What is your line in the sand?

Edit: thank you all for your responses. I think it’s important as an American we take your view points seriously. I think of a North Korean living inside of North Korea. They don’t really know how bad it is because that is all hidden from them and they’ve never had anything else. As things get worse for Americans it’s important to have your voices because we will become more and more isolated.

Even the guy who said, “lol.” Some people need that sort of sobering reaction.

  • @[email protected]
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    155 months ago

    Absolutely not. A country where two parties are the only two viable electoral options, is absolutely not a democracy. Doesn’t mean I’ll stop my membership for the PSL.

  • @[email protected]
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    75 months ago

    I do. On my imaginary scale around 4 out of 10. So far the mess looks to me like it was voted in.

  • @[email protected]
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    A demo-crazy.

    Note that it is not democracy what Trumpeltier is destroying at the moment. It is the functioning of the state. This will take so many years to rebuild, if possible at all.

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    I consider it a faux democracy. It still has the semblance of one, with people voting, believing they matter and that they have actual free speech, but the masses are being, increasingly less subtly, controlled by media corporations and rendered incapable of critical, independent thinking by an ever decreasing quality of education.

    Don’t be fooled though! This isn’t happening in the US alone. It is widespread all over the globe. The US is simply doing it in a smarter, more cunning way, while leading the wealthy 1% in other countries by example.

  • FaceDeer
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    115 months ago

    Unfortunately, it’s still a democracy. The electorate wanted what’s now going on. That could rapidly change at this point, but for now not yet.

    • @[email protected]
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      75 months ago

      Democracy is a sliding scale and the US is still on it. Could the people choose something different without resorting to violent revolution and protest? Yes

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        Unfortunately yes. People wanted this. They still want this. But people were also cheering for like, Mao even after he put millions of his own citizens into the ground, so who knows

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        I’m a bit skeptical about this argument because autocratic states love to hold practically fake and forced elections with 90 or 99 % approval and use that as justification.

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          I think the possibly final test for American democracy will be the midterm elections in two years. By then, I think that either trump will have broken the system enough to get a sham election, or we’ll see real, verifiable push-back against him. International organisations that monitor elections will probably take part in shaping my opinion on whether the election is fair or not. I think it’s worth remembering that whenever countries hold “fake and forced elections” there are plenty of international observers that point out the major rigging going on.

  • DasFaultier
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    See, as a German, when I see a country go down the same route as the Weimar Republic after handing over the power to the Nazi party, I think it’s just very obvious. Hitler took some two months to completely destroy democracy, and the US are juuust in the middle of that. History doesn’t repeat, but sometimes it rhymes, and the similarities are just remarkable.

    So yeah, I guess that would be a big fat trench in the sand.

    • @[email protected]
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      105 months ago

      As a German also I agree with this statement. Ostensibly it is a democracy but in reality it’s not. And yes, there is a lot of rhyming going on

  • @[email protected]
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    75 months ago

    Serious answer : I am not living there, have no idea how to compare, nor whether the court system works as a safeguard.

    Troll answer In democracy you have the right to healthcare and education, so it’s been a while it isn’t

  • Sem
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    The answer depends of the reference point. I was born in Russia (I’m living abroad from 2022) and compared to the putin’s dictatorship US is a democracy. You guys still have a freedom of speech, not fake opposition to Trump and independent courts. From the other side, most of the countries are democracies if compared to Russia…

  • @[email protected]
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    A struggling democracy, in the beginning of an Orban/Hungary-like overtake of the country.

    Its possible to revert, but you seem to have atleast a 1/3 of the country that would walk down a straight up facist line willingly and happily do so.

    You need to fix your shit america.

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      There is not. He would have to be impeached by the senate, and then convicted by the majority of the Senate. Since the majority are currently his sycophants, it’s effectively not an option.

  • @[email protected]
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    Maybe a flawed democracy at best and it’s getting worse every day. At least on federal level, I don’t much about states politics. Not really an expert but democracy can’t really work that well if you are stuck in a two party system. Having more choice would sure help against populists and autocrats.