying to do anything.

      • HubertManne
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        12 months ago

        I can agree with the second part but the first part is just a phrasing to make it sound bad. I mean the move to use the republicans blunder against them sounds a lot better. I don’t really know what internal talk went with the democrats but I would not be surprised if it was somewhat like what we see online but with the membership with some saying we can’t go with anything they do on principle and others saying wait a second doing that will be overall worse.

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      I’m glad someone is saying this.

      While I understand people don’t want to give Trump any wins, choosing the shut the government down is the wrong hill to die on. Given the chaos that DOGE has caused, and the executive branch throwing around their power completely unchecked, shutting down the government would plunge america into chaos.

      I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Trump had a plan to frame the government shutdown as “government inefficiency” and use it to grab much more executive power.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 months ago

        Let the Republicans take the blame for bring it all down.

        Oh wait, you’re right. The Democrats would never blame them either.

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          22 months ago

          I mean, does it really matter?

          Even if the Democrats are blaming Trump for the shutdown, what do you think would be Trump’s next move after Congress refuses to fund the government?