Slow June, people voting with their feet amid this AI craze, or something else?
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Personally I’ve abandoned ChatGPT in favor of Claude. It’s much more reliable.
I imagine there’s a drop off in casual usage. It’s a trending thing and I’m sure a lot of people checked it out a few times for the novelty of it.
I still have yet to try it, really could care less
You really should. It’s pretty darn amazing.
I still use it daily. I made a decent Set of prompts and it pretty much does all of my daily annoying writing Tasks at work. This saves me a lot of time and i can Focus on more exciting projects. 10% isnt even that much after everyone tried it out and Played around with it. I think as a tool it just isnt useful for everyone, but for my Job it defenitely is.
Did you use it to write this comment? And if so, is that why random words are capitalized?
No i didn’t. Random words being capitalized is because my phones keyboard is Set to german and i dont bother correcting it.
What kind of prompts have you created? I’m interested in where you managed to save time.
I tried it for about 20 minutes
Had it do a few funny things
Thought huh that’s neat
Went on with life
Since then the only times I’ve thought about ChatGPT has been seeing people using it in classes I’m in and just sitting here thinking “this is a fucking introductory course and you’re already cheating?”
In discrete mathematics right now and overheard way too many students hitting a brick wall with the current state of AI chatbots. as if thats what they used almost exclusively up to this point
If only there was some way these student’s could’ve learned how to understand the material
It’s because it’s summer and students aren’t using it to cheat on their assignments anymore.
It’s definitely this. Except the kids taking summer classes, which statistically probably have higher instances of cheating.
For my professional work, the training data is way too outdated by now for ChatGPT to be anywhere near being useful. The browsing feature also can’t make up for it, because it’s pretty bad at Internet search (bad search phrases etc).
i find even for really complex stuff it’s pretty good as long as you direct it: it can suggest some things, you can do some searching based on that, maybe give it a few links to summarise for you, etc
it doesn’t do the work for you, but it makes a pretty good assistant that doesn’t quite understand the subject matter
I’m old enough to not needing a babysitter to use the Internet for research.
It even told me a few times that its training data is too outdated and that there probably was some progress in that area. I have to freaking push it to actually do a web search to update that knowledge with prompts like “You have web access, use it!”. It then finds a few posts on stackoverflow I’ve already seen and draws some incorrect conclusions from that.
I’m way faster on my own.
Try out Bing, I like it a lot more over gpt. Works in Edge only though
In my experience, Bing Chat is even worse, because it skips the part where ChatGPT is trying to come up with something based on the training data and goes straight to bad web searches with incorrect summaries.
Hmm weird, for me it just tells me it doesn’t have good enough info to provide what I need
I also had that a few times, but it doesn’t make it any better.
your experience does not match mine
which is not saying that your experience is wrong or that you’re using it wrong, however i and many others have managed to get exceptionally good results out of it, and you should be aware of that fact
referring to these experiences as “needing a babysitter” is needlessly provocative as well; we’re all just talking here: no need to insult the intelligence of anyone that has managed to use the tool in a way that works incredibly well
i hope that at some point in the future, you’re able to have your experience match ours, and have a similar feeling of “ooooh i see now… wait… OOOOOOH I REALLY SEEEE NOW”
Well, I hope that some day I will have the same experience.
I think the main problem is that I’m only prompting it with lost causes, when I was unable to find anything on my own with very thorough searches, because there just isn’t an answer available online.
I don’t go there first, because I’m always afraid of hallucinated answers, which are very common. For example, it often just tries to guess function names of programming libraries. That’s just wasting my time.
I stopped using it when they turned paid for something like $25 CAD per month.
Then they released a “free” version with a waitlist, which always seemed full.
Have they changed it back since? I just kinda stopped caring when I couldn’t access it anymore when I needed to. And $25 CAD is crazy!
You can still use the free browser version with a free account - is not the latest and greatest version 4, but it’s the same one everyone was mega excited about just several months ago
I use it for tech support- just the other day I wanted to run a python script on my android phone. From zero to working script in an hour is a huge benefit to me, it would literally have taken me days to find out what to install, how to install it, how to generate the script, how to write out the results etc.
Not sure about other countries but you should just be able to log in and use it without issues
It’s not a craze. ChatGPT is going to change 80% of the jobs on the planet, and most people don’t even know what it is.
OpenAI’s models, including its GPT series, are available via APIs and Microsoft Azure, and so a drop in ChatGPT’s website use may be due to people moving to programmatic interfaces
I feel like this is an important detail that changes the conclusion of the article: there may be a lot more end user, through 3d party apps, but the way of measuring won’t reveal it. This especially important considering that (correct me if I’m wrong) API users are paying ones !
It’s Summer. Students are on break, lots of people on vacation, etc. Let’s wait to see if the trend persists before declaring another AI winter.
I think you’re being a bit self-centered, i’s always going to be summer somewhere. This is a tool used globally.
I see your point but:
- It’s not always summer somewhere, North and South are in spring/fall half the year.
- The global North has way more population than the south.
It’s summer somewhere half the time, but thank you for reminding them the southern hemisphere exists!
Agreed. I think being between academic years is likely a much bigger factor than we realize. I’m a college professor, and at the end of spring quarter we had a lot of conversations with undergrads, grad students, and faculty about how people are actually using AI.
Literally every undergrad student I spoke with said they use it for every written assignment (for the large part in non-cheating legit educational resource ways). Most students used it for all or most of their programming assignments. Most use it to summarize challenging or long readings. Some absolutely use it to just do all their work for them, though fewer than you might expect.
I’d be pretty surprised if there isn’t a significant bounce-back in September.
This worries me though. I’ve found chatgpt to be wrong in basically every fact-based question I’ve asked it. Sometimes subtly, sometimes completely, but it always hallucinates. You cannot use it as a source of truth.
Honestly I feel like at this point its unreliability is kind of helpful for students. They have to learn how to use it most effectively as a tool for producing their own work and not a replacement. In my classes the more relevant “problem” for students is that GPT produces written work that on the surface feels composed and sensible but is actually straight up garbage. That’s good. They turn that in, it’s extremely obvious to me, and they get an F (because that’s the grade AI earned with the garbage paper).
But they can and should use it for things it’s great at: reword this long sentence I’m having trouble phrasing concisely, help me think of a title for my paper, take my pseudocode and help me turn it into a while loop in R, generate a list of current researchers on this topic and two of their most recent publications, translate this paragraph of writing from Foucault/Marx/Bourdieu/some-good-thinker-and-bad-writer into simpler wording…
I have a calculator in my pocket even though my teachers assured me I wouldn’t. Students will have access to and use AI forever now. The worry should be that we fail to teach them the difference between a homework-bot and an incredible, versatile tool to leverage.
I have been using it to do deep dives into subjects. Especially text analysis. Do you want to know the entire voc of the Gospel of Mark in original greek for example? 1080. Now how does this compare to a section of Plato’s republic of the same size? About 6-7x as large.
So right there we can see why Mark is often viewed as a direct text while Plato is viewed as a more ambiguous writer.
Mark is a direct and terse narrative of a specific segment of Jesus’s life and teachings while the republic is an attempt to expound a philosophy and system of government.
I agree with you, but I’m not sure I’d call him a more ambiguous writer, mark is a ‘just the facts, ma’am’ notation of verbal histories near contemporary, with the other gospels being attempts to add on contemporary allegories and legends attributed by different groups to Jesus (or John who just did his own thing).
I’d be curious at the comparison of the apology and crito, similar narratives of a similar figure in a specific segment of his life (the end of it). It’s fairly direct and terse as Socrates was portrayed as being direct and terse, but otherwise the styles are similar as (throw on hard hat) Jesus appears to have been attributed many of the allegories of Socrates in the recorded gospels, which makes sense if you’re trying to appeal to followers of hellenic religions such as those in Rome and Greece.
I love Stable Diffusion but I really have no use for ChatGPT. I’m amazed at how good the output can be… i just don’t have a need to generate text like that. Also, OpenAI has been making it steadily worse with ‘safety’ restrictions. I find it super annoying and even insulting when Bing-Sydney is “THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER”. It’s like being chastised by facebook or twitter for being ‘violent’ when you made a joke.
The ability to generate photographs and illustrations of practically anything, though, is fantastic. My girlfriend has been flagellating me into creating a bunch of really useless crap to promote her business on social media using SD, and I actually enjoy that part. I’ve made thousands of photos of scenery.
I use (free) ChatGPT only as tech support (with a large dose of scepticism of the results) so none of the ‘conversational’ limitations bother me
I didn’t find the image generation AIs as sticky for me, there’s not really anything I do day-to-day that would require a novel image
Tried it a few times with poor results, it will eventually get better I guess.
Well yeah it’s kinda cool but the novelty will wear off. It’s useful sometimes but it’s not a magic elixer.
I use it for quick dnd ideas. Need an NPC on the fly? Chatgpt will help you out
What a fantastic use case.
I still use free GPT-3 as a sort of high level search engine, but lately I’m far more interested in local models. I havent used them for much beyond SillyTavern chatbots yet, but some aren’t terribly far off from GPT-3 from what I’ve seen (EDIT: though the models are much smaller at 13bn to 33bn parameters, vs GPT-3s 145bn parameters). Responses are faster on my hardware than on OpenAI’s website and its far less restrictive, no “as a large language model…” warnings. Definitely more interesting than sanitized corporate models.
The hardware requirements are pretty high, 24GB VRAM to run 13bn parameter 8k context models, but unless you plan on using it for hundreds of hours you can rent a RunPod or something for cheaper than a used 3090.
What exact ones are you using and how can I use them?
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