• @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    1932 months ago

    Wage theft is bigger than all other theft, but far fewer people are dragged onto the sidewalk and strangled to death for it. Maybe that should change.

    • @in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      222 months ago

      “When the truth walks away, everybody stays 'cuz the truth about the world is that crime does pay. So if you walk away, who is gonna stay? 'Cuz I like to think the world is a better place.”

      • CodexArcanum
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        132 months ago

        Underrated Offspring jam! I feel like Offspring get written off as pop-punk but are generally underrated as political artists.

        • @in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Listening to that album nowadays is hair-raising. It’s almost as though people have been screaming in Americans faces for decades about what’s becoming impossible to ignore, I know I was singing these lyrics since 1999:

          "Well, I’d like to tell you all about my dream

          It’s a place where strip malls abound

          And diversion’s mere moments away

          Where culture’s defined by the ones least refined

          And you’ll be left behind if you don’t fit in

          It’s all distorted in Americana my way

          Well, fuck you

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, well, my dream has come true

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, my vision has come true

          Now give me my cable, fast food

          Four-by’s, tat’s right away

          I want it right now 'cause

          My ge-generation don’t like to wait

          My future’s determined by thieves, thugs and vermin

          It’s quite an excursion but it’s okay

          Everything’s backwards in Americana my way

          Well, fuck you

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, well, my dream has come true

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, my vision has come true

          Yeah, it’s all coming true

          I’m a product of my environment

          So don’t blame me, I just work here

          But I wanna fuck it up

          My rights are denied by those least qualified

          Trading profit for pride but it’s, it’s okay

          Everything’s backwards in Americana my way

          Well, fuck you

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, my nightmare has come true

          Whoa, whoa, whoa, my nightmare has come true

          Yeah, it’s all coming true

          Yeah, it’s all coming true"

      • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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        To add to your punk rock reference :)

        The power is in the hands of the few
        There are too many homeless too many starving
        They don’t care they don’t listen
        Their profit is more important than our pain
        Than our oppression than our human rights
        Sure take from the rich and give to the poor
        But when will the greed stop when will the human rights
        Be of some importance
        They can have their money and their system
        We can’t have freedom with restrictions
        We can’t have freedom and equity with an entire
        System based on competition

        Defiance - Hands of the Few, 1995. This shit ain’t new.

    • @GraniteM@lemmy.world
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      182 months ago

      Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure during the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have nourished your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.

      James 5:1-6

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        72 months ago

        Dayum! New favorite bible passage for being obnoxious towards hypocrites with just dropped!

        And by “just” I mean “a thousand years ago”, or whenever that part of their book was written 🤷

  • sunzu2
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    92 months ago

    Parasites

    Deny them engagement and profit… Food delivery is peak luxury service but yet the normie keeps wasting money on it while crying about being poor lol

    • @Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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      252 months ago

      Like many convenience services, it’s important that it exists because some people genuinely can’t walk or can’t walk all the time, can’t chop their own fruit and veg, etc. Or genuinely don’t have enough time in the day to cook or pick something up. But people will still use these things for simple luxury reasons.

      • sunzu2
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        102 months ago

        Those are fringe use cases. Majority of it is conspicuous consumption.

        Also, grocery stores sell prepared foods and there other options for these people. Why are they choosing most expensive one?

        • @Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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          122 months ago

          I mean, most everyone will be disabled at some point in their life. They’re also useful for the average person when they’re sick and don’t have anyone to take care of them. I know I’ve struggled to feed myself when I had the flu or covid.

          But even if they are indeed fringe use cases, those services do need to exist for those cases. And restricting them isn’t very helpful either way because applying for any sorts of benefits is often difficult and/or degrading for many disabled people. BUT: we should still encourage those who CAN avoid this stuff to do so, since they are indeed damaging to worker’s rights and the environment.

          • sunzu2
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            Nobody suggested Amy restrictions

            Me thesis is that vast majority of the users of these services are broke people who have no business using them but the conversation always devolves into some fringe cases needing them…

            It is a free market to waste your money as you see please but in current economic context, it is clowny to be whining about being broke and then using thee services.

            • @Two2Tango@lemmy.ca
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              22 months ago

              Who’s down voting this 😂 Big food delivery bots? Or are there really that many people who hate hearing the truth?

              • sunzu2
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                22 months ago

                Got a few people big mad about it too

                Clearly an unpopular opinion lol

                • @Two2Tango@lemmy.ca
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                  22 months ago

                  Anecdotally, the people I know who order door dash multiple times a week are also people who frequently complain about money

          • sunzu2
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            52 months ago

            I am suggesting viable substitution options which is the grocery store prepped food which also does delivery

            • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              in the same way taco bell is a substitute for mcdonalds.

              this is only a substitute if you assume the problem is poor people having treats, and not employees being fucked out of their pay. if you assume the problem is delivery staff being fucked out of their pay, the problem, and in many cases exact companies/staff, are the same.

              • sunzu2
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                42 months ago

                I am not even getting into how shiti these parasite treat the workers.

                Just merely notting that getting slop delivered by doordash is the most expensive option on the market, everyone is bitching about being poor then proceeda to defend using this trash service

                Which is also terriable for the worker on top of that

                • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  42 months ago

                  this isn’t about bitching about being poor, and being worn down to nothing and badgered and bullied by advertising until your will to resist wears out isn’t something you should blame the victim for. if you want to bitch at people about consuming beyond their means, yell at an ad-man.

  • @raynethackery@lemmy.world
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    112 months ago

    The funny thing is, when I first started working retail, we were encouraged to just say, “Oh, did you forget to complete your purchase?” We weren’t allowed to go straight to accusing someone of stealing. That gave them the opportunity to either pay for the items or leave them behind.

  • @DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    982 months ago

    I’m sure this global company only did it in NY for some reason though, better not look into this globally. Wouldn’t want to do that now!

    • lost_faith
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      72 months ago

      This is why, regardless of who delivers food the few times I order out, I always tip in cash (don’t have to claim it, company can’t steal it.)

        • lost_faith
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          32 months ago

          Canada here, I believe ours do as well, but easier to hide when in cash and company can’t steal it. I had heard of this when DD et. al. was relatively new and decided then cash was the way. It is up to the employee to do or not do

      • @facepainter@lemm.ee
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        22 months ago

        Despite living in a country where cash is practically non-existent (Netherlands), this is my reason for keeping a cash-jar.

  • Great Blue Heron
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    442 months ago

    They steal from everyone. My wife was stuck in a hotel with no room service about a year ago and didn’t feel up to walking for food. She found that she could get a free year doodash subscription through her Amazon Prime. She joined, got her food and promptly cancelled the subscription. We’ve just been through the joy of getting a refund for two months of doordash that hit our credit card.

  • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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    312 months ago

    I wonder if you could create an argument for this blatant disparity and how punishments are meted out to show how penalties for shoplifting and personal theft crimes are cruel and unusual. If stealing 17 million comes with less penalty than stealing 1700 then the penalties for 1700 are therefore unusual right?

    • Dr. Moose
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      12 months ago

      This is very likely to be the future of AI law once AI is good enough.

    • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      I suppose step 1 in that line of thinking is ending prison slavery and the systemic violence prisoners and guards inflict on the incarcerated.

      Not that we can’t do two things at once…

      • @Probius@sopuli.xyz
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        32 months ago

        Serial killers have to serve time added up from each individual murder. Corporate scumbags stealing from millions of people should be sentenced to prison for millions of years.

    • @MintyFresh@lemmy.world
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      32 months ago

      Lawyers are gonna get a huge chunk of that too. An already too low number gets diluted until it’s a joke. I’d be surprised if any individual driver gets more than$100. Fucking joke.

      I’d like to point out these people would be out of business tomorrow if we quit giving them our business.

  • @wokehobbit@lemm.ee
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    42 months ago

    Good for them. And you’re not employees. It’s gig work. If you’re living off dashing you’re the loser.

  • @Fixxelious@lemmy.world
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    332 months ago

    This whole tipping culture is reaaaallly hard trying to land here northern EU and I absolutely hate it, I refuse to tip anyone. Employers, pay your employees a living wage, it shouldnt be up to customers generosity. You cant? Then sounds like you should charge more of your customers, downsize your business until you can… or go out of business, since sounds like your profitable business is not actually profitable.

    • Echo Dot
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      122 months ago

      Of course there’s always the option of begging the government to bail you out, and then they do for some bizarre reason.

      We live in a capitalist society for individuals and socialist society for corporations, which feels the wrong way round.

    • @lobut@lemmy.ca
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      122 months ago

      What really annoys me is the American servers coming at the patrons: “if you can’t afford to tip, you shouldn’t eat out!”

      I would hate for that attitude to spread to the northern EU as well.

  • @whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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    652 months ago

    Few things.

    1. Corporations are not people. Laws need to change and loopholes need to be closed.
    2. The rich need to pay their way. Laws need to change and loopholes need to be closed.
      • @Aneb@lemm.ee
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        152 months ago

        🐷✂🗑 I had to get creative, my keyboard doesn’t have an guillotine emoji

        • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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          112 months ago

          Pig-scissors-thrash is kinda clear tbh.

          Luigi started. Who will take up the mantle?

      • @whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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        62 months ago

        All I can tell you is it has to get a lot worse before it gets better. I don’t see change coming without bloodshed because those in power and their enablers don’t want either of those things to happen.

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        We start by closing loopholes and making the rich pay their way.

        And if they don’t? Guillotines, baby!

        • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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          52 months ago

          I’m all for that, truly.

          How do we start?

          We’ve been talking about this online for as long as I remember, and my beard is starting to get grey hairs. To be honest, it’s been pumping up recently, but it’s still just unorganised discontent instead of an actual organised effort to do something. And those do exist, yeah, but they don’t rival the power of the large companies.

          So I’m starting to lose my optimism.

            • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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              12 months ago

              I think it’s easier for conservatives because they just attract morons and their aims aren’t creating a unified entity to do something, rather it’s to benefit personally.

              It’s way harder to create a peaceful global cooperative than it is to sow chaos and steal things.

              • @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                32 months ago

                Also i think it’s easier when you have the backing of the wealthy. i think the “tea party” had rich backers, for example, while ‘occupy wall street’ never had the same financial support.

                • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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                  12 months ago

                  I think with the internet, we could actually change this.

                  I think that if there was a unified community, a properly large one, one could use the economic power derived from the consumers to target specific things.

                  Wouldn’t need strikes. You’d just need an app to tell you what things not to buy for a week and what are the alternatives so you can still get your addiction on, whatever it may be (coffee, alcohol, dresses, chocolate, a specific type of heroin, who cares).

                  Like a global union, with the power that a full strike gives you, but without having to actually even strike.

  • @electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    652 months ago

    We have a legal system that protects the rich and punishes the poor. Luigi gave us a taste of what the opposite could look like.

    • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      192 months ago

      Should I DM the mod of this community and double check if it’s okay for me to upvote? Oh silly me… this is lemmy. Of course it’s okay to upvote this fact of life!

      • Echo Dot
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        72 months ago

        I’m assuming this is a reference to something that I’m going to say Reddit has done?

        • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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          62 months ago

          Reddit started sending out warning messages to people who upvote posts with the word “Luigi” in it and I believe you can now get full on banned for upvoting too many posts that say “Luigi”.