A pair of Long Island Trump voters visited Ireland recently. I think they were in their late 60s / early 70s. It looks like the current administration will be downsizing or disbanding the organisation their daughter works at and she’ll likely lose her job.

Some other changes made by this administration mean that several of their investments are losing value. So they’re very unhappy about him being in power now, although apparently the rape thing and being an overall creep was never an issue.

Anyway, Id’ read that people like this exist and never actually saw / heard them before. It’s real folks. They don’t seem particularly bright but it seems they’ve done well for themselves in life.

  • @[email protected]
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    224 days ago

    Not particularly bright but done well for themselves are A LOT of Trump voters.

    Makes me think some people really shouldn’t have money.

    • @[email protected]
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      124 days ago

      Worse than that; if you have flexible ethics, there are some easy ways to make money while being an idiot.

      My wife and I wondered if there was a way to fixup houses and sell them in a way that actually did quality work while netting a decent profit to be worth the time and effort. Our conclusion was that while you might be able to find an opportunity here or there, it would only be enough for occasional side income. If you wanted to make it a job and have piles of money, you almost have to cut all the corners to make it profitable at all. Shitty house flippers have flooded the supply, and it’s created a Market for Lemons situation where buyers have to assume it’s done badly and price it accordingly.

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    224 days ago

    They don’t seem particularly bright but it seems they’ve done well for themselves in life.

    This is such a dangerous combination. Success combined with stupidity seems to breed arrogant people that have never had a deep thought in their entire lives (nor do they believe they need to, given their success). Usually these types defer to some sort of homespun “common sense” no matter the topic at hand.

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    My gf and mom heard a russian couple in london watching a gay parade and hearing the parents explain to their children how those all should be sent to death camps. Except as online russians ever other word was a slur that would make even a 2000s cod lobby blush.

    You hear a lot of interesting things from tourists.

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    013 days ago

    You don’t have to be intelligent to get rich. You just have to lack empathy for your fellow humans. Yes these people exist and their lack of empathy guarantees they will never feel any responsibility for any harm they cause or support.

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    1425 days ago

    Keep in mind, 21% of all adult Americans are completely illiterate but still eligible to vote. 54% of adult Americans cannot read beyond a 6th grade level. These are people literally incapable of higher thought, but still given the right to vote and affect the lives of others.

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      525 days ago

      I’m guessing a long islander with enough money to travel to Europe wouldn’t fall into those categories.

      • FarraigePlaisteachOP
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        225 days ago

        Correct. These people were educated professionals. Specifically, one was an engineer.

        • Hanrahan
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          These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:

          Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.

          The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.

          A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

          Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.

          A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

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            221 days ago

            There are many types of intelligence, though. So when I hear someone dismiss another as simply “stupid”, I’m sceptical of them too.

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    They do life by the numbers, and if they have a solid start and a stable background they become very detached from the real world, floating in that middle class bubble. They hold opinions that were injected trough media as their own, and don’t question them. When the real world pops their bubble, they are very surprised and have to do intense mental gymnastics blaming it on a cat eating immigrants.

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    although apparently the rape thing and being an overall creep was never an issue.

    Well that is because the rape or creepiness didn’t happen directly to them or an immediate family member. There is no empathy with trump voters.

    • CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N
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      I’m no longer convinced even that is enough to sway this persistent ~35% we keep seeing in polling.

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        Well, they are “anti woke”

        Because you won’t remember the rape if you pretend to stay asleep?

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          425 days ago

          They kept telling people to wake up, so people did. Now they want them to go back to sleep so they can go back to doing their shitty things without being seen.

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    1725 days ago

    Moved my retirement fund from stocks to all cash yesterday. Orange doofus is going to cause even more issues for stock markets in the next few weeks.

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      2225 days ago

      Maybe or maybe not. Being long-term invested (>15 years) will solve this issue for you. Studies suggest you probably realized a loss and will also miss the entry point when stocks are going up again. Remember folks, time in the market beats timing the market.

        • CMLVI
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          625 days ago

          It definitely is isn’t is isn’t?

        • SolacefromSilence
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          If you went to cash, perhaps you should move to treasuries instead to get 4-5% return in the meantime?

          Otherwise, find mutual funds with exposure to euro markets to stay in the game. Time in the market will outperform timing the market. The market can remain irrational longer than you can afford to stuff cash under your mattress.

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            525 days ago

            My advice would be to become an arms dealer or to hire an expert hacker but all my financial know-how comes from 80s action films.

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    Generally the more monetarily successful people reach that point by being selfish, so it would make sense that they don’t care about others and only start to care when it affects them personally.

    People who are not selfish can become wealthy, it is just a lot less likely because they tend to spread the wealth.

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      925 days ago

      it is just a lot less likely because they tend to spread the wealth.

      It’s probably more like they don’t earn it in the first place because they aren’t as willing to fuck over coworkers et al. to get ahead.

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    4825 days ago

    If they live on Long Island they’ve seen the houses they brought for under $100,000 in 1980 balloon to over $1 million today.