Summary
Sen. Lindsey Graham warned that halting U.S. military aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine could be “worse than Afghanistan.”
He urged continued support until a ceasefire is reached and announced plans for sanctions on Russia’s banking and energy sectors.
The Trump administration paused aid after a heated Oval Office meeting where Trump and JD Vance clashed with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. Russia escalated attacks following the fallout.
U.S. and Ukrainian officials will meet in Saudi Arabia to discuss a minerals deal and ceasefire, while Trump seeks further concessions from Ukraine.
Never thought I’d die fighting side by side with an elf.
there are a few old school, russia-hating republicans still left in congress. they just also hate a few other things closer-to-home a bit more to actually do something about the track the administration is sending us down.
you won’t. he’ll switch sides the next time he’s in bluetooth range to krasnov
How about some ladybugs?
In exactly 6 hours he’s going to have a 25 item list of why this is now a good thing. play both sides so he can always get fucked just how he likes.
Fucking windsock
Lindsey, just a few days ago:
“He either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with, or he needs to change,” Graham said.
Trump thinks he fixed afghanistan.
And every US president since Bush thought, that they were fixing Afghanistan. And it let nowhere, except killing a lot of people and wasting a lot of tax payer money, aka. enriching the MIC buddies of the Republican and Democrat party.
Pulling out of Afghanistan was reasonable. The US should have learned since Vietnam, that they are not fixing anything with invading other countries and forcing a regime change. However they also don’t want to fix anything. They want to destabilize and destroy, to prevent regions from emerging as economic and strategic competitors and to enrich their MIC buddies.
Also Vietnam was not a war fought primarily against North Vietnam, it was fought against the civilian resistance against the French/US installed colonial regime in South Vietnam.
No they claimed they had a plan. The orange turd thinks he really fixed it. The US should have learned something from Vietnam but none of that stuff you are talking about.
Oh hey look he found one of his vertebrae.
Worthless traitor cunt.
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Key bit: “ he urged support until a ceasefire is reached….”
Anyone remember what happened in Georgia when a ceasefire was reached?
Why go so far? Ukraine had a ceasefire with Russia between 2019 and 2022. There were even working mechanisms to deal with conflicts. Russia showed it can’t be trusted.
The Ukrainian government made no effort to implement Minsk II, had it been implemented then this war would likely not have happened.
Minsk explicity stated that elections come first and then withdrawal. Ukraine wanted Russia to withdraw first before allowing elections in the DPR and LPR which was against the agreement.
Ukraine also had the obligation to uphold linguistic rights to ethnic minorities but violated the Minsk Agreements with the 2019 language law which didn’t outright ban the Russian language but did discriminate against those who did not speak Ukrainian or an EU language.
Zelenskyy initially did campaign on a pro-peace platform but he was quickly pressured by far right militias to do otherwise.
You mean the law regarding Crimea and Donbas that Europe persuaded Ukraine to withdraw a month before Nazi Russia decided to violate the ceasefire? That’s a great example of the ceasefire mechanisms working.
The language law was only approved after the invasion, and given the Ruskyy Mir speech, it’s not surprising Ukraine is not comfortable with promoting Russian inside their borders.
You mean the law regarding Crimea and Donbas that Europe persuaded Ukraine to withdraw a month before
Yes, problem is that despite the 26 January 2022 Normandy Format meeting that resulted in this, Russia received no words about Ukraine’s readiness to swiftly start the implementation of the Minsk agreements.
Zelenskyy himself even admitted that he never intended to implement Minsk.
The language law was only approved after the invasion
What do you mean? It was declared effective on 16 July 2019.
I think you are confusing the 2019 law with the 19 June 2022 restriction on Russian books and music.
Nazi Russia
Is Russia composed of Nazis?
Huh… I didn’t expect Graham to regurgitate a position opposing Trump and Russia.
Somebody must’ve outbid the oligarchs…
Do you really think, you fat traitorous fuck?
With these comments it’s difficult to tell whose cock he’s gargling.
Hey buddy, wanna find that fucking backbone during confirmation hearings?
Lindsey Graham has always and will always stand for the military industrial complex and is consistently hawkish. He’s shaking in his little meemaw’s booties because a cessation of aid means a drop in contractor spending.
“I can’t believe most Americans after what they saw today would want to be partners with Zelensky,” Graham said. “Ukraine is an important ally.”
-Lindsey Graham the day of Trump/Zelensky meeting where Trump threw a bitch fit.
He’s a flip flopping piece of shit. He supports Ukraine but wants the man fighting for them to step down. Zelensky stepping down is basically throwing in the towel. They just want a fucking compliant leader who will do what they say.
but wants the man fighting for them to step down
Leader worship is not wise. Also Zelensky pressed out Zaluzhny.
And no, I think they really want a ceasefire, not a surrender. On terms good enough for the US, but maybe Ukraine would hope for better terms. Ukraine right now appears less dependent on foreign military assistance than in 2022, so it can “negotiate” this way a bit.
Of course they want a compliant puppet, that’s not in question. Just - the Ukrainian war seems stabilized. Russia has seen the limits of its abilities, and there seems to be an opportunity for ceasefire and negotiations. Trying to return all the occupied territory for Ukraine is the perfect which is the enemy of the good.
I feel like you’d have a different stance on this if you were Ukrainian
Why? I think an Ukrainian would be even more keen on that. Ukrainians bear the main cost of war. It would make sense for the majority of them to wish for a ceasefire even more than for Trump. Bear in mind that many Ukrainians in the Web are refugees elsewhere, so they might seem very emotional and aggressive and irresponsible, it’s very easy to call for total war over the Web from another country.
It would make sense for the majority of them to wish for a ceasefire even more than for Trump
Why? Russia has never honored a ceasefire. Within a few months or years Russia is back to seize more Ukrainian land. Why on Earth does anyone believe Russia would honor one now?
Because Russia needs a ceasefire “saving face” for its “elite”, in fact it’s, of course, not about saving face, their face is covered with piss, but about persuading themselves. I don’t think there are many war goals to be reached with further fighting. Russian and Ukrainian militaries now have something resembling parity in terms of professionalism and processes. Basically a huge polygon to train two armies. It just doesn’t make sense for them to fight each other IMHO.
Anyway, with what Western-supported jihadist government is now doing in Syria (literally massacring Alawites and Christians on the coast, the EU has literally condemned Alawites for “rebelling”, accused them of massacring themselves and called them Assad supporters, Russia has released something meaningless, France and Greece some good words, but without actions, there’s been a UNSC meeting which ended with nothing ; there are a few thousands of people hiding on the Russian base, but Russia doesn’t have a good history at delivering on at least such expectations ; the last numbers of the dead I’ve seen were 7k-10k, 2 days ago, but nothing has stopped, apparently, and since Syria’s “new authorities” are already trying to persuade those refugees to leave the base, it appears they’ve killed much more), it’s the first time since 2022 that I started doubting that Russia is the bad boy here. Maybe those in Kremlin knew something I didn’t, having intelligence services and all that.
Maybe the West is evil and Russia is virtuous for the sole reason it’s not part of the West.
It just doesn’t make sense for them to fight each other IMHO.
Russia fights for domestic political reasons. Ukrainians fight to avoid annihilation. If Ukraine stops fighting there will no longer be a meaningful Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t have the option to stop fighting.
Next for your tangent, that’s a gold medal performance in metal gymnastics to get where you got.
Maybe the West is evil and Russia is virtuous for the sole reason it’s not part of the West.
First, we’re talking geopolitics here. There is no single “good” side and no single “evil” side. All sides will do things judged by others as evil. Second, to suggest russia is virtuous even by itself, is insultingly silly.
You don’t know what total war means, just FYI.
You should pass the dendropithecus level in this game before giving FYIs.
Hyperbola is a thing in texts.
Exponential graphing? Or do you mean hyperbole?
lindsey gram can eat so much fucking shit. gotta be one of the most egregious examples of a high pressure firehose of bullshit spewing in any country’s history. even trump’s 180s are kindergarten tier by comparison
Lindsay Graham is a bitch
He’ll say the opposite next week. Lady G just dances for whoever he’s trying to please.
Now you push back?! Fuck you Lindsey. You are a traitorous peace of shit and no one will remember you
Lindsey Graham has flip flopped on Ukraine with dizzying frequency since January 20
Wasn’t he praising little d just last week on this very thing?
Speaking to reporters in the White House driveway right afterward, South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham predicted that the shouting match could end U.S. support for Zelenskyy, calling the meeting a “complete, utter disaster.”
“Somebody asked me, am I embarrassed about Trump. I have never been more proud of the president. I was very proud of JD Vance standing up for our country. We want to be helpful. What I saw in the Oval Office was disrespectful, and I don’t know if we can ever do business with Zelenskyy again," Graham, the Senate Budget Committee Chairman, said. “The way he handled the meeting, the way he confronted the president, was just over the top.”
Yeah, it wasn’t a disaster or over the top because of anything little d or “JD” “Vance” did during their planned ambush of a guy trying to fight off a dictator invading his country. Not according to Lindsey. Last week, anyway.
