Summary

Elon Musk’s DOGE faces mounting pressure to show achievements amid criticism. Staffers, under pressure from Trump administration officials, seek public relations wins to counter negative headlines.

Cuts to federal offices led to mass layoffs, and efforts to modernize government services have been chaotic. DOGE prioritizes speed over security and protecting sensitive information.

Trump has distanced himself, stating agency chiefs, not Musk, control department cuts, preferring a “scalpel” over a “hatchet” approach. Public opinion has turned against DOGE, with 48% disapproving versus 34% approving, according to a Washington Post-Ipsos poll.

With limited time before their tenure ends, DOGE officials are desperate to show results.

  • @radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com
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    63 months ago

    Typical of useless employees: show some results even if they are in detriment to the business. The important thing is to show that you are doing something.

  • @QuarkVsOdo@lemmy.world
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    203 months ago

    Like all his others companies.

    • SpaceX has exploding star ships
    • StarLink comes with so many ties, that alternatives are highly sought after
    • Neural link might already be defunct, I don’t know
    • His stake in OpenAI is too complicated to follow
    • Tesla has 3 models you could buy, none of them is FSD yet, one is the Cyberstuck, no truck, no robots.
    • Boring company was just fluff and BS, since a tunnel that’s only 1 lane wide is a safety nightmare and hyperloop is like the simpisons “monorail” Episode

    Maybe at some point in his mid 50ties he should have focused on one thing.

    • Comtief
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      53 months ago

      Maybe at some point in his mid 50ties he should have focused on one thing.

      He seems to be focused on twitter posting.

      • Flic
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        @Fredthefishlord @QuarkVsOdo all his companies basically exist to siphon off government funding that should be going to something more worthy. In the case of SpaceX, look what’s happening to NASA now. And with the Hyperloop, he openly said he promoted that to take attention and money to prevent the development of high speed rail

      • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        133 months ago

        SpaceX is not some virtue of musk, he also pollutes heavily, and ignore safety standards to launch all those in texas

        • @Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          33 months ago

          They have 95% success rate for landing boosters in a relatively new technology, saving loads in terms of trash and pollution (if that’s even a metric somebody is remotely interested in for space travel).

          This is a huge leap. Probably not worth giving Musk credit for, but still.

      • @Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee
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        Agreed, I despise Musk as much as any sane person does now, but I just can’t get on board with this prevalent behaviour of indiscriminately trashing everything about a person who you don’t like.

        Just be honest! He clearly has played a big part in achieving some spectacular results: Whether you think that was in engineering, or by cunning manipulation all the way up; the fact is SpaceX have achieved feats nobody else has, and I don’t believe it would have happened without Musk.

        None of that changes the fact he is a cunt, but dishonesty in criticism only weakens it.

        • @Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          23 months ago

          I like this place. If this was in reddit, you giving even a little bit of credit to the man would leave you with -200 and probably banned.

          It’s almost like the world is nuanced and not just red vs blue…

      • @frezik@midwest.social
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        23 months ago

        So much of the criticism focuses on Starship, specifically. Starship has never claimed to be anything other than a test program. Look back into the history of NASA test programs and you’ll fine lots of exploded pieces of rockets. Starship is also moving along a whole lot better than the SLS at a comparable stage of the development track. People bleating about this clearly don’t have a lot of knowledge about rockets and their history.

        Safety is somewhat valid. Obviously, exploding rockets over the Gulf of Mexico is not a good thing, but the chances of debris actually hitting a plane are minuscule. See Big Sky Theory, which is the basis for a lot of air traffic policy. It’s just that the aviation industry has extremely tight safety standards, and so they divert planes.

        Falcon 9 also exists, and now has a better track record than Soyuz (the previous gold standard). People making these arguments seem to conveniently leave that out.

        Now, environmental standards, how Musk is trying to gut NASA and the FAA, and how the company never would have survived without government subsidies? Yes, absolutely focus on those. Also, the fact that SpaceX employees are mostly insulated from their idiot CEO. They’re the real heroes of the company.

        In a different Administration, I think SpaceX should be nationalized and run something like the USPS or Amtrak. NASA shouldn’t make their own rockets anymore. They’re really bad at making anything close to cost effective.

      • @QuarkVsOdo@lemmy.world
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        63 months ago

        Yes and no. The engines and upright landing is very good… designing&Testing unbound by yearly grant applications but with “fuck you money” really propelled the industry forward.

        But they cut so many corners.

  • Blackout
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    253 months ago

    There’s still time to die a hero Elon. All you have to do is commit hari-kari and I will build you a statue.

  • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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    93 months ago

    The funny thing is that Elon Musk is the wealthiest man ever and enough hecklers chanting “no one likes Elon” in a sing song manner would bring him to tears

  • @redlemace@lemmy.world
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    613 months ago

    I’d say it’s predictable … Had it been a success I think Trump would be shouting “One of my master moves, this is the mother of all my moves” Now we get to read “Trump has distanced himself” meaning it’s failing and Musk is gonna be sacrificed without a thought “I don’t know what Musk did, he acted like a loose cannon but I fired him for his incompetence”

      • @MrVilliam@lemm.ee
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        303 months ago

        True, but what does musk have left to give to trump? If he’s no longer useful, trump will have no problem dumping him and moving on. As soon as he thinks it’s more beneficial to turn on musk than it is to suck his dick, he will. Loyalty is one way for him.

        • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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          93 months ago

          Elon has said he will spend the money to drive out any Republican that votes against Trump. Elon controls Congress.

          • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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            23 months ago

            I read that somewhere, both Elon and Trump are in a codependent relationship financially and socially.

        • @BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca
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          13 months ago

          I’m pretty sure musk is still the richest man in the world (at least on paper, who knows what people like Putin have hidden away). Until that changes there is a .00001% chance of trump and musk’s relationship deteriorating

        • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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          153 months ago

          I think its a game of “who owns the zeitgeist?” Its why “Rumble” exists; why fascists sought their own media ecosystems; its why Elon bought twitter.

          There is some threshold where another billion buys you no more power, or at least, significantly less than your last billion. Hence buying a the worlds largest microphone, twitter, for what seemed like an overpriced market value.

          So if Elon controls Trumps access; or even more threateningly, if Elon captures the zeitgeist, and Trump is no longer in control of narratives, or Elon is able to create and inject his own, thats a real material threat.

          Trump is going to die soon; whoever inherits this cult is the real threat.

          • @HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org
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            23 months ago

            Do cults inherit well?

            The leadership of the DPRK transitioned across generations, but there was plenty of institutional alignment and wheel greasing.

            Trump will be trying to negotiate with the reaper for six months after he’s dead. I can’t imagine he considers his mortality, let alone in the context of anything that has to survive after his departure. There will be a free for all to grab his mantle.

      • @gothic_lemons@lemmy.world
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        13 months ago

        If you think Trump cares if people did things for him, even Musk, maybe you should talk to one of the dozens of contractors Trump has stiffed over the years.

  • @Billybob22@feddit.uk
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    43 months ago

    Yes where are the weapons of mass corruption?

    Maybe Saddam Husein can help?

    Oh no they hung him!

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      oh no they hung him!

      Hanged*

      Sorry, not usually that person but this one drives me nuts because literally everyone gets it wrong, including TV, movies, news.

      I guess at this point, it’s gotten the “literally” treatment, and “hung” has become valid since it’s used so much.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    93 months ago

    In the end, DOGE financial waste will be bigger than any “savings” they produced, but the real costs of their action will be much, much bigger in the end.

    Just think of the people who will get killed by hurricanes without a warning because they dismantle NOAA.

        • @werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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          23 months ago

          More trans people should come out as loan repayment lovers. It would be such a shame to just erase those loans away. And migrant families love paying the loans. Imagine if they had no loans to repay! What would their purpose in life be then with so much money just hanging around all the time.

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    48% disapproving.

    He’s destroying our entire government and 52% of Americans think ‘yeah, this is fine’ or ‘yeah, who cares?’

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      253 months ago

      They don’t understand what the people being fired do. There’s no marketing or awareness campaigns for the GSA clerks that keep every government office in the country stocked with chairs; or the mental health nurses that pick up the phone at 2 in the morning.

      People think it’s some white guy just golfing while they collect checks.

    • hotspur
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      133 months ago

      When they were selling DOGE during the campaign, the pitch was they’d have a year or something to do their thing. The EO might have it spelled out can’t recall. But they also said they would just be an advisory group? Not insider threat hackers and political commissars at the top of every agency. Not sure why they are sweating a time limit since they dont care about any other law, regulation or protocol. I guess if they don’t deliver enough, Trump won’t do another EO extending their presence? They’re literally reworking agency stuff so that the DOGE staff have to sign off on commissioners actions, hiring etc so are they just going to revert that once the clock strikes midnight for DOGE?

      I suppose the idea is that the admin wants to lock in all the creepy shit from project 2025 prior to mid terms since they know that all of it will end up being wildly unpopular and will result in republican losses in congress and potentially gridlock from that point forward… but again, their playbook essentially calls for the end of democracy, so why are they sweating something like the midterms…

  • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    33 months ago

    Ooh traditional American victories included overthrowing a regime in a third world country, there’s one he doesn’t even have to do much to do.