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    I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.

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      But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.

      No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.

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        So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

        Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.

        Nuance my friend.

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          So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?

          Why are they still driving them, then?

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            Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.

            Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.

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              Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.

              So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.

              Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.

              But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially… No matter how evil the intention is.

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                I totally understand where yer coming from. And I hope that those who can decouple themselves from it, do so. But like hell I’m going to endorse harassing people without context. All that does is endorse extremism. Extreme acts can be condoned, but I sure hope you have a plan for afterwards. If not, you’ve just become what you are railing against.

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                  You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.

                  Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa’s swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?

                  We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That’s all the needed context.

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          Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.

          If it’s cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.

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            Must be rough bring a CT owner. First, your vehicle depreciates 50-100k, then it starts falling apart, and now everyone hates you for it.

            Still don’t feel bad for them though.

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          Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.

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          I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.

          Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.

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            Here’s a thought… Pre-vandalize it.

            Get some white paint that won’t damage your car, and write “Fuck Musk”, or “Swasticar” so it looks like it’s been keyed into your paint. Maybe grab a quality “cracked window” decal and slap it on the glass. Finally, take your bumper covers off.

            Then when (or if) this shit cools off, you can just wash the car, peel the decal and re-attach your bumper covers.

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              And then park it front of a Tesla sales center?

              I have a friend that does EV conversions of RAM Promaster vans. I wouldn’t mind using my car to do a conversion and then build it out for a class b camper van.

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            This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

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                And neither are you in the grand scheme. However what you are condoning will just radicalize the message and have it not resonate with those who’s help we will need in the future if this collapse actually comes about

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              It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm

              They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.

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                  So, the time has come that people need to ask themselves: Are they willing to be associated with a fascist, in any way? If they are ok with that, why?

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              It is directly hurting the person doing the actual harm. It’s not the vandals’ fault that he used innocents as his human shield.

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          Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.

          I’m sure you’d find a way to sell it then.

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        afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I’m not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.

        This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we’re just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.

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          afraid of what?

          Afraid of being associated with a fascist.

          This was funny for a minute.

          It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.

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          Most of the world is raping and pillaging lol most people are blank slates that do what they are told.

          Look at MAGA for proof and all the proof from other countries that are fucking MAGA, too.

          Look at the religions we made to try to put the fear of God into people to stop killing each other.

          Come the fuck on.

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        1. By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi. Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?

        2. Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.

        3. It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.

        Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.

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          By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi.

          Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?

          Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?

          Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?

          Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.

          Ok, we’re not talking about the past right now. We’re talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.

          It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.

          Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.

          Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.

          No, it’s principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.

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            So in other words, you’ll remain childish and reductive. That would have been much shorter than reading your drivel.

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              It’s far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie… adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.

              Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.

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                The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone “just sell your car and walk” or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.

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                  The right thing to do is often not easy.

                  Let me guess, you’d be OK with turning in a person hiding migrants, because it’s easier to do that?

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        To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don’t believe he had any idea. I don’t necessarily think he should have his car burned.

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          This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They’re out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.

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            Left: 2+2=4 Right: 2+2=5 Center: 2+2=4.5 (You: “Both sides have good things to offer!”)

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            This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right

            There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.

            Which side are you on?

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              This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can’t call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I’m not. Can’t be critical or you’re labeled a “them”

              There are flowers that smell pretty and there’s flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren’t really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?

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                So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?

                Or, what’s your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.

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                  I don’t really think in terms of fascism. It doesn’t seem like an accurate way to think here

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      Also, car dealerships are the backbone of local conservative party funding. They are the financial backbone of the fascist movement

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      I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.

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        Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.

        When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.

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          Flipping off people didn’t work, it got the left wing threats of being sent to an El Salvadorean prison. I don’t approve or disapprove of the Tesla vandals but you bet your ass it’s working. It’s sad that it works and I hate it.

          But here’s you with a Republican dick in your mouth: “Stop fighting guys, gargle”

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            This is a very typical ad hominem attack on someone’s political beliefs. Especially coming from someone who probably doesn’t think much farther past what they’re going to eat for the day, or how drunk they’re going to get on the weekend. I’m not going to insult you back because it’s very clear that yer a low information individual who’s more concerned with breaking stuff, rather than trying to repair and move on.

            Life long NDP voter btw. But I’m sure you’ll just scoff at this and continue to throw low IQ insults around.

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              I see, you’re in Canada. I’m an American. You don’t understand my fear. You only have to deal with tariffs, I mean that sucks but my government is literally turning fascist, you get to just buy Canadian and move on. You don’t and can’t know what that’s like… Don’t try unless you plan to sympathize.

              Well at least I’m glad you don’t understand my fear. If you did you’d be in our position.

              Also nice job not insulting me, I counted 3 but it’s ok I think you’re angry. I’m angry too. Don’t be angry at me though. Be angry at the bully, not the victim.

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                  Me: <a reasonable argument followed by empathy>

                  You: Twat!

                  Lol. It’s fine, I give you permission to keep your anger at all Americans. It’s actually probably better that way, we deserve it.

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          Nothing lost then, same status as dealership. Only slightly more inconvenienced since its their car but even then they get a rental from insurance company.

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            So the same goes if the Tesla is carrying a family in it and some fella goes and brake checks it? Or runs it off the road?

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                Okay cool. Cause that where this is headed. I’ve seen I videos of it. I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time until some fuckstick that thinks he’s helping the cause and goes too far.

                This is the point I’m trying to make.

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    Not all that surprising that Canadians are especially pissed off. Didn’t he say Canada isn’t a real country and then he deleted the Tweet afterwards? Yes he did…

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        The entire point of the “blame Canada” joke is that it’s making fun of people who tried to blame their own problems on something that had nothing to do with the underlying cause for those problems.

        In the song Kenny’s parents literally say “should we blame the matches, or should we blame the fire, or the doctors who allowed him to expire? no blame Canada!”

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          The final verse really drives the nail home just in case anyone in the audience somehow didn’t get it:

          Blame Canada
          Shame on Canada
          For the smut we must stop, the trash we must smash
          The laughter and fun must all be undone
          We must blame them and cause a fuss
          Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

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      Wow. He actually deleted a Tweet? He usually stands by all the stupid shit he’s said, proudly at that.

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      Of course he would have deleted it, so nice capture! And thanks for sharing. What a loser manchild -Elon

    • AizawaC47
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      We need anonymous to dismantle Twitter and plummet it all so it can be amongst all the other apps that went to the grave.

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        If the bots and toxicity haven’t killed it, I don’t know what we could even do at this point.

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    Aura Carreño Rosas is a Hamilton-based reporter from Venezuela, with a passion for pop culture and unique people with diverse journeys.

    What??? A Venezuelan who hasn’t been rounded up, deported and slung into in a third world concentration camp without even the pretense of due process?!?

    Come on Canadia, is that really the kind of country you want to live in???

    /s

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    The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

    That’s it? Y’all Canadians are so polite.

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    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

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      I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.

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        Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.

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        It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.

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          Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.

      -The Tesla board, probably

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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

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      Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.

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      Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk.

      They could have done this a LONG time ago… now the damage is done. Nobody would care he is no longer CEO (although that may help Tesla develop better cars), people are not going to want to drive a Swasticar anyway nor give money to a literal Nazi

      Short of selling all his stock and completely disappearing from the public eye, Musk completely destroyed Tesla. There are simply better options that do not include helping/associating with a Nazi

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder

      If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.

      They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

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        The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.

        Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.

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        1. Large shareholders can’t just sell. There are rules to prevent stock manipulation
        2. He’d be the first victim of tanking the stock. Not in his best interest
        3. He can’t sell any shares used for collateral
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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

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        He would need to get rid of his stock before I even consider buying from any of his companies’ products.

        Not getting starlink for my van. I guess I’ll have to stick close to cell towers on work days.

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      The board is filled with family and close friends. They’ll protect him as long as possible.

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    Dumb ass American here. Does Canada’s prime minister or some other official have the same kind of pardon power our president does? Because they could do something pretty cool right now.

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    Awe shucks. I could not stoop to vandalism and destruction of the shitty neo-Nazi BEVs. I would prefer the vehicles to be unsold and collect dust until Tesla enters bankruptcy. Tesla, himself, must have flipped in his grave several times.

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    I am of the opinion that no one should be vandalizing property that they don’t own themselves. Protest, sure (following whatever laws Canada has in place for that), don’t buy a Tesla, sure, encourage everyone you’ve ever met not to buy one, fine, but please respect the right of people who don’t want their stuff vandalized.

    Also, while dealerships have insurance, doing this just makes the insurance go up for everyone. But that’s not my point. People shouldn’t vandalize the property of others because they really, really, really x5, don’t like Elon.

    I’m not an Elon or Trump apologist, I’m just someone fighting on the side of civilized behavior.