This came up in my health care forum.
Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.
This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.
Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.
This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
At the apex of the pyramid comes Big
BrotherOrange. BigBrotherOrange is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration.What’s not to love? Of course anyone that doesn’t like this guy would have to be mental!
This is not good. Eta; has anyone mentioned similar bills in other states?
Since 2016, quite a few. And probably before that too. And probably significantly more since 2025.
As horrible as this one is, the real problem is in numbers: every single bullshit law introduced by MAGAGOP must be called out and ultimately repealed. This democracy isn’t dying with a bang, it’'s dying by 1000 cuts.
We live in a world where people worship a businessman/politician as the literal second coming of their messiah, but “Trump Derangement Syndrome” refers to people who are critical of a convicted felon who openly ran for office to kill further prosecutions against him
Authors (5) Lucero https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.html?mem_id=1260
; Drazkowski https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.html?mem_id=1258
; Wesenberg https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.html?mem_id=1256
; Eichorn https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.html?mem_id=1219
; Gruenhagen https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.html?mem_id=1257
These all seem like real upright citizens in Minnesota, guys. /s
What in tarnation? Is Trump Derangement Syndrome a real diagnosis now?
No, just some terminally online Trump fans think it’s real.
I always thought it was a mental condition suffered by those who lack the cognitive function it takes to not vote for a fascist dictator.
Yeah, I’m using it get out of work Friday. Long weekend baby!
No, but he’s impacted mental health. I’ve had people with psychosis wondering, first term, why Trump hadn’t arrived to save them from their crappy lives yet. Crying. Shaking. Legit beside themselves with belief that he was riding in to save them from themselves post election. Going over the edge such that “the shot” needed to be deployed.
Needless to say, news was banned from that unit, airing it made breakdowns increase in both number and severity.
That said, this is not how the current conservative pundits are presenting this so called syndrome. This label is instead assisting in their dismissal of people who think Trump is having a negative impact on America, in whatever way(s) you choose to read his impact as negative. The way they toss “Trump Derangement Syndrome” around is not unlike the classic unhealthy male who can’t maintain a healthy romantic relationship and is thus quick to accuse the ex, all the exes, of being “crazy” in a sad attempt to rally social support. Similar tone.
What’s interesting is that I don’t think this is in the DSM
Yeah. They even have to call it out separately in one section of the bill. It really highlights that this is a totally made up condition.
“Mental illness” means Trump Derangement Syndrome or any of the conditions included in the most recent editions of the DC: 0-5 Diagnostic Classification of Mental Health and Development Disorders of Infancy and Early Childhood published by Zero to Three or the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome addition to the definition of mental illness
Authors (5)Lucero ; Drazkowski ; Wesenberg ; Eichorn ; GruenhagenActions
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03/17/2025 Introduction and first reading
Intro
03/17/2025 Referred to Health and Human Services“Trump Derangement Syndrome” means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump’s behavior. This may be expressed by: new text end new text begin (1) verbal expressions of intense hostility toward President Donald J. Trump; and new text end new text begin (2) overt acts of aggression and violence against anyone supporting President Donald J. Trump or anything that symbolizes President Donald J. Tru"
Just in case you missed it
What’s intense hostility these days? “Eat the rich”?
A meme post that involves suggestion of a Trump micro penis?
There’s too much interpretation left in the wind with some of those phrases.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
I think it is also important to note that it appears many of these officers are not wearing Level IV plates daily, and plainclothes cops may not be wearing any vest at all.
It’s also important to note that they’re planning on introducing gun control for people considered to be mentally ill. They are going to declare every antifascist mentally ill, and use it to take their guns away.
They don’t need to introduce anything, involuntary commitment is already a question on form 4473 and something a NICS check would flag.
Of course, they would still need to physically retrieve any firearms they may have. Unless they planned on handing them over peacefully.
I’m sorry, I lost all my firearms in an unfortunate boating accident.
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This is PROOF that Republicans LOVE Freedom and are NOT Snowflakes or Fascists!
U guys remember that scene in Schindler’s List where the little girl is screaming “Good bye you Jews!” To all the families as they are being marched off to a slave labor camp? Well this is how that sorta shit starts. Make the opposition the demon and get away with anything.
This is indeed how that sorta shit starts.
Worse, Americans also seem to have forgotten how to make that sort of shit end. Everyone agreed on what to do with Nazis 80 years ago.
Everyone certainly did not agree. A very sizable segment of US citizens were Nazi sympathizers before and after WWII. Remember what it took for the United States to get involved in the war effort in the first place.
I’ve contacted all those that I can. A director at NAMIMN did respond to my email stating that this bill won’t be heard at all. Still fucked up of them to even try.
it’s legislative shitposting/meme magic. one of them gets an idea for the meme: adding “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness to troll the libs. it provokes a reaction in us, because it’s 2025 and for all we know the damn thing might pass at the rate the fascists are consuming the state, and the Republicans’ base feeds off of our panic and grief, fueling their schadenfreude. Republican voters are the real trolls; these legislators are just their proxies.
basically, this is the meme magic formula that took 4chan from “ironic” Nazi trolls to an outright fascist resurgence across the West, that took Trump from a meme candidate to the Oval Office, that took the 51st State rhetoric from obvious hyperbole to deadly serious. it’s “just a joke” when you’re defending it, it’s “just trolling” when you’re pushing it through, and it’s “owning the libs” when you’re executing on it.
As long as you aren’t playing it down (I don’t think you are but not 100% sure) I’m with you. Historically, that’s how we got here.
Still, it needs to be called out, every step of the way. The more such “troll legislation” passes - possibly unseen - the worse things get.
Also, there’s no 3- or even more-D chess going on. MAGAGOP is just throwing shit at the wall, not too bothered if something doesn’t stick, but immediately ready to follow up if it does. So let’s make sure it doesn’t.
definitely not playing it down. the whole point of meme magic is that it shifts the Overton window so bills like these can actually pass. it’s a kind of “irony laundering.” they “troll” the Left, the Left raises alarm, the Right keks and calls us hysterical, the Center sees us as crying wolf and tunes us out. the Right pushes the “troll” legislation as far as they can because “it’s just a prank bro,” until we’re weakened enough they can actually pass it.
it’s like how the Right goads us into calling them “fascists” because they’re literally being fascists, the Right gaslights saying we’re always calling everyone “fascists,” until fascism reenters the Overton window because the Center thinks “fascism” doesn’t mean anything anymore.
honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic back when Republicans were calling centrist Dems Socialists. if we’d used this strategy as well as the Right did we could be executing Billionaires by now.
it’s a kind of “irony laundering.”
I like this. Used to be a “joke”, then something to rally around and get outraged about, then - whoopsie, it’s reality.
And most people voted for the joke or the outrage, not the reality, as I’m sure even more will find out in the years to come.honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic
Absolutely not. I know it’s “in” rn to say we have to use the same methods, no more Mr Nice Guy etc. but I disagree with that - generally, and specifically with this “meme magic”. It destroys reality, facts, truth.
There is something to be said for politicians/politics having a better social media presence though, a better sense of humor etc. No need to give up on facts at the same time.
This sounds like a great way to get a bunch of cops shot. Which is something they’re trying to push the death penalty for…
Which results in more cops getting shot
Killing a public servant leading to death penalty eligibility is one of the verbatim reasons in the law. I am confused by your comment? If you think this is new, I don’t know if it will assuage your concern that it’s a not a new phenomenon. It’s always been a death eligible crime.
It’s always been a death eligible crime.
No, it hasnt
What is wrong with people that they would rather live under the boot of dollar-store Hitler than in a tolerant society of people just getting on with life?
Lack of empathy. Fear that they are fed. Hate for different people. Sense of superiority over people who have even less than them. Total lack of responsibility. Religion.
They want people to suffer.
Evil. The word you’re looking for is evil.
They believe the propaganda that others hate them or are trying to destroy their way of life, and that dollar-store Hitler is their champion fighting for them.
They believe that bullshit against all common sense and by very deliberately ignoring any kind of evidence. Fascists are always assholes first and the fascism just serves to rationalize their shitty behaviour.
very deliberately ignoring any kind of evidence
These are people that believe in an old beard in the sky. They’re not ignoring evidence, they’re mentally incapable of processing it. There’s a good majority of Americans that literally don’t know how to think, that think dumb ignorance is somehow cute and forgivable, that believe anything they’re told because “look at his suit.”
That’s what I don’t get. Like, why can’t we just all get on with our lives, help those you have it worse than us, and work together on a better future for our children?
But no, there’s a bunch of narcissistic assholes amassing wealth and convincing the other wannabe narcissists that everyone is out to get them.
I have a small kid and have no clue how to explain to him what the fuck was going on in right now when he’s old enough to ask. I just don’t get it. It makes me sad, and helpless, and anxious, and I just don’t want to have anything to do with the rest of society. And I don’t even live in the USA but am solid upper middle class in Scandinavia.
Hello fellow Scandinavian
I share your worries, I truly think we’re going to have war at our doorsteps sooner or later, and I don’t really know what to do about it (beyond I guess, preparing mostly self-sufficient communities of like-minded individuals capable of self-defense, but yeah…)
It’s definitively scary
They believe hierarchies are natural and unavoidable, so anything to make sure they aren’t on the bottom. Anyone that can push lower on the hierarchy naturally means they are higher.
They are kept isolated and ignorant by class warfare under an undermined education system, geographically and social media algorithm bubbled, have severely limited economic prospects, exposed to childhood religious indoctrination, and have normalized extreme right wing propaganda.
They believe their small town and rural economic hardships aren’t self inflicted due to lack of unions & solidarity under worker strikes & holding local politicians accountable, and take out their anger on other working class and poor people because they feel justified by their suffering to inflict suffering on their perceived perpetrators.
In pop culture references it’s Megatron feeling justified to destroy all autobots because he was deceived by a wealthy autobot leader to slave in the energon mines.
